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  • #401
  • Dec 7, 2006 6:40am Dec 7, 2006 6:40am
Flyer executed a gbpud long at 1.9686. Why didn't it exit when the magenta and yellow crossed and/or why did it not reverse positons when the white MAs crossed back over the red MAs. See the attached pic. Thanks.
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  • #402
  • Dec 7, 2006 7:14am Dec 7, 2006 7:14am
Quoting BenQ
Flyer executed a gbpud long at 1.9686. Why didn't it exit when the magenta and yellow crossed and/or why did it not reverse positons when the white MAs crossed back over the red MAs. See the attached pic. Thanks.
Not sure what you are using for your settings, but mine did exactly what you talked about. It went long at 1.9682, exited at 1.9684 after the fall back down, and now has gone short at 1.9664.

However, you will have to remember that the EA also tries to determine the trend of the market and even if the the MA's cross the tunnel, it may not execute a buy if that direction is counter-trend.

But, given the fact that we didn't have same executions, I imagine your broker feed created enough of a difference that it didn't do everything mine did or you have different settings.

GF
  • #403
  • Dec 7, 2006 7:16am Dec 7, 2006 7:16am
RESULTS

05:02 gmt, Flyer! opened long at 1.9687. Overnight, it was as high as 9711, then fell back. Today, just after the BOE rate announcement, Flyer! opened short at 9664. So although it moved 20-odd pips in profit overnight, it didn't preserve any profit by exiting at 9689 for example, as it moved south.

Currently, I'm still in my original long position; float is -$1,200.00.
  • #404
  • Dec 7, 2006 7:23am Dec 7, 2006 7:23am
Quoting MoneyMa$ter
RESULTS

05:02 gmt, Flyer! opened long at 1.9687. Overnight, it was as high as 9711, then fell back. Today, just after the BOE rate announcement, Flyer! opened short at 9664. So although it moved 20-odd pips in profit, it didn't preserve any profit as it moved south.

Currently, I'm still in my original long position; float is -$1,200.00.
MM, the profit has to exceed about 28 pips before it will preserve any kind of profit. Interesting enough, mine entered at 1.9682 and the price topped out at 1.9711 on my charts, which was 29 points. Thus when the price came down it got out at 1.9684 with 2 pips profit.

I had to put some kind of a value on this part of the EA and 28 pips came out to be about right because anything less and it was always jumping out early, too much more and profits turned to losing positions. Again, its a balancing act.

Marci
  • #405
  • Dec 7, 2006 7:41am Dec 7, 2006 7:41am
Quoting GirlFlyer
MM, the profit has to exceed about 28 pips before it will preserve any kind of profit. Interesting enough, mine entered at 1.9682 and the price topped out at 1.9711 on my charts, which was 29 points. Thus when the price came down it got out at 1.9684 with 2 pips profit.
Marci
Marci,

Does the "gapsize" parameter make a difference? I increased mine to 15. Are you using zero?
  • #406
  • Dec 7, 2006 7:45am Dec 7, 2006 7:45am
Quoting MoneyMa$ter
Marci,

Does the "gapsize" parameter make a difference? I increased mine to 15. Are you using zero?
Gapsize is controlled by GapArray in your arrays... Gapsize will be overwritten by what ever you have in your array.

Marci
  • #407
  • Dec 7, 2006 7:53am Dec 7, 2006 7:53am
These are the settings I'm using. Flyer finally did go short, but it never exited the long. It's now in both positions. Here's also a pic of what it did. Seems like the short entry is a couple bars late. Any help is appreciated.

LotPercentage=5.00000000
MinVal=1000.00000000
StopLossVal=58
TimePeriod=30
UseTS=0
TrailingStopLevel=75
BrokerMinLotSize=0.10000000
FixedLots=1
MyLotSize=0.10000000
LotValue=1
MarginVal=100
LimitHours=0
StartHours=21
StartMins=0
EndHours=7
EndMins=0




Quoting GirlFlyer
Not sure what you are using for your settings, but mine did exactly what you talked about. It went long at 1.9682, exited at 1.9684 after the fall back down, and now has gone short at 1.9664.

