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  • #861
  • Nov 20, 2025 2:01am Nov 20, 2025 2:01am
I've been trading forex since 2005. Before that, I traded the Nasdaq, the NYSE, and the CAC 40. And I've been following this forum since 2012.
I've had periods where I traded with real money (and ultimately lost). I've tried various systematic strategies. I maintain that there are no truly reliable and consistently profitable long-term strategies on this forum that are worth using with real money. But everyone does what they want with their money...
Does George use in real live his own strategy?
Good luck. You'll need it
Bien amicalement
Jean-François
  • #862
  • Nov 20, 2025 2:10am Nov 20, 2025 2:10am
Quoting le celte
I've been trading forex since 2005. Before that, I traded the Nasdaq, the NYSE, and the CAC 40. And I've been following this forum since 2012. I've had periods where I traded with real money (and ultimately lost). I've tried various systematic strategies. I maintain that there are no truly reliable and consistently profitable long-term strategies on this forum that are worth using with real money. But everyone does what they want with their money... Does George use in real live his own strategy? Good luck. You'll need it Bien...
So in 20yrs you have made zero money ?
  • #863
  • Nov 20, 2025 3:02am Nov 20, 2025 3:02am
Quoting T721
{quote} So in 20yrs you have made zero money ?
That's Cold.
  • #864
  • Nov 20, 2025 3:30am Nov 20, 2025 3:30am
Quoting Twocans
{quote} That's Cold.
it's just a simple question. 20yrs is a shitloada time to put into something to end up nowhere.

I wish i had got a mentor when i started out. Woulda saved me 10's of thousands of Pounds. But i didn't know of any decent one's at that time

This is the hardest game in the world even with years of experience. Newbies think they can make it straight away without doing any work. Most (90-99%) dont want to do that. They want signals and rely on others. If i gave signals for 3mnths, 6mnths, 1yr and then got run over by a bus and killed what would they do then... You gotta put in the time and effort. THERE ARE NO SHORT CUTS

A guy called NotAbdullah in my room has put in a shitloada hours backtesting and learning how to trade Oil and is doing really well... So his results are nothing to do with me, it's all him, his time, work and effort

All i did was to point him in the right direction and its beginning to pay off for him. BUT HE HAS AND WILL CONTINUE DOING THE WORK TO GET BETTER

I REALLY WISH I COULD TELL EVERYONE THERE IS SOME MAGICAL SHORTCUT. BUT THERE ISN'T
  • #865
  • Nov 20, 2025 3:59am Nov 20, 2025 3:59am
Quoting T721
{quote} it's just a simple question. 20yrs is a shitloada time to put into something to end up nowhere. I wish i had got a mentor when i started out. Woulda saved me 10's of thousands of Pounds. But i didn't know of any decent one's at that time This is the hardest game in the world even with years of experience. Newbies think they can make it straight away without doing any work. Most (90-99%) dont want to do that. They want signals and rely on others. If i gave signals for 3mnths, 6mnths, 1yr and then got run over by a bus and killed what would...
I was holding 'Blue Chips" like GE when 911 happened and my world went to shit before the Market reopened days late. Nobody cared, not even my X. I was lucky, a friend of mine lost his son in the Twin Towers. That's Real Pain that never leaves.
  • #866
  • Nov 20, 2025 4:19am Nov 20, 2025 4:19am
Quoting Twocans
{quote} I was holding 'Blue Chips" like GE when 911 happened and my world went to shit before the Market reopened days late. Nobody cared, not even my X. I was lucky, a friend of mine lost his son in the Twin Towers. That's Real Pain that never leaves.
Whats that got to with the price of rice crispies?
  • #867
  • Nov 20, 2025 4:20am Nov 20, 2025 4:20am
Quoting T721
{quote} it's just a simple question. 20yrs is a shitloada time to put into something to end up nowhere. I wish i had got a mentor when i started out. Woulda saved me 10's of thousands of Pounds. But i didn't know of any decent one's at that time This is the hardest game in the world even with years of experience. Newbies think they can make it straight away without doing any work. Most (90-99%) dont want to do that. They want signals and rely on others. If i gave signals for 3mnths, 6mnths, 1yr and then got run over by a bus and killed what would...
thanks alot for the words MrT means alot..after all a mentor or anyone can just show you a path but you are then one who has to walk on that
  • #868
  • Nov 20, 2025 5:42am Nov 20, 2025 5:42am
Quoting T721
{quote} it's just a simple question. 20yrs is a shitloada time to put into something to end up nowhere. I wish i had got a mentor when i started out. Woulda saved me 10's of thousands of Pounds. But i didn't know of any decent one's at that time This is the hardest game in the world even with years of experience. Newbies think they can make it straight away without doing any work. Most (90-99%) dont want to do that. They want signals and rely on others. If i gave signals for 3mnths, 6mnths, 1yr and then got run over by a bus and killed what would...

