Golden-Cross Trading-Idea

hi @Mcxtrader

many members have reported display issue similar to yours.

here is an old post which can help you solve your display issue.

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...5#post11271775


also this YouTube video also explains this MT4 issue with newer monitors.



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hi @harshil1

Further to my post above, I have sometime after my yearend holidays and getting back to my usual home routine and preparing for the next week' market open and trading again.

Just completed another back-testing with moving averages Golden_Cross signals and setups. Just follow simple rules for entries and exits. Use strict Money Management Risk Control and Risk-to-Reward.

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@ENoris

As a new trader and beginner as you mentioned in your post above, trading success cannot be measured by the 10,000 hours and the number of trades.
Trading Mastery is about Deep Practice to acquire the necessary skills to become a trader. It will then leads to Deliberate Practice which will determine if the trader can achieve the results in achieving the financial goals over a given period of time. It is about achieving Financial Freedom in one's life.

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@Emmanuel,

I love to write, especially when I free (write something that can help others).

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective and experience.

My intention with the post was specifically to help new members starting in 2026 set realistic and achievable goals at the beginning of their trading journey. I wanted to encourage them to focus on learning the process and building consistency, rather than feeling overwhelmed by long term targets too early.
This post was not intended for SUPER TRADERS, who have already achieved the mastery.

Just to clarify again, I am NOT A FULL TIME TRADER , I AM NOT A CODER / PROGRAMMER, AND I DO NOT TRADE FOR A LIVING, which may not be the case for many participants in this thread / forum. I do not have financial pressure or stress to trade, and I am fortunate that I can continue living comfortably for many years without relying on trading income. This allows me to approach trading with patience and without emotional pressure.

From my 10 months of learnng experience so far, asking a new trader to think in terms of 1,000 trades over 3 to 5 years can feel discouraging. In contrast, setting an initial realistic goal of 10 or 20 trades helps a beginner focus on understanding the method, following the rules, managing risk, and journaling, rather than judging success or failure too early.

One need to execute batches of 10/20 in order to reach 1000 trades. I request every new member to search for 10 Trade Challenge thread by another respectable member @TooSlow. (George has made selfless and valuable contribution to his thread also)

The biggest challenge I see for new traders is not the lack of strategies, but the difficulty in sticking with one method long enough to truly understand it. Whether it is Golden Cross by SwingMan, Trading Made Simple by Big E (enhanced/ automated by Emmaneul7788), Trading Made Simple ( r ) by Robinhood or any other structured approach, any method can work if the trader remains committed, disciplined, and consistent.

I have a lot of respect for your knowledge and experience, and you are clearly far ahead of most of us in terms of trading skill and understanding. My goal was not to define what trading success should look like for everyone, but simply to offer encouragement and a practical starting mindset for those just beginning.

Thank you again for contributing to the discussion.
Hope that 2026 brings you and all the other participants loads of PIP$

@ENoris

First, as a new trader and beginner, you need to help yourself and fall into the trap of most retail traders.

Download this pdf and know the pitfalls of retail traders.



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Thank you very much. Issue resolved.

Hi All,

On the weekly timeframe, the color of the oscillator and the slope indicator are not changing in alignment. Is this a bug? Could someone please confirm?

Hello Everyone,

I have noticed that some new members are finding it difficult to locate all the required indicators and templates. A few members have also sent me private messages requesting them. Some members are also not using the indictators and taking full advantage of them

To make things easier and to ensure everyone is on the same page, I have attached all the latest indicators , I have also uploaded ny latest template once again.

Installation steps:

1. Copy the indicators into the Indicators folder
2. Copy the template into the Templates folder
3. Restart MT4
4. Load the template — and you are ready to go

I have also attached few charts, look at the charts and study them.

Please start with demo trading to understand the system and build confidence. Do not feel pressured to think in terms of 1,000 trades. The goal at the beginning is learning, not perfection.

Start small and build gradually. Set yourself a small challenge, such as taking 10 demo trades without deviating from the rules , no changing templates, no adding or removing indicators. This helps build discipline and familiarity with the method.

I am not an expert, whatever I have learrned, I have learned from this thread, reading and practice. My intention is simply to help others and to support keeping this thread moving in the RIGHT DIRECTION (what is the right direction for me i.e focus on quality information rather than being flooded with unnecessary posts).
When I started following this thread, it had around 23 pages. It has now grown to about 50 pages. As it continues to grow, I strongly encourage new members to focus primarily on the posts by George (SwingMan), as everything needed to understand the Golden Cross method is provided & clearly explained there.
I also request George, (time permitted, please do a cleanup of this thread and remove posts that are not related to this thread / topic)

Please remember, you cannot become skilled until you start. Start small, keep risk small, repeat the process, learn from mistakes, and try to avoid repeating them.

