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  • #2,701
  • Oct 29, 2025 7:32am Oct 29, 2025 7:32am
Quoting pipmaster77
anyone else get this message this week...... In collaboration with CME Group, NinjaTrader, and Tradovate, we’ve added a new feature called Self-Match Prevention (SMP) to all of our live-market PRO+ accounts. This is an official CME product designed to automatically prevent any trades which could match between related accounts, keeping every PRO+ trade fully compliant with CME Rule 534. How to copy 5 PRO+ accounts? I just had to attempt 6 times to manually close and it kept rejecting....fortunately the trade continued in my favor....and this is a...
so you can have more than 1 live accounts at takeprofit? so they have the test account and the PRO then if profitable we go to PRO+ did i get it right?
  • #2,702
  • Oct 29, 2025 7:47am Oct 29, 2025 7:47am
Quoting Novazor
{quote} so you can have more than 1 live accounts at takeprofit? so they have the test account and the PRO then if profitable we go to PRO+ did i get it right?
Yes, I beleive 10K in a day gets you moved....don't know what the other parameters are off hand right now....but they allow 5 comination of PRO and PRO+ and unlike most firms they do not combine them into 1 or 2 live accounts.....5 separate accounts, now this new CME product seems to prevent this as you cannot have a "matched" trade in another account?
  • #2,703
  • Oct 29, 2025 7:48am Oct 29, 2025 7:48am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, I beleive 10K in a day gets you moved....don't know what the other parameters are off hand right now....but they allow 5 comination of PRO and PRO+ and unlike most firms they do not combine them into 1 or 2 live accounts.....5 separate accounts, now this new CME product seems to prevent this as you cannot have a "matched" trade in another account?
if its like that its trash unless we have the option to combine it in one live account
  • #2,704
  • Oct 29, 2025 7:48am Oct 29, 2025 7:48am
another response from support.....

Hi I doubled checked with my supervisor and you can copy trade them but only between PRO+ accounts

Joao says:You can not copy trade PRO and PRO+ together for example


says:so this new rule won't "match" them and reject them?

Joao
Joao says:No sir , it will not be a problem
  • #2,705
  • Oct 29, 2025 7:49am Oct 29, 2025 7:49am
Quoting pipmaster77
anyone else get this message this week...... In collaboration with CME Group, NinjaTrader, and Tradovate, we’ve added a new feature called Self-Match Prevention (SMP) to all of our live-market PRO+ accounts. This is an official CME product designed to automatically prevent any trades which could match between related accounts, keeping every PRO+ trade fully compliant with CME Rule 534. How to copy 5 PRO+ accounts? I just had to attempt 6 times to manually close and it kept rejecting....fortunately the trade continued in my favor....and this is a...
Yes, I got it too. I thought that was what they were saying. But wasn't quite sure until you posted The TPT reply.

