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  • #281
  • Oct 20, 2025 4:32pm Oct 20, 2025 4:32pm
Quoting przfx
Even though each position is opened at different level, all have the same TP level. Is it by design? Because I thought TP is relative to open price (every 20 pips, 30 pips, etc) {image}
Collection yesterday (actually since Friday since it started on Friday)
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  • #282
  • Oct 20, 2025 8:10pm Oct 20, 2025 8:10pm
close all gold posts at around 4372. Only silver trades are kept open. Planning for holiday.
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  • #283
  • Oct 21, 2025 12:02am Oct 21, 2025 12:02am
Quoting fx4money
{quote} yes, most averaging system is like that. you can change the take profit so large, say 500 or 1000pips so most post will be in positive TP, this is more like swing, but you may not have the patience to wait
How is TP actually determined given that different open positions all have the same TP?
I also see TP that is below open price (see screenshot) for some positions => why is it the case?
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  • #284
  • Oct 21, 2025 2:23am Oct 21, 2025 2:23am
Quoting przfx
{quote} How is TP actually determined given that different open positions all have the same TP? I also see TP that is below open price (see screenshot) for some positions => why is it the case? {image}
the calculation is done by the ea, i think it was averaging, may check it out later, resting for the rest of the week, only running ea on silver with minimum lot size atm
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  • #285
  • Oct 21, 2025 2:37am Oct 21, 2025 2:37am
Quoting fx4money
{quote} the calculation is done by the ea, i think it was averaging, may check it out later, resting for the rest of the week, only running ea on silver with minimum lot size atm
Alright ...happy vacation!
  • #286
  • Oct 21, 2025 3:11am Oct 21, 2025 3:11am
Quoting przfx
{quote} How is TP actually determined given that different open positions all have the same TP? I also see TP that is below open price (see screenshot) for some positions => why is it the case? {image}
AveragePrice=AveragePrice+OrderOpenPrice()*OrderLots();

PriceTarget=AveragePrice-(TakeProfit*Point);

thats why the TP could be bellow some of the earlier posts. you can enlarge the TP if you want to get the most TP
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  • #287
  • Oct 21, 2025 3:29am Oct 21, 2025 3:29am
How U are calculating this? This term is both on right side and left side as well.
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  • #288
  • Oct 21, 2025 4:15am Oct 21, 2025 4:15am
Quoting sujitp
How U are calculating this? This term is both on right side and left side as well. {image}
I guess it looks like this in mql4:

AveragePrice = 0;
for( int i = OrdersTotal() - 1; i >= 0 ; i-- )
{
if( !OrderSelect( i, SELECT_BY_POS, MODE_TRADES )) continue;
AveragePrice = AveragePrice + OrderOpenPrice() * OrderLots();
}
PriceTarget = AveragePrice - (TakeProfit * Point);

- so the new AveragePrice (left side form equal sign) is calculated form "AveragePrice + OrderOpenPrice() * OrderLots();"

the start value before the loop is 0 for AveragePrice (AveragePrice = 0

Mucky
  • #289
  • Oct 21, 2025 7:21am Oct 21, 2025 7:21am
change my ea setting, pips minimum distance to 50pips (500points), TP 500pips (5000point).
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  • #290
  • Oct 21, 2025 12:17pm Oct 21, 2025 12:17pm
Quoting fx4money
Condivido uno degli ea che ho utilizzato. Spero di aiutare qualcuno a fare soldi. Comunque, non incolpatemi se non riuscite a realizzare profitti. Alcuni dei tasti di input per riferimento{file}: extern int MMType=1; extern bool UseClose=false; extern bool UseAdd=true; extern double LotExponent=1.00; extern double slip=15; extern double Lots=0.01; extern double LotsDigits=2; extern double TakeProfit=100; double Stoploss=5000; double TrailStart=100; double TrailStop=100; extern double PipStep=300; extern int MaxTrades=10; extern double limitmargin=0.3;...
Hi.
You can enable the daily take profit function, meaning that once the EA reaches a certain number of pips, it won't open any further trades. Do you know when you're trading in overbought zones or away from your PC?
  • #291
  • Oct 21, 2025 7:35pm Oct 21, 2025 7:35pm
First try out is officially done. The account was blown.
Key observations:
- 0.1 lot for 10K account (with the rest of parameters remains default) is too big (the account cannot sustain yesterday's drop)
- The TP level is below open price for some positions during the run (such Take Profit is effectively Take Loss)

Next steps:
- Initiate second try out with fine tuned parameters
- Follow up on TP that effectively become TL
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  • #292
  • Oct 21, 2025 7:45pm Oct 21, 2025 7:45pm
Quoting fx4money
{quote} AveragePrice=AveragePrice+OrderOpenPrice()*OrderLots(); PriceTarget=AveragePrice-(TakeProfit*Point); thats why the TP could be bellow some of the earlier posts. you can enlarge the TP if you want to get the most TP
Thanks for the explanation!