This is not rocket science. The simpler you keep it, the easier and faster it becomes to move toward your goals. Keep refining yourself along the way.

Best of luck to everyone and wishing everyone loads of PIP$

Why Higher Timeframes (H1/H4/D1) Work Better than Lower Time Frames M1/M5

Trading the Golden Cross Method (or even any other Method) on higher timeframes like H1/H4/D1 is generally much easier than trying to trade it on lower time frames M1/M5.

Most traders assume this is because:

1. You have more time to make decisions
2. Signals look cleaner
3. Price structure makes more sense

In my view all the above are true, the real reason is simplicity and consistency.

The Golden Cross method shared by George (SwingMan) is rule based and price focused. It was never meant to be traded by staring at the screen all day or reacting to every small move. It works best when price is allowed to unfold and the trader steps in only when conditions are clearly met. This is also one of the reason that George has emphasized numerous times in his thread to use STOP ORDERS instead of Market execution.

On Higher Time Frames, one only need to spend a few minutes checking the chart:

1. Alerts generated by indictaor smGoldenCross Signal 8.3 and entry parameters displayed on the top right of the chart helps a lot.
2. Is price behaving properly around the moving averages?
3. Do I need to enter, manage, or simply do nothing?

Once that decision is made, there’s no real benefit in watching every tick, just put the stop order and move away from the screen.

Lower timeframes like M1 or M5 are a different story. Price is constantly crossing and recrossing the averages. That creates noise, false signals, and emotional pressure. For most traders, this leads to over thinking, early exits, late entries, or changing rules on the fly, all things that go against the Golden Cross approach.
George (SwingMan) has always been clear key ideas since he shared his version of Golden Crosss Idea in this thread.
Higher timeframes support this naturally. You make fewer decisions, you’re less emotionally involved, and it becomes much easier to execute the same setup the same way, over and over again.


For most traders, especially new traders the hardest part isn’t finding a strategy, it’s trading one strategy consistently. Higher timeframes help with that by reducing screen time and keeping the focus on process instead of constant action.

That’s why, especially for beginners and developing traders (also thiose who lack screen time) , H1/H4/D1 (Higher time frames) are a better place to learn and apply the Golden Cross Method. Lower timeframes can come later, once consistency and discipline are already in place (Depending on the screen time availability)

Golden Cross Method isn’t about speed. Its's about clarity, patience, and disciplined execution.

XAGUSD chart below

Wishing everyone loads of PIP$

Thanks Enoris for your contributions to this topic. I would like to ask you if you would also got into a long trade around '30 Dec 01.00', as then there was also a long signal when upgoing trend. Or could you tell from your printscreen a big difference between that time and the time you entered the trade?

Hello @jakehh, I will try to explain.

I didn’t take that trade mainly because I was away at the time, but even looking back at the chart, it wasn’t a setup I would normally take.

I am long on Silver since 43 levels in my prop firm accounts.

I usually enter using H4, based on alerts, and I prefer price to be clearly above both the middle (average) 5 LWMA and the middle (average) 30 LWMA.
On 30-12-2025 around 01:00, the 5 LWMA was pointing downward and below to 30 LWMA.
If you compare that with the move on 05-01-2026, you’ll notice a a slight difference:

1. The slope of the 5 LWMA is UPWARD (on 30-12-2025 its sloping downward and on 05-01-2026 its still not above 30 but sloping upward)
2. The 30 LWMA is also angled and supporting the move
3. Price above the 5/30 zone

That separation and slope make a big difference.

One general rule that helps me filter a lot of false signals is this:

1. When price is above both the 5 and 30 LWMA, I look for longs, opposite for shorts.
2. When price is inside the 5/30 zone, I try to avoid and treat it as as a no trade zone

You will miss some trades that go on to be profitable, but over time this approach filters out many weak or choppy setups and keeps you aligned with the higher timeframe direction.

I like to think of it like swimming with the flow of the water. When the current is clearly moving in one direction, it’s much easier to go with it. Swimming against the current is possible, experienced swimmers can do it, but it requires more skill, effort, and risk. I don’t consider myself an expert, so I prefer to trade in the direction where the “flow” is obvious.

The best Golden Cross setups (for me) are when:

1. Price is above the 5/30
2. Price retraces toward the 5 LWMA
3. A continuation signal then appears (Alerted by the smGolden Cross Signals v8.3)

One extra point that may help to you
On H4, the 30 LWMA roughly aligns with the 5 LWMA on D1, so this helps keep trades in sync with the higher timeframe trend. That is the reason George has also emphasized to plot middle 30LWMA line on the chart.

