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  • #2,821
  • Nov 25, 2025 2:12am Nov 25, 2025 2:12am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} 1h OB and 4H EF with fvg? 50% didnt not meet
confluence at discount of ny-asia range.
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  • #2,822
  • Nov 25, 2025 2:26am Nov 25, 2025 2:26am
result
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  • #2,823
  • Nov 25, 2025 12:33pm Nov 25, 2025 12:33pm
Hi ITB and all,

I am new to ff however traded for over 1 year previously and made a bit of money from crypto. I came away from trading for several years and back the last 4-5 months and enjoying my journey. Found waiting at riverband about 2 weeks ago and love the setup have also been delving into engulfing zones this past week as well.

f**ked up my account yesterday by risking way too much to make back a loss. Wanted to share that.

also been a bit lost over whether to focus on engulfing or riverband or the both….? I know you need to know HTF direction for riverband but still feeling a bit lost. I am currently reading through the threads from beginning to end both this one and mtf eg/ef to increase my understanding on it.

thanks to all especially ITB!
  • #2,824
  • Nov 25, 2025 3:33pm Nov 25, 2025 3:33pm
Quoting Pyre
Hi ITB and all, I am new to ff however traded for over 1 year previously and made a bit of money from crypto. I came away from trading for several years and back the last 4-5 months and enjoying my journey. Found waiting at riverband about 2 weeks ago and love the setup have also been delving into engulfing zones this past week as well. f**ked up my account yesterday by risking way too much to make back a loss. Wanted to share that. also been a bit lost over whether to focus on engulfing or riverband or the both….? I know you need to know HTF direction...
This thread is a gold mine, I have had my thoughts of using this method on crypto currencies pairs but I am unsure of the ways to apply the rules as one of the rules relates to the start of a "market session" and Crypto moves 24/7, I can attest to the Engulfing candle set ups do occur. I think tomorrow morning I'll post a crypto chart following the rules and see what is possible in real time. I'd like to hear your about your application of the strat in crypto if you've tried it.

Cheers.
  • #2,825
  • Nov 25, 2025 5:22pm Nov 25, 2025 5:22pm
Quoting Pyre
f**ked up my account yesterday by risking way too much to make back a loss. Wanted to share that. also been a bit lost over whether to focus on engulfing or riverband or the both….? I know you need to know HTF direction for riverband but still feeling a bit lost. I am currently reading through the threads from beginning to end both this one and mtf eg/ef to increase my understanding on it. thanks to all especially ITB!
there is nothing new under the sun. you are only starting out.
at first greed. after hit and humbled, comes in fear.
most won't be profitable. reality check is it takes at least 5-7 years to see consistent success.
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...8#post14784658

use both engulfing and riverbank.
1. engulfing for direction, also for entry.
2. riverbank for entry. also to verify the engulfing entry.
ITB - Seeing Orderliness amongst 'Randomness'
  • #2,826
  • Nov 25, 2025 5:43pm Nov 25, 2025 5:43pm
using htf h4 and above for direction.
we see up trend.
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  • #2,827
  • Nov 25, 2025 6:32pm Nov 25, 2025 6:32pm
Quoting Inthebox
using htf h4 and above for direction. we see up trend. {image}
we use middle time frames h1/m30 for Trade Control.
here we decide whether to use it as trade entry or switch to ltf for entry.

The Riverbank pattern comes in as trade entry to verify all the engulfs analysis previously done.
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  • #2,828
  • Nov 25, 2025 6:44pm Nov 25, 2025 6:44pm
Who caught this Asia move I slept off
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  • #2,829
  • Nov 25, 2025 6:53pm Nov 25, 2025 6:53pm
Quoting ajiemussa
Who caught this Asia move I slept off {image}
asia open trade result
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  • #2,830
  • Nov 25, 2025 7:07pm Nov 25, 2025 7:07pm
I think I got turned around while trying to zone all the areas covered when trying to chart the move that was made on the BTC/USDT pair, I do see the setup started in another market and the liquidity sweep happened in the NYSE and reached a TP around 1pm. I think it is possible to apply the strategy to crypto as well. I apologize for the mess as i am noob.