Sometimes the ugly truth needs to be faced.

This game is hard af.

Just finished my system. Only took 16 years.

And the damn thing still needs some dusting. All is good.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #869
  • Edited 8:37am Nov 20, 2025 6:52am | Edited 8:37am
Quoting T721
{quote} So in 20yrs you have made zero money ?
No, not in short-term speculation. Nobody !
I don't know anyone who's made a profit, either on this forum or any other.
I'm not talking about winning 3 or 4 times like our friend Enoris...
But in one year with trade every day !

Cheers
  • #870
  • Nov 20, 2025 8:56pm Nov 20, 2025 8:56pm
Quoting le celte
{quote} No, not in short-term speculation. Nobody ! I don't know anyone who's made a profit, either on this forum or any other. I'm not talking about winning 3 or 4 times like our friend Enoris... But in one year with trade every day ! Cheers
You dont see it beacouse nobody will show his holy grail in any forum
  • #871
  • Nov 21, 2025 2:08am Nov 21, 2025 2:08am
No strategy works or will work sustainably.
This market is chaos. It's the market makers, the big institutional investors, who decide the direction and its changes of direction. It's unpredictable.
Following a trend, snagging a few pips, won't be enough to be profitable in the end, after a year. Only the market makers are winners.
There are no small players like us who are truly profitable after a year. On this forum and others, there are some very clever strategies (on the H4 timeframe at a minimum), but none are truly profitable over a year.
There are no Holy Grail strategies.
They don't exist.
Swing Man's tools, aka George's, are among the best; his work is exceptional. Unfortunately, that's not enough to become a wealthy winner.
It's mission impossible.

Cheers friends
jf
  • #872
  • Nov 21, 2025 3:26am Nov 21, 2025 3:26am
Quoting mallee
{quote} Whats that got to with the price of rice crispies?
Eat your Rice Crispies and read the few posts above and don't spill the milk. You can read the whole string before 1/2 a bowl. (That's a clue.) lol
  • #873
  • Nov 21, 2025 7:23am Nov 21, 2025 7:23am
Quoting le celte
No strategy works or will work sustainably. This market is chaos. It's the market makers, the big institutional investors, who decide the direction and its changes of direction. It's unpredictable. Following a trend, snagging a few pips, won't be enough to be profitable in the end, after a year. Only the market makers are winners. There are no small players like us who are truly profitable after a year. On this forum and others, there are some very clever strategies (on the H4 timeframe at a minimum), but none are truly profitable over a year. There...
That's your reality my friend. And the statistics support your argument to this being the outcome for the majority who will participate.
Go away and enjoy life.
  • #874
  • Nov 21, 2025 7:59am Nov 21, 2025 7:59am
Quoting DwnUndrTrdr
{quote} That's your reality my friend. And the statistics support your argument to this being the outcome for the majority who will participate. Go away and enjoy life.
It's also great fun to go gamble and lose at the casino!
Or on the forex market with clever strategies, but on a demo account.
Thanks, I'm definitely enjoying life and my happy retirement.

