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  • #2,481
  • Oct 19, 2025 10:49pm Oct 19, 2025 10:49pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} come on mate… you must be joking… i even post trade ideas, trades i am in And the outcome of it .. also if you check the tradovate screenshots it shows the trade lines as well.. on projectx charts i dont know how to add trade lines…. i even posted so many times how i trade so many firms manually
Soldier on old mate, I shook my head when I saw that post from Erebus. Maybe he just got out of the wrong side of the bed that day. Cheers
  • #2,482
  • Oct 19, 2025 11:06pm Oct 19, 2025 11:06pm
CLosing Day..... ANother Day another Bread earned not without BS>......

FUNDED -
1. Tradeify 150kx5 - 1500$ each account (DAy 5 recorded only need 1300$ to get the payout 3000$x5 .. Finally after so many failed attempts. After this payout i'll still be 7k nett loss on this firm so need another payout to be breakeven)
2. Lucid 150kx5 - 1500$ each account (Finally really close to Payout 2. Just need to move the consistency down to 20%. I guess need 2000$ more but i have monster drawdown of 12000$ per account)
3. MFFU - 50kx5- 114 per account (Just flipping Day 4 recorded. ONe more day to get Payout 5 and move to live)
4. Tpt- 25kx5 - PASSED. WILL RECEIVE PRO+ DIRECTLY TOMORROW
5. Bulenox - 50kx7 - 400$ per accunt (Just waiting for payout)
6. Topstpep - 50kx5 - 166$ per account (FLipping Day 2 recorded, 3 more days to get max payout)


SOME BS

1. ALpha - 100kx3 - 2k per account loss. COmplete BS missed the tp and reversed hard
2. Futuresnxt - 50kx6 - Failed EVals. now this is getting nonsense was like 600$ away.
3. Top1futres- LIVE - 1200$ loss hit DLL... I just went for the homerun trade i.e 20$ move on gold sell with 1 mini and failed miserably. I am not taking them serious at all.
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  • #2,483
  • Oct 20, 2025 2:42am Oct 20, 2025 2:42am
damn, projectX got issue cant log in now..
Do it like a Fool
  • #2,484
  • Oct 20, 2025 2:51am Oct 20, 2025 2:51am
Quoting Foolsgame
damn, projectX got issue cant log in now..
yeah all X platforms down
Investment Trading
  • #2,485
  • Oct 20, 2025 6:28am Oct 20, 2025 6:28am
Quoting driven18
{quote} WoW, FTMO is a very good bucket shop but stooped low not explaining this point above to subs.
Why can't people simply save up a grand or two and trade micro futures ( to begin with). Beats gambling with prop shops with the dice loaded against you?
Having said that , if one reads many posts here it is clear that poorly funded dreamers of riches scratch around in this thread for the holy grail. They love Monty for the hope? he gives them and many love him for the entertainment he gives readers.
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
  • #2,486
  • Oct 20, 2025 7:53am Oct 20, 2025 7:53am
Quoting turnip15
{quote} Why can't people simply save up a grand or two and trade micro futures ( to begin with). Beats gambling with prop shops with the dice loaded against you? Having said that , if one reads many posts here it is clear that poorly funded dreamers of riches scratch around in this thread for the holy grail. They love Monty for the hope? he gives them and many love him for the entertainment he gives readers.
I am only aware of 2 people on this thread, Pip and Monty who are making money with prop firms, the rest of the hopefuls, unfortunately for them, wasting their time and wasting their money trying to trade. Trading consistently and be profitable is very hard and then you have bucket shops betting against you.
  • #2,487
  • Oct 20, 2025 8:06am Oct 20, 2025 8:06am
Quoting montygoldy
Toponefutures officially screwed my payout potential….. they moved pre live with 1 payout…. Also lost 13k profits … gave me a 6k account and now need to make atleast 2% to get a payout… now need to aim 200-400 a day with max 1 mini… i am net 9k in profits from this firm so i dont care about it anymore.. if i pull any bucks out of it, its alright otherwise, goodbye to them after this {image}
it shows that the firm is not a legit firm. good information.
LUCKY golden trades, LUCKY gold investor trading style
  • #2,488
  • Oct 20, 2025 8:08am Oct 20, 2025 8:08am
Quoting driven18
{quote} I am only aware of 2 people on this thread, Pip and Monty who are making money with prop firms, the rest of the hopefuls, unfortunately for them, wasting their time and wasting their money trying to trade. Trading consistently and be profitable is very hard and then you have bucket shops betting against you.
Yes, I only use the props to subsidize while building Darwinex. With Darwinex I simply need a realistic 2-2.5% monthly.
My personality much prefers a lower risk of ruin with realistic gains.
In reality, once you go beyond 4% gains monthly, your risk of ruin is too high. How to compensate for this is simply more AUM.
When done properly and if you do not need immediate full time income (hence the props to subsidize), I believe Darwinex can pay 100K + annually within 2 years.....which is actually extremely great, everyone is just so spoiled with the pipe dream of overnight riches offered by the props.
For clarification, when I say 100K within 2 years, this is with a minimum of 3 Darwins.
  • #2,489
  • Oct 20, 2025 8:43am Oct 20, 2025 8:43am
Quoting driven18
{quote} I am only aware of 2 people on this thread, Pip and Monty who are making money with prop firms, the rest of the hopefuls, unfortunately for them, wasting their time and wasting their money trying to trade. Trading consistently and be profitable is very hard and then you have bucket shops betting against you.
I have lost 15 funded accounts and quite I lot my own money too. Why ? I am not consistent.
Couple of weeks good trading ( consistency ) and couple of days bad trading and account gone.
Trading own money is not a miracle thing. Losing with "props" and switching to own money = instant success? No.

