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  • #2,761
  • Oct 31, 2025 6:35pm Oct 31, 2025 6:35pm
Quoting grinder3011
Hi all. New here, dipping my toes into prop trading firms and looking to trade mostly "safe assets" as gold or S&P500 that have a rather clear trend. In any case having traded gold on smaller accounts, it feels like with the min position size of 0.01 lots that on a smaller accounts I can't give it enough breathing room. Is it just me not being a good trader yet or did you guys also struggle trading gold on smaller accounts due to daily drawdown limitations? Thx for any replies!
Nothing is "safe" with prop firm trading and gold is the most dangerous, forget about that trend theory except for the 5-minute right in front of your face.

Whatever knowledge or concept you have of "trading" forget it, Prop is just not that, read my post here -

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...9#post15450779

And read what montygoldy shared of how he trades, read his signature line "Extreme gut feeling trader"

Also, this post by newcomer has the right idea -

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...3#post15455093

But in the end, you just have to give it a go, I suggest Take Profit Trader or TopStep, as the trading options are understandable and they payout using the WISE app.

Good Luck
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  • #2,762
  • Oct 31, 2025 7:08pm Oct 31, 2025 7:08pm
Quoting mangotango
{quote} thats so weird. Have you tried asking support ? Like just to be sure it's not a bug on dashboard or something? Did you get any email regarding this? Congrats on 200k month monty
Nope never asked support coz topstep wasnt my first choice since last month .... but now its THE BIGGEST PROFITABLE FIRM FOR ME compared to money spent and money received after LAST year APEX
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  • #2,763
  • Oct 31, 2025 11:37pm Oct 31, 2025 11:37pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/post/15393218#post15393218 ...... sure did after 2 monster payouts. Tradeday is the one that Quickly and Karl and their female alias promote as being the most legit, they open an actual live account, etc, etc

Thanks. I missed that post. Is TPT any better?
  • #2,764
  • Nov 1, 2025 3:44pm Nov 1, 2025 3:44pm
Quoting maltrader
{quote} Thanks. I missed that post. Is TPT any better?
TPT is like topstep No nonsense payouts... Only down side is trailing in pro but once you get over it..... They pay super fast as well like within 10-24h to deduct money from account and then to another 24h to get in account....
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  • #2,765
  • Nov 1, 2025 5:09pm Nov 1, 2025 5:09pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Copier... And for the tpt i used the 25k accounts they are easier to pass... pulled 10k per account from them before they moved me to Pro+
Congratulations on all your success thus far, long may they continue, well done!

Monty, I only see you mentioned Evaluation about Topstep and how that will limit earnings in the future.

How about their XFA accounts - eXpress Funded Accounts - straight to live - are they not an option?

Or maybe I missed something; this prop trading is a real jungle.

I don't see how anyone that is brand new to markets, platforms, and props as well, can ever understand all the options and navigate to the point of success.

I think that is why prop firms backstepped on all the original rules, once the experienced traders criticized them and stopped buying the BS accounts.

I think you're right when you said it's a constant evolution of the prop space, get it while you can!

Cheers.
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  • #2,766
  • Nov 1, 2025 5:28pm Nov 1, 2025 5:28pm
Quoting Erebus
{quote} Congratulations on all your success thus far, long may they continue, well done! Monty, I only see you mentioned Evaluation about Topstep and how that will limit earnings in the future. How about their XFA accounts - eXpress Funded Accounts - straight to live - are they not an option? Or maybe I missed something; this prop trading is a real jungle. I don't see how anyone that is brand new to markets, platforms, and props as well, can ever understand all the options and navigate to the point of success. I think that is why prop firms backstepped...
there is no straight to funded available on topstep…. Only thing they provide is funded account reset if you loses them before payout…..

these funded account resets are pur bs in my eyes and i never do thoes…. Too much money to reset and anyone can pass accounts with half the money max that includes multiple tries….:.:


In prop game best money earners are having multiple accounts i.e for eg for topstep 5 or apex 20 so that your payout will miltiply that many times if you copy trade… but with live comes the restriction smaller dll and contract size… which is not wrong but reduces the earning potential significantly….

So before i make 2000 per account and by copy trading on 5 accounts thats 10000 per payout cycle to withdraw… now with live i am only gonna make 2000 per cycle and if i increases risk then chances i can blow up as well….