However, you will have to remember that the EA also tries to determine the trend of the market and even if the the MA's cross the tunnel, it may not execute a buy if that direction is counter-trend.

But, given the fact that we didn't have same executions, I imagine your broker feed created enough of a difference that it didn't do everything mine did or you have different settings.

GF
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  • #408
  • Dec 7, 2006 7:56am Dec 7, 2006 7:56am
Quoting BenQ
These are the settings I'm using. Flyer finally did go short, but it never exited the long. It's now in both positions.

LotPercentage=5.00000000
MinVal=1000.00000000
StopLossVal=58
TimePeriod=30
UseTS=0
TrailingStopLevel=75
BrokerMinLotSize=0.10000000
FixedLots=1
MyLotSize=0.10000000
LotValue=1
MarginVal=100
LimitHours=0
StartHours=21
StartMins=0
EndHours=7
EndMins=0
These settings look fine, as long as you have kept the settings in the Arrays as I gave, everything is as it should be. Only difference is probably the broker. I'm using IBFX. Your chart I believe showed somebody else?...

Also, since your position didn't reach the 28 point threshold of profit, either, the MA's going back down crossed too late for the EA to catch any profit. Mine only got out with 2 pips profit because my position hit the 28 point level.

Marci
  • #409
  • Dec 7, 2006 7:58am Dec 7, 2006 7:58am
I haven't touched the arrays at all. Shouldn't the first position have exited?

Quoting GirlFlyer
These settings look fine, as long as you have kept the settings in the Arrays as I gave, everything is as it should be. Only difference is probably the broker. I'm using IBFX. Your chart I believe showed somebody else?...


Also, since your position didn't reach the 28 point threshold of profit, either, the MA's going back down crossed too late for the EA to catch any profit. Mine only got out with 2 pips profit because my position hit the 28 point level.

Marci
  • #410
  • Dec 7, 2006 8:03am Dec 7, 2006 8:03am
Quoting GirlFlyer
I think I have figured out the problem... I will try to post you a correction later today...

Marci
Thanks, Marci, for you help. I have installed the new code and will let you know if it is successful.

Thanks,

dbcmkx
  • #411
  • Dec 7, 2006 8:07am Dec 7, 2006 8:07am
Quoting GirlFlyer
Not sure what you are using for your settings, but mine did exactly what you talked about. It went long at 1.9682, exited at 1.9684 after the fall back down, and now has gone short at 1.9664.

However, you will have to remember that the EA also tries to determine the trend of the market and even if the the MA's cross the tunnel, it may not execute a buy if that direction is counter-trend.

But, given the fact that we didn't have same executions, I imagine your broker feed created enough of a difference that it didn't do everything mine did or you have different settings.

GF
Marci,

Mine went long at 1.9679, didn't sell at the correction, then stopped out at 1.9632 with the news. Is it my settings, maybe?

Thanks, Dan
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  • #412
  • Dec 7, 2006 8:22am Dec 7, 2006 8:22am
Quoting Gids
Marci,

Mine went long at 1.9679, didn't sell at the correction, then stopped out at 1.9632 with the news. Is it my settings, maybe?

Thanks, Dan
Gids, BenQ,

Flyer did exactly what it was programmed to do in this case. Unfortunately, it was a case that left it in a losing position even after being up some. I know you say, "I could have cashed that 20 points out.."

But an EA can't say that necessarily... On small profit margins, like this one, if the price reverses too quickly, it won't be able to get out soon enough to take a profit. As I said to MM, there is a 28 point buffer zone from the entry price to the highest profit level. If it never exceeds that level, it may or may not exit at a profit depending on how the signals go.

Besides the crossing of the MA and MA3 lines, the slope of the tunnel EMA's also has to be flat or opposite trending as well for the general exit condition to succeed.

I wish I could explain all this a little clearer, but the exit/entries for the EA are pretty complicated to explain.