Thanks PipMaster.
  • #2,706
  • Oct 29, 2025 8:05am Oct 29, 2025 8:05am
Quoting pipmaster77
another response from support..... Hi I doubled checked with my supervisor and you can copy trade them but only between PRO+ accounts Joao says:You can not copy trade PRO and PRO+ together for example says:so this new rule won't "match" them and reject them? Joao Joao says:No sir , it will not be a problem
better that way it would make no sense not copy between same accounts or atleast merge all in one live account
  • #2,707
  • Oct 29, 2025 10:06am Oct 29, 2025 10:06am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, I beleive 10K in a day gets you moved....don't know what the other parameters are off hand right now....but they allow 5 comination of PRO and PRO+ and unlike most firms they do not combine them into 1 or 2 live accounts.....5 separate accounts, now this new CME product seems to prevent this as you cannot have a "matched" trade in another account?
pro+ = >10K profit in one day or >20K profit per account (100K)
  • #2,708
  • Oct 29, 2025 10:08am Oct 29, 2025 10:08am
Quoting pipmaster77
another response from support..... Hi I doubled checked with my supervisor and you can copy trade them but only between PRO+ accounts Joao says:You can not copy trade PRO and PRO+ together for example says:so this new rule won't "match" them and reject them? Joao Joao says:No sir , it will not be a problem
this doesn't make any sense.... why would the CME care about trades copied to a simulated account
  • #2,709
  • Oct 29, 2025 11:54am Oct 29, 2025 11:54am
Quoting CableJ
{quote} this doesn't make any sense.... why would the CME care about trades copied to a simulated account
Yes, they are saying only PRO+, which is a live account. I was having issues this morning with PRO accounts though.
  • #2,710
  • Oct 29, 2025 12:08pm Oct 29, 2025 12:08pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} this doesn't make any sense.... why would the CME care about trades copied to a simulated account
There are many reasons for that: Regulatory concerns, Lack of transparency/risk to prop clients, Broader industry impact. And CME has the clout to set the rules.
  • #2,711
  • Oct 29, 2025 12:54pm Oct 29, 2025 12:54pm
Yolo Gold Long? any one... FOMC
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #2,712
  • Oct 29, 2025 12:56pm Oct 29, 2025 12:56pm
Quoting procrude
Yolo Gold Long? any one... FOMC
nah i am good …: i dont want to spend a dime on apex evals… these days hearing alot of bs happening and seems like guys who have social media presence somehow get payouts other than that always new sort of bs …. So no other firms left for me….
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #2,713
  • Oct 29, 2025 12:56pm Oct 29, 2025 12:56pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} nah i am good …: i dont want to spend a dime on apex evals… these days hearing alot of bs happening and seems like guys who have social media presence somehow get payouts other than that always new sort of bs …. So no other firms left for me….
I agree
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #2,714
  • Oct 29, 2025 12:58pm Oct 29, 2025 12:58pm
Quoting procrude
{quote} I agree
but its going to be easy money for asian session … if bulls steps in then we going to close monthly candle green and there will be so much upside room…. Otherwise we dip then easy sells as well so much room in monthly candle to turn red ….. lets see

my guts says fakeout moves first then dip… i have feeling this monthly candle on down side.. lets see as always my gut feeling only
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  • #2,715
  • Oct 29, 2025 1:16pm Oct 29, 2025 1:16pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} this doesn't make any sense.... why would the CME care about trades copied to a simulated account
The 5 “live” TPT accounts were never actual live accounts. They were still very much in sim. CME wouldn’t allow it.

At best some firms allow 1+1subaccount.

Any firm that markets otherwise is being intentionally deceptive af.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #2,716
  • Oct 29, 2025 4:41pm Oct 29, 2025 4:41pm
About time m****F***** time.....GOD Damn...........

After 29 days of BS'ing finally Blueguardian approves the payout... Requested on OCT - 1

Behind the scenes everyday bugging discord, emails. Even whenever any risk team guy showed up in discord pestered them............


Just for measely 4k
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  • #2,717
  • Oct 29, 2025 4:47pm Oct 29, 2025 4:47pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} The 5 “live” TPT accounts were never actual live accounts. They were still very much in sim. CME wouldn’t allow it. At best some firms allow 1+1subaccount. Any firm that markets otherwise is being intentionally deceptive af.
So, I understand the PRO is SIM, but PRO+ is sim as well? I thought PRO+ was live to get you off their books as a liability
  • #2,718
  • Oct 29, 2025 4:48pm Oct 29, 2025 4:48pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} So, I understand the PRO is SIM, but PRO+ is sim as well? I thought PRO+ was live to get you off their books as a liability
I think its live coz when i moved to pro plus, signed the documents for ninjatrader and id proofs n address proof... Same steps for fundingticks live and mffu live
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  • #2,719
  • Oct 29, 2025 5:14pm Oct 29, 2025 5:14pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} but its going to be easy money for asian session … if bulls steps in then we going to close monthly candle green and there will be so much upside room…. Otherwise we dip then easy sells as well so much room in monthly candle to turn red ….. lets see my guts says fakeout moves first then dip… i have feeling this monthly candle on down side.. lets see as always my gut feeling only
Yes, it will take a monthly close below 3842 to turn monthly red and what a bearish pinbar candle that would be, with a $450+ wick.
I'm long right now with Target at 3992 (daily pivot)
  • #2,720
  • Oct 29, 2025 5:33pm Oct 29, 2025 5:33pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, it will take a monthly close below 3842 to turn monthly red and what a bearish pinbar candle that would be, with a $450+ wick. I'm long right now with Target at 3992 (daily pivot)
Still at crossroads it can fly either way down or up.... i am not completely sold at sells but its like 60%-40% chances.... But yeah i would love for it to go up....

Even quarterly at the verge pinbar....... but as i said always... gold does alot f***ery... Be careful
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