Hope this helps.

Hi,
Well, now things get seriously complicated. Moving averages, discretionary analysis, price level, ... etc...
Automatable?
I don't think so
Cheers

Dear @le_celte, thanks for your continued interest and your valuable commens

I understand where you’re coming from. From the outside, it can look discretionary.

Just to clarify, I’m not a coder or programmer myself. That said, the Golden Cross method itself is rule based, and much of it has already been structured and coded by George (SwingMan) since 2023 through the indicators he has shared and refined over time.

For example:

1. smGoldenCross Signals (v8.3) already generates alerts (BUY STOP / SELL STOP)
2. The 30 LWMA on H4 effectively represents the higher-timeframe (D1) 5 LWMA trend context.
3. Alerts can be screened mechanically, such as only taking signals where price is clearly above (or below) both the 5 and 30 LWMA
4. Slope of both MAs can be checked and taken into account. (already George has shared smGoldenCross Slope indictaor)
   With my very limited knowledge and with the help of AI, I coded a slope dashboard, which can also be used to trade in the direction of teh higher time frames. (I have shared the code with George)

From there, automation is largely a matter of implementation choice, such as:

1. Placing pending stop orders on alerts
2. Cancelling orders if not triggered by the close of the alert candle, after a fixed number of candles or after certain fixed duration etc
3. Applying predefined risk and trade management rules

Whether someone chooses to automate fully, semi automate, or trade manually is a personal decision. Some prefer full automation, others prefer a small layer of discretion around a structured framework. The key point is that Golden Cross is not random or subjective by design. It can be expressed as rules, and parts of it already are.

I have just gone through the thread in chronological order and found several posts where George mentions the EA in his replies to other members. In a few of the charts he shared, it’s clear that he has been working on it.

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...6#post14434346
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...1#post14434661
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/post/14504063#post14504063
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...8#post14504488
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/post/14505545#post14505545 (EA was shared with few members)
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...0#post14505590
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...7#post14511877
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...7#post14603287 (EA Rules)
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...1#post14606871 (EA source Code Request)
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...0#post15296720
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/post/15439048#post15439048
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...7#post15439057 (Exit Rules)
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...4#post15439254 (EA under development)

EA Screenshot 1 October 20,2025
EA Screenshot 2 October 20,2025

I am hopeful that, time and health permitting, this will eventually be released, as George has already selflessly coded and shared many indicators for the Forex Factory community over the years. Many of those tools have been downloaded extensively, often without feedback or recognition, which reflects his generosity rather than any need for acknowledgment.

Thanks

Many thanks to ENoris for the invaluable insights. I am currently exploring this approach, which has been immensely beneficial to my trading journey. Your guidance and advice are of great importance to us.

Once again, special thanks to George for his dedication, guidance, and generous sharing of his experience.

Thank you for the kind words.

Any value in my posts comes directly from what George (SwingMan) has shared in this thread. Full credit will always goes to him.

I strongly believe in Kaizen (continuous improvement). None of us start perfect. We improve by learning, applying, reviewing, and refining step by step.
I learn from every one and try to take the positives.

If you look at the chart below (from mid December 2025 onward), I’ve marked a few simple levels that clearly show the power of higher timeframes. The structure, direction, and flow are much easier to read, and that makes execution simpler and more consistent.

Beginners should focus of trend trading (trading in the direction of the Higher time frame) in the begining, as opposed to counter trend trading.

smGoldenCross Trend_v2.2 is a wonderful tool that can help and make things easier in the start (Top Left on the chart)


Everything needed to begin has already been shared in this thread. There is more than enough information, logic, and tools to get started. What matters next is starting the journey. If you don’t start, you can’t reach the destination.

For those starting new:

1. Practice on demo first to familiarize yourself with the indicators
2. Start small
3. Don’t overtrade
4. Make a plan and trade your plan
5. Stay consistent and give yourself time

The tools will feel unfamiliar at first, that’s normal. Confidence comes from repetition and correct execution.

Higher timeframes are powerful. They reduce noise, reduce emotional pressure, and help you stay aligned with the bigger picture.

Many respected members in this wonderful community in different threads freely share their knowledge, and the gentleman who started this thread has done so selflessly.

We all, myself included, need to remember that

KNOWLEDGE IS OF NO VALUE UNLESS IT IS PUT INTO PRACTICE.

Best of luck to all and wishing every one loads of PIP$

The initial trade has commenced favourably and is currently being monitored. This trading system is truly excellent!