Cheers Sir
  • #875
  • Nov 21, 2025 8:25am Nov 21, 2025 8:25am
Quoting le celte
{quote} It's also great fun to go gamble and lose at the casino! Or on the forex market with clever strategies, but on a demo account. Thanks, I'm definitely enjoying life and my happy retirement. Cheers Sir
Enjoy.
As an aside, I don’t trade for fun. I don’t trade for excitement. The actual process is boring.
  • #876
  • Nov 21, 2025 9:03am Nov 21, 2025 9:03am
Quoting DwnUndrTrdr
{quote} Enjoy. As an aside, I don’t trade for fun. I don’t trade for excitement. The actual process is boring.
So why are you doing this?
If it's to make money, good luck! Nobody wins consistently. Nobody. I
t's like roulette at the casino; Forex isn't designed for small-time players like us to win either. Market makers have the financial resources to rig the market and are very clever at taking our money in the process.
On the other hand, building a strategy is intellectually stimulating and also a lot of fun (on a demo account, of course).
Swingman excels at it, and what's more, he knows how to program.
Bonne soirée
Jean-François
  • #877
  • Nov 21, 2025 4:48pm Nov 21, 2025 4:48pm
Quoting le celte
{quote} So why are you doing this? If it's to make money, good luck! Nobody wins consistently. Nobody. I t's like roulette at the casino; Forex isn't designed for small-time players like us to win either. Market makers have the financial resources to rig the market and are very clever at taking our money in the process. On the other hand, building a strategy is intellectually stimulating and also a lot of fun (on a demo account, of course). Swingman excels at it, and what's more, he knows how to program. Bonne soirée Jean-François
I won’t derail this thread any further, following this post, in respect to those long term contributors and readers to this thread. Your reality is your reality. As I mentioned earlier, the majority of traders will lose financialy. No disputing the statistics. Winning consistently is not necessary if you RR is positive. That said, I trade short term so my RR is often less than 1:1 and very often scratches.
I do not code but have had some “indicators” coded and use alerts.

For yourself, have you ever considered mean reversion at ADR’s with RSI extensions, using correct position sizing at ADR’s…
Or picking the correct trade vehicle, just basic trend following entering on pullbacks? Once again using correct position sizing to ride out moves against your position. Not rocket science.
Possibly consider those, or you can continue to haunt the hallowed corridors of FF with your predictive bias.
You do come across as a gentleman and I wish you well in your future endeavours.
Best wishes
  • #878
  • Nov 21, 2025 6:24pm Nov 21, 2025 6:24pm
Quoting le celte
I've been trading forex since 2005. Before that, I traded the Nasdaq, the NYSE, and the CAC 40. And I've been following this forum since 2012. I've had periods where I traded with real money (and ultimately lost). I've tried various systematic strategies. I maintain that there are no truly reliable and consistently profitable long-term strategies on this forum that are worth using with real money. But everyone does what they want with their money... Does George use in real live his own strategy? Good luck. You'll need it Bien amicalement Jean-François

Quoting T721
{quote} So in 20yrs you have made zero money ?

Twenty years is very long time to be trading and not making some money.

A good case of someone with consistent self-sabotage behaviour. He needs to see both a psychiatrist and a psychologist.

https://traderfeed.blogspot.com/2025...n-trading.html

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Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #879
  • Nov 21, 2025 7:00pm Nov 21, 2025 7:00pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} {quote} Twenty years is very long time to be trading and not making some money. A good case of someone with consistent self-sabotage behaviour. He needs to see both a psychiatrist and a psychologist. https://traderfeed.blogspot.com/2025...n-trading.html ...
A good book to have in your trading library.
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Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #880
  • Edited 2:38am Nov 22, 2025 2:05am | Edited 2:38am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} {quote} Twenty years is very long time to be trading and not making some money. A good case of someone with consistent self-sabotage behaviour. He needs to see both a psychiatrist and a psychologist. https://traderfeed.blogspot.com/2025...n-trading.html ...
No, no, it's been a long time since I traded with real money. But I have a lot of fun on demo accounts. And it keeps my brain working, my neurons firing. A very good exercise after a therapeutic walk.
And not every day !
I like so much George's Golden Cross.. Very good and simple tool
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