But, suffice to say, it did what it was supposed to do. The EA can't be perfect in every situation... there are a zillion possibilties, I can't program them all.

GF
  • #413
  • Dec 7, 2006 8:31am Dec 7, 2006 8:31am
Ok. I didn't care about cashing in that 20 points. I'm in for the bigger moves. I was just concered that it did not close the long position when it opened the second short and thought there might be an error there. And also that the short seemed to be a late entry. The long has since stopped out. I'll keep watching. Thx.

Quoting GirlFlyer
Gids, BenQ,


Flyer did exactly what it was programmed to do in this case. Unfortunately, it was a case that left it in a losing position even after being up some. I know you say, "I could have cashed that 20 points out.."

But an EA can't say that necessarily... On small profit margins, like this one, if the price reverses too quickly, it won't be able to get out soon enough to take a profit. As I said to MM, there is a 28 point buffer zone from the entry price to the highest profit level. If it never exceeds that level, it may or may not exit at a profit depending on how the signals go.

Besides the crossing of the MA and MA3 lines, the slope of the tunnel EMA's also has to be flat or opposite trending as well for the general exit condition to succeed.

I wish I could explain all this a little clearer, but the exit/entries for the EA are pretty complicated to explain.

But, suffice to say, it did what it was supposed to do. The EA can't be perfect in every situation... there are a zillion possibilties, I can't program them all.

GF
  • #414
  • Dec 7, 2006 9:14am Dec 7, 2006 9:14am
Quoting BenQ
Ok. I didn't care about cashing in that 20 points. I'm in for the bigger moves. I was just concered that it did not close the long position when it opened the second short and thought there might be an error there. And also that the short seemed to be a late entry. The long has since stopped out. I'll keep watching. Thx.
My thoughts exactly. I understand the long term notion of this EA. When you mentioned how yours had closed the long, then created a short, I thought mine was reacting differently somehow. I have had it up and running for a couple of days and thought it would see the same, or similar setups.

Thanks again, Dan
  • #415
  • Dec 7, 2006 9:39am Dec 7, 2006 9:39am
Quoting Gids
My thoughts exactly. I understand the long term notion of this EA. When you mentioned how yours had closed the long, then created a short, I thought mine was reacting differently somehow. I have had it up and running for a couple of days and thought it would see the same, or similar setups.

Thanks again, Dan
No problem guys.

This seems to be a good example of the difference between brokers, too.

GF
  • #416
  • Dec 7, 2006 9:48am Dec 7, 2006 9:48am
Hm,

same here... Flyer opened long yesterday, since when I moved stop few pip lower (below support level). On the chart it was still saying "Open Orders Exists" but at night it opened short, without closing previous long.
In the code I see if statement that should've prevented this, but not sure why it didn't happen.
I'll dig into it little more, and will see if there is some bug...
  • #417
  • Dec 7, 2006 9:57am Dec 7, 2006 9:57am
Quoting orkan84
Hm,

same here... Flyer opened long yesterday, since when I moved stop few pip lower (below support level). On the chart it was still saying "Open Orders Exists" but at night it opened short, without closing previous long.
In the code I see if statement that should've prevented this, but not sure why it didn't happen.
I'll dig into it little more, and will see if there is some bug...
No bugs, it is allowed to be both long and short at the same time

GF
  • #418
  • Dec 7, 2006 12:11pm Dec 7, 2006 12:11pm
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No bugs, it is allowed to be both long and short at the same time

GF

Oh, that makes sence then. That if statement was to check if we have open position in given direction... So there can be 2 simultaneous positions, but in different directions, not the same one. Right?
  • #419
  • Dec 7, 2006 12:46pm Dec 7, 2006 12:46pm
I set up flyer two days ago and it has yet to open a trade. So you know I am not lazy, I have read the entire thread and see no reason that a trade has not been opened. I did select allow live trade and the EA is turned on. I would be grateful for your help.


Thanks
  • #420
  • Dec 7, 2006 1:03pm Dec 7, 2006 1:03pm
What about MinVal variable?
What it is set to? Is your account balance bigger than MinVal?
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