Hello Everyone,

I have observed that, for my own trading style (with limited screen time due to my poor health, aging eyes and work commitments) indices and commodities (especially metals) have worked better for me than currency pairs. This is simply my experience, and my view may differ from others.

Similar to XAGUSD, I am also long on XPTUSD from around 1600 (chart below)

Over time, one thing that has helped me is treating trading as a business, not as a series of emotional decisions.

When you approach trading like a business, every trade becomes just another transaction. Like any business, there is a cost of doing business and a predefined cost per transaction. You may start with a capital of "X" and decide that each trade will risk "X%". Once that is defined, the cost is already accepted. From that point on, the focus shifts away from individual trade outcomes and toward execution.

Just like in business, some days are good and some days are bad. A business owner does not judge success or failure after every single transaction. Instead, performance is evaluated after certain time period. (Monthly, Quarterly, Half yearly, Annually)

Trading works the same way. Focus on execution, not perfection. Execute X number of trades exactly according to your plan, and only then evaluate the results.
Define your risk before the trade. Each trade you execute must have two pre defined exits (SL your risk and the TP your profit)

If the results are not what you expected, avoid changing everything at once (Shiny Object Syndrome). Adjust one variable at a time, test again, and review. This is where journaling plays a key role, helping turn experience into learning.

Over time, small improvements and disciplined execution begin to compound. Consistency, patience, and controlled risk do the heavy lifting.
This approach and the Golden Cross Method has helped me stay focused on process rather than short term outcomes, and I’m sharing it in case it helps others on their own journey of FIRE.
Wishing every one loads of PIP$.

Hi ENoris,

Long time ago I have come to similar decision to trade only a few instruments, indeed I almost exclusively trade DOW with some trades in Gold.

Likewise your emphasis on keeping a journal is spot on. It is import to keep journal and it is a good option on forums like this one to keep one.

I am pleased that Swingman has developed a profitable strategy, I do remember him well, as over the years he has been very kind and a diligent researcher of the market's behaviour.
I wish you a great success, use the best tools (fast computers, large high-resolution monitors and study good stuff and good books)
Have a nice weekend!
2be

Thank you for your kind words and thoughtful reply.

It means a lot to see experienced and long standing members like yourself (since 2007), along with others such as Forex37 (since 2006), Emmanuel7788 (since 2008), le celte (since 2012), and many more, visiting and participating in SwingMan’s thread. For newer traders like myself, this kind of presence alone adds tremendous value.

I sincerely hope that experienced members continue to share insights SPECIFICALLY RELATED to the GOLDEN CROSS METHOD, as this helps keep the thread focused, structured, and genuinely useful for those who want to understand and apply George’s work properly.

Above all, credit goes to George (SwingMan) for sharing his ideas, logic, and tools so generously over the years. His work provides more than enough structure for traders to learn, practice, and build confidence.

My wish is simply that this thread stays on the right track, so that anyone interested in the Golden Cross method by George (SwingMan) can find clear explanations, examples, and guidance by reading the thread itself, without requesting for indicators, templates and need for repeated questions.

As you mentioned, journaling, focus, and simplicity go a long way. And of course, this is a free forum, everyone who contributes here does so selflessly, sharing time and experience without expectation. That spirit is what makes threads like this valuable over the long run.

If circumstances permit (time and health), and George himself were to automate and release an EA or develop a dashboard for certain aspects of the method, it
would greatly help many traders apply the rules more consistently. While automation can be attempted by others, having George lead this effort would make it far more accurate and aligned with the original intent, as he is the creator of the Golden Cross method and understands its logic better than anyone else. That said, even in its current discretionary form, the foundation of the method is already very strong and complete.

Thank you again for your encouraging words.

Wishing you and everyone loads of PIP$.

New Dashboard "GC Slope Trend Dashboard v3.2"

Thanks to @ENoris for the recent posts; they are very helpful for everyone.

Here I'm posting a dashboard that ENoris programmed very well using AI.
I've only made a few changes and, as always, I've found that the AI still has a lot to learn in order to write reliable programs...
The dashboard isn't finished yet, and I'll be making a few more changes and adding further explanations.

Attention

- Write your own symbol list

- Note that with my broker, the symbols have a suffix ".r".
If you don't have this, please delete it in the parameter inputs.

- I'm also posting a standard template (GoldenCross Template).
You can enter your own template, because they probably have different folders for the indicators than I do.

- The dashboard has the nice feature that when you click on a symbol, a chart is drawn with the symbol and TF=H4.
Clicking on a cell displays a chart with the symbol from the row and the timeframe from the column.

- The circles indicate the trend direction, the arrows the current crossover, and the numbers the distance to the last crossover.