Coz once you start making good money then measely 2k, 4k or anything below 10k wont make sense to you.. i am not downgrading anyone or anything but thats me…. I calculate my time n efforts to money earned not how much i spent n make out of it… As life is short and i dont want millions when i am 70 instead i want money now to enjoy it …
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  • #2,767
  • Nov 1, 2025 5:32pm Nov 1, 2025 5:32pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} there is no straight to funded available on topstep…. Only thing they provide is funded account reset if you lose them before payout….. these funded account resets are pure bs in my eyes and i never do those…. Too much money to reset and anyone can pass accounts with half the money max that includes multiple tries….:.:
Ah, okay, I was doing further research and found this, below, thanks.
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Thanks, hope this helps others.
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  • #2,768
  • Nov 1, 2025 6:36pm Nov 1, 2025 6:36pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} there is no straight to funded available on topstep…. Only thing they provide is funded account reset if you loses them before payout….. these funded account resets are pur bs in my eyes and i never do thoes…. Too much money to reset and anyone can pass accounts with half the money max that includes multiple tries….:.: In prop game best money earners are having multiple accounts i.e for eg for topstep 5 or apex 20 so that your payout will miltiply that many times if you copy trade… but with live comes the restriction smaller dll and contract...
maybe a healthy way if you like copy how a lot of other traders do and live very good with this way :
try to get used to it when you do it for full 1 year or 2 years (try to calculate yearly income in the beginning, this helps a lot!)..... then gets more stable.... and never let your fixed bills get to big (so increase with time step by step) , maybe 100.000 USD fix costs a year are ok for 1 million yearly income in trading, to be prepared for maybe some day a smaller or bigger drawdown month can come (dont need to happen with getting bigger experience , but always be ready for it ).

you have already enough money for enjoy.... so you can use 10% from this to make usefull gifts on the beginning (like get better place to live, presents for your parents, car, holidays , computers with display stations.... so all what give you additional advantage and happiness..... ), for wasting gifts you will get time later when money get stable over some years .
  • #2,769
  • Nov 2, 2025 2:51am Nov 2, 2025 2:51am
Hello everyone. I have written several EAs, both for MT4 and MT5. Is anyone interested in doing some testing and optimizations? I don't have an account at Prop Firms.
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  • #2,770
  • Nov 2, 2025 9:47am Nov 2, 2025 9:47am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} alright gents i have blown my funded accounts on topstep after 4 max payout… will purchase again on 1st as i am restricted to max 10 evals a month… will start gain to reach max 4 payouts
didnt this get you banned with Tradeday?.... you purposely blew your accounts before they sent you live to potentially start over and stay sim.
  • #2,771
  • Nov 2, 2025 11:00am Nov 2, 2025 11:00am
Can someone tell me what spreads are at Prop Firms? What commissions, what leverage?
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  • #2,772
  • Nov 2, 2025 11:10am Nov 2, 2025 11:10am
Apex lawsuit discovery....

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if you're a highly profitable trader, this exchange crystallizes that you are considered the enemy to the prop firm's balance sheet & must be stopped if possible.
  • #2,773
  • Nov 2, 2025 1:36pm Nov 2, 2025 1:36pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} didnt this get you banned with Tradeday?.... you purposely blew your accounts before they sent you live to potentially start over and stay sim.
point to understand how they know i am purposely doing it???

its not like i am yolo’ing so many accounts…

For tradeday i purchased only 3 evals ever and got big payout s in minimum time …. How can they evaluate i purposely blew it…traders cannot always win lol.. also if thats the problem with them then you remember the bs excuse they gave - we can ban anyone anytime without any reason thats one of the their faq’s…

for topstep same thing i can buy max 10 evals a month… i used 10 evals last month to pull 100k payouts( 1 max payout on first set then 4 max payouts on second set) then how can they know i purposely blew.. plus topstep is more senssible as compared to tradeday.. they genuinely pay prpfitable traders…

point to consider i dont yolo too many evals, i dont risk nonsense contracts, no shady practise etc…..
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #2,774
  • Nov 2, 2025 2:28pm Nov 2, 2025 2:28pm
Quoting CableJ
Apex lawsuit discovery.... {image} if you're a highly profitable trader, this exchange crystallizes that you are considered the enemy to the prop firm's balance sheet & must be stopped if possible.
If your an influencer then they will pay. If you're not, they will find an excuse not to pay. Shit firm.
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  • #2,775
  • Edited 4:19pm Nov 2, 2025 3:58pm | Edited 4:19pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} If your an influencer then they will pay. If you're not, they will find an excuse not to pay. Shit firm.
Yep thats how it is now...... Till last year they were good now... no more...