If I may suggest some improvements, I think the EA should check whether the TP level is above open price for all positions and if it finds there is such case, the EA should do something about it (at the moment I am not sure what it is but in my opinion, having TP that is effectively TL doesn't resonate well with the spirit of "investor strategy").

Happy to run second try out with fine tuned parameters (if you have any suggestion on parameters, please let me know)

Last but not least, sorry to disturb your vacation
  • #293
  • Oct 21, 2025 10:10pm Oct 21, 2025 10:10pm
Quoting przfx
{quote} Thanks for the explanation! If I may suggest some improvements, I think the EA should check whether the TP level is above open price for all positions and if it finds there is such case, the EA should do something about it (at the moment I am not sure what it is but in my opinion, having TP that is effectively TL doesn't resonate well with the spirit of "investor strategy"). Happy to run second try out with fine tuned parameters (if you have any suggestion on parameters, please let me know) Last but not least, sorry to disturb your...

That's probably the best worded constructive feedback I've ever seen and I've worked in software. So, respect, it's usually this is shite, why you got a button here
  • #294
  • Oct 24, 2025 4:26am Oct 24, 2025 4:26am
I think it will be something interesting for you too….
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  • #295
  • Oct 26, 2025 6:04am Oct 26, 2025 6:04am
Quoting przfx
{quote} Thanks for the explanation! If I may suggest some improvements, I think the EA should check whether the TP level is above open price for all positions and if it finds there is such case, the EA should do something about it (at the moment I am not sure what it is but in my opinion, having TP that is effectively TL doesn't resonate well with the spirit of "investor strategy"). Happy to run second try out with fine tuned parameters (if you have any suggestion on parameters, please let me know) Last but not least, sorry to disturb your...
it is possible, but easiest method is by using a big number for the TP, say 1000pip.
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  • #296
  • Oct 26, 2025 6:06am Oct 26, 2025 6:06am
Quoting przfx
First try out is officially done. The account was blown. Key observations: - 0.1 lot for 10K account (with the rest of parameters remains default) is too big (the account cannot sustain yesterday's drop) - The TP level is below open price for some positions during the run (such Take Profit is effectively Take Loss) Next steps: - Initiate second try out with fine tuned parameters - Follow up on TP that effectively become TL {image}

with current volatility level, you may want to use minimum distance between entry is 50-100pips (500-1000points).
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  • #297
  • Oct 26, 2025 6:15am Oct 26, 2025 6:15am
for vacation week, i set my minimum order distance to be 100pips or 1000points, TP 1000pip or 10000points, TS 100pips or 1000points. account is still ok with about 20% dd.

bellow is last week results, monitoring using mt4 mobile somewhere in south china sea

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  • #298
  • Oct 26, 2025 1:11pm Oct 26, 2025 1:11pm
Quoting przfx
{quote} Thanks for the explanation! If I may suggest some improvements, I think the EA should check whether the TP level is above open price for all positions and if it finds there is such case, the EA should do something about it (at the moment I am not sure what it is but in my opinion, having TP that is effectively TL doesn't resonate well with the spirit of "investor strategy"). Happy to run second try out with fine tuned parameters (if you have any suggestion on parameters, please let me know) Last but not least, sorry to disturb your...
One thing that you could do, instead of finding the optimum setting for every entry, is to use a Close At Profit EA on a separate chart.

So, set the trading EA TP at 1000 as suggested by fx4money, and choose a profit to close that is what you are happy with.
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Easy as that.
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  • #299
  • Oct 26, 2025 6:59pm Oct 26, 2025 6:59pm
Quoting Erebus
{quote} One thing that you could do, instead of finding the optimum setting for every entry, is to use a Close At Profit EA on a separate chart. So, set the trading EA TP at 1000 as suggested by fx4money, and choose a profit to close that is what you are happy with. {image} Easy as that.
This is a wonderful trick!

I have been "wishing" metatrader to allow multiple EA on the same chart ...turns out the solution is so simple: just run the EAs on different chart but the same pair

Thanks Erebus!
  • #300
  • Oct 27, 2025 12:26am Oct 27, 2025 12:26am
Quoting przfx
{quote} This is a wonderful trick! I have been "wishing" metatrader to allow multiple EA on the same chart ...turns out the solution is so simple: just run the EAs on different chart but the same pair Thanks Erebus!
It's doesn't even have to be same pair; most EA have setting for "any symbol" so it is just reading profit.

I use that one for trading gold, start with small position, add more at certain profit, add even more when good move has started, maybe even another.

And when gold is moving, I don't have time for all that stop loss, take profit, risk management calculations, and such nonsense.

Just add multiple entry, hit a dollar value, winner, winner, chicken dinner!

It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
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