Cheers
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  • #2,831
  • Nov 25, 2025 7:41pm Nov 25, 2025 7:41pm
Quoting Tengoku
I think I got turned around while trying to zone all the areas covered when trying to chart the move that was made on the BTC/USDT pair, I do see the setup started in another market and the liquidity sweep happened in the NYSE and reached a TP around 1pm. I think it is possible to apply the strategy to crypto as well. I apologize for the mess as i am noob. Cheers {image} {image} {image} {image}
see how price flows from weekly engulf to the rest of bullish engulfs stacking up for the up move during asia open.
m30 bullish engulf aligns with all the other htf bullish engulfs.
price flows from m30 bullish engulf to m30 bearish engulf.
h4 bullish engulf to h4 bearish engulf for day trading move. of course price does not go up in a straight line.
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ITB - Seeing Orderliness amongst 'Randomness'
  • #2,832
  • Nov 25, 2025 7:48pm Nov 25, 2025 7:48pm
lessons end
ITB - Seeing Orderliness amongst 'Randomness'
  • #2,833
  • Nov 25, 2025 7:52pm Nov 25, 2025 7:52pm
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} asia open trade result {image}
got almost same entry and tp same.
Waiting next pullback.
not sure will i asking too much pullback or not.
15m internal liquidity
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  • #2,834
  • Nov 25, 2025 8:05pm Nov 25, 2025 8:05pm
why do we call h1/m30 the Trade Control tf?
if you remain in these time frames, you can see that till now there is no bearish engulf confirmation to reverse the direction downward.
so we can gauge how likely will price be doing the h4 bullish engulf to h4 bearish engulf move.
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  • #2,835
  • Nov 25, 2025 11:52pm Nov 25, 2025 11:52pm
why the bounce during frankfurt?
ITB - Seeing Orderliness amongst 'Randomness'
  • #2,836
  • Nov 26, 2025 12:12am Nov 26, 2025 12:12am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} got almost same entry and tp same. Waiting next pullback. not sure will i asking too much pullback or not. 15m internal liquidity {image}
50% discount,
previous eg became ef
miss this, didnt set pending,
just free from work
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  • #2,837
  • Nov 26, 2025 12:39am Nov 26, 2025 12:39am
Quoting Inthebox
why the bounce during frankfurt?
europe done
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  • #2,838
  • Nov 26, 2025 12:52am Nov 26, 2025 12:52am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} europe done {image}
ITB
want to ask when the 6th condition happen,
do we need go 1m for bos again?
cause sometime it did not happen and reverse but sometime it just drop more.
how you indicate valid for enter?
my pending trigger
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  • #2,839
  • Nov 26, 2025 1:11am Nov 26, 2025 1:11am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} ITB want to ask when the 6th condition happen, do we need go 1m for bos again? cause sometime it did not happen and reverse but sometime it just drop more. how you indicate valid for enter? my pending trigger {image}
"cause sometime it did not happen and reverse but sometime it just drop more."
these kind of things happen because you are in small time frames subject to whipsaw.
all these are already expected so depends on your gut feeling and experience.
or if you are not sure, just wait for more data, or move one time frame up can give you a better view.
in your case, why need to go down to m1. m5 bullish engulf is already showing you the trigger.
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  • #2,840
  • Nov 26, 2025 1:28am Nov 26, 2025 1:28am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} "cause sometime it did not happen and reverse but sometime it just drop more." these kind of things happen because you are in small time frames subject to whipsaw. all these are already expected so depends on your gut feeling and experience. or if you are not sure, just wait for more data, or move one time frame up can give you a better view. in your case, why need to go down to m1. m5 bullish engulf is already showing you the trigger. {image}
noted.
thanks.
just need courage to take the risk.
Recently few time my stop set at internal swing low at 5m/15m ,
after 1m bos and i get sweep then market bounce without me.
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