Even the big influencers are slowly stepping away from them....They need to make a decision if 20 accounts are not sustainable then reduce it but stop playing all dirty tactics... Other firms are flourishing without any BS
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  • #2,776
  • Nov 2, 2025 4:16pm Nov 2, 2025 4:16pm
Good Luck For Tradeify CUp whoever participating....

I am going to aim for between 1k-2k a day ... Lets see if i survive this week.......

In other Competitions i have seen people making crazy numbers so not gonna compete for podium positions.... but Aiming for top 50.. If i blow not gonna reset not worth the time
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  • #2,777
  • Edited 4:53pm Nov 2, 2025 4:34pm | Edited 4:53pm
Quoting montygoldy
Good Luck For Tradeify CUp whoever participating.... I am going to aim for between 1k-2k a day ... Lets see if i survive this week....... In other Competitions i have seen people making crazy numbers so not gonna compete for podium positions.... but Aiming for top 50.. If i blow not gonna reset not worth the time
That looks like quite a big deal, reminds me of World Series Of Poker, more entries every year, bigger prizes, TV coverage; wouldn't be surprised if other props copy the same idea.
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Looks like the prize pool and payouts are simply based on a fixed amount and not by the number of entries times the entry fee, which could be substantially bigger given the interest in prop trading recently.
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Good Luck
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  • #2,778
  • Nov 2, 2025 5:30pm Nov 2, 2025 5:30pm
Quoting MqlSiX
Can someone tell me what spreads are at Prop Firms? What commissions, what leverage?
You need to do the leg work yourself .. it varies across all prop firms.
  • #2,779
  • Nov 2, 2025 5:47pm Nov 2, 2025 5:47pm
Quoting MqlSiX
Can someone tell me what spreads are at Prop Firms? What commissions, what leverage?
This is for you, all current and future readers of this thread, hope A.I. helps.

Traders typically select a futures prop firm based on payout reliability, rule flexibility, cost structure, and how well the firm's evaluation aligns with their trading style.

Here’s a detailed breakdown of the most important criteria traders consider when choosing a futures prop firm:

1. Alignment with Trading Style

  1. Day traders prefer firms with low spreads, fast execution, and no restrictions on trade frequency.
  2. Swing traders need permission to hold trades overnight or over weekends.
  3. Scalpers require ultra-tight spreads, low commissions, and minimal latency.
  4. News traders must check if the firm allows trading during high-impact events.

2. Payout Terms and Speed

  1. Profit splits typically range from 80% to 100%. Some offer up to 90%.
  2. Payout speed matters—some firms process withdrawals within hours.
  3. Consistency rules can affect how profits are withdrawn.

3. Evaluation Structure and Drawdown Rules

  1. Evaluation types: One-step, two-step, or straight-to-funded. Simpler evaluations are easier to pass.
  2. Drawdown limits: Daily and trailing drawdowns must match your risk profile. Aggressive traders need wider buffers.
  3. Profit targets: Should be achievable within your strategy’s timeframe.

4. Scalability and Account Flexibility

  1. Contract limits: Some firms cap the number of contracts.
  2. Multiple accounts: Allows trading up to 20 accounts simultaneously.
  3. Account resets: Firms like to offer up to 3 resets per account.

5. Cost and Fees

  1. Monthly fees: Range from $49 to $165 depending on the firm and account size.
  2. Activation fees: Some firms waive them with promo codes.
  3. Discounts: Frequent promotions can reduce evaluation costs significantly.

6. Reputation and Support

  1. Community feedback: Forums like Forex Factory offer insights into trader experiences.
  2. Customer support: Reliable firms provide responsive and knowledgeable assistance.
  3. Transparency: Clear rules and no hidden fees are essential.

7. Platform and Tech Stack

  1. Trading platforms: Some firms restrict you to proprietary platforms.
  2. Execution quality: Fast, reliable execution is critical for scalpers and news traders.

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  • #2,780
  • Nov 2, 2025 8:10pm Nov 2, 2025 8:10pm
Quoting montygoldy
Good Luck For Tradeify CUp whoever participating.... I am going to aim for between 1k-2k a day ... Lets see if i survive this week....... In other Competitions i have seen people making crazy numbers so not gonna compete for podium positions.... but Aiming for top 50.. If i blow not gonna reset not worth the time
N gents i am out.. first trade badluck…. The moment i opened long after second retest of the asia bottom…. it tanked and bottom ticked me literally ….. but purchased 10 topstep evals thats the max for this month and hit the daily tp with 1 long….
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