You are right - key is consistency. But we can't blame good "prop" for our own inability to stick to the plan with every trade we take.
I might be wrong , I have been wrong before
  • #2,490
  • Oct 20, 2025 8:59am Oct 20, 2025 8:59am
Quoting Mandariin
{quote} I have lost 15 funded accounts and quite I lot my own money too. Why ? I am not consistent. Couple of weeks good trading ( consistency ) and couple of days bad trading and account gone. Trading own money is not a miracle thing. Losing with "props" and switching to own money = instant success? No. You are right - key is consistency. But we can't blame good "prop" for our own inability to stick to the plan with every trade we take.
I agree with you but bucket shops only business is to contribute to FOMO, cheat you if you are getting better, therefore a MindFuck(Fear and Greed) happens. Trading is 95% more then just enter and exit.
  • #2,491
  • Oct 20, 2025 9:01am Oct 20, 2025 9:01am
Quoting driven18
{quote} I am only aware of 2 people on this thread, Pip and Monty who are making money with prop firms, the rest of the hopefuls, unfortunately for them, wasting their time and wasting their money trying to trade. Trading consistently and be profitable is very hard and then you have bucket shops betting against you.
How do you know information about people who are not posting in this forum. How do you know they are not profitable? Or are you just assuming.
  • #2,492
  • Oct 20, 2025 9:07am Oct 20, 2025 9:07am
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Futures coming to the5ers
  • #2,493
  • Oct 20, 2025 9:17am Oct 20, 2025 9:17am
Quoting Foolsgame
damn, projectX got issue cant log in now..
still down
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  • #2,494
  • Oct 20, 2025 9:37am Oct 20, 2025 9:37am
Quoting fx4money
{quote} it shows that the firm is not a legit firm. good information.
Absolutely i missed my due deligence on their LIVE account transition coz i never thought they'll push to pre live with just one payout....

IF you check their pre-live rules its a BUNCH of BS i mean they should be sue'ed to come up with bS like ths.

1. GIve 6k account where 60% is MAX Drawdown that means 3600$ is actual drawdown.
2. 1mini max and 1200$ a day drawdown no matter what.
3. Cant withdraw original 6k even though its your wn profit they are pushing.
4. Once you clear pre live then again start again for live.
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #2,495
  • Oct 20, 2025 9:53am Oct 20, 2025 9:53am
Quoting maltrader
{image} Futures coming to the5ers
This will be interesting. I'll be in if the offer is good.
  • #2,496
  • Oct 20, 2025 10:18am Oct 20, 2025 10:18am
Quoting maltrader
{image} Futures coming to the5ers
Good News. More and more companies getting in the Futures game. Better for us.
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #2,497
  • Oct 20, 2025 10:33am Oct 20, 2025 10:33am
Quoting Sdatrades
{quote} How do you know information about people who are not posting in this forum. How do you know they are not profitable? Or are you just assuming.
This is the place where people boast about their winnings and discussing good/bad bucket shops. The door is open for boast. Only 2 talk about their winnings. Well, maybe 3...here is my for today, Dow Futures +140, Trailed out Short for -30 and caught morning long for + 170 and done trading about an hour ago.
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  • #2,498
  • Oct 20, 2025 10:45am Oct 20, 2025 10:45am
Quoting turnip15
{quote} Why can't people simply save up a grand or two and trade micro futures ( to begin with). Beats gambling with prop shops with the dice loaded against you? Having said that , if one reads many posts here it is clear that poorly funded dreamers of riches scratch around in this thread for the holy grail. They love Monty for the hope? he gives them and many love him for the entertainment he gives readers.
I've only recently (last few months) looked into the prop side of it, as Ive always preferred the own account. However, after trying out props I must admit Id rather buy 20 challenges than put 2k into my own account. I believe the ROI will be better that way, but when I do build enough capital I will probably transit to "own account".
2k own account earning 10 bucks per trading day on average will double + the account in a year. Splitting that up over 20 prop challenges will most probably give me more. I could fail all 20, but I dont believe I would. So thats my take on it. 1000 other traders will have 1000 other takes on it.
This is after all a prop thread, about people using props. There is another (anti-)prop thread on this very site where they have been trying to convert "propers" to non-propers.

Im impressed with what Monty has done, but then again Im happy for all that makes it. Im happy for their success.
But, as someone else said, to make it you need an edge. Being it you trading your own account or props.
  • #2,499
  • Oct 20, 2025 10:55am Oct 20, 2025 10:55am
Quoting driven18
{quote} I agree with you but bucket shops only business is to contribute to FOMO, cheat you if you are getting better, therefore a MindFuck(Fear and Greed) happens. Trading is 95% more then just enter and exit.
And you all must agree if you are honest with yourself...99% of you FOMO about Monty performance...I love how he is screwing bucket shops with their own rules, he does not know how to trade, but he is a hustler and if for real, it is alright with me. None of you will be able to do what Monty does, but most of you FOMO his results.
  • #2,500
  • Oct 20, 2025 10:58am Oct 20, 2025 10:58am
Quoting VeliVeliGood
{quote} I've only recently (last few months) looked into the prop side of it, as Ive always preferred the own account. However, after trying out props I must admit Id rather buy 20 challenges than put 2k into my own account. I believe the ROI will be better that way, but when I do build enough capital I will probably transit to "own account". 2k own account earning 10 bucks per trading day on average will double + the account in a year. Splitting that up over 20 prop challenges will most probably give me more. I could fail all 20, but I dont believe...
Yes, I've posted the math many times....the ROI on prop firms blows away a personal account, even if you are passing at a 25% clip.
Now, 500K or higher, I prefer a personal account as I can make 40% per year will virtually no risk of ruin, which is 200K per year.
99% of the 95% of traders who fail at this game is simply due to over risking....they over risk because as I stated earlier today, anything above 4% returns monthly, I gauarantee you are trading too large.
If you have a 10K personal account, this would mean $400 per month.....Sure, if you start in your 20s, this can be compounded and you'll have a nice size account you can live off.
So really comes down to how much disposable income you have and where you are in life, and, of course, you MUST have an edge over the marktes.
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