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  • #1,561
  • Oct 2, 2025 4:21am Oct 2, 2025 4:21am
Quoting Logic-Trader
Applying new theories for the sake of understanding order flow without using the order book or volume, since we don't have that luxury in the spot market. What is happening here in the red ellipse? If anyone has thoughts, please share them. I'll share mine if you want me to. {image}
I'll give you my two cents, for what it's worth. To understand, you have to look at the whole picture. The question is: why does the price rise so quickly with 2 candles, but takes many more candles to fall?
Answer: a rally and base, or a downside correction. For a scalper, the entry is on the demand zone, followed by a spike. It would be even better if it had taken liquidity below the demand zone.
  • #1,562
  • Oct 2, 2025 4:49am Oct 2, 2025 4:49am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} any surprise that it dropped? anyway chances were given for 80 pips gain each in asia and london sessions. {image}
just woke up from a nap for
good place to take partial profit or TP.
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  • #1,563
  • Oct 2, 2025 4:50am Oct 2, 2025 4:50am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} ITB the early i post the set up, any wrong there?
which one?
ITB - Seeing Orderliness amongst 'Randomness'
  • #1,564
  • Oct 2, 2025 4:50am Oct 2, 2025 4:50am
Quoting 19monza64
{quote} I'll give you my two cents, for what it's worth. To understand, you have to look at the whole picture. The question is: why does the price rise so quickly with 2 candles, but takes many more candles to fall? Answer: a rally and base, or a downside correction. For a scalper, the entry is on the demand zone, followed by a spike. It would be even better if it had taken liquidity below the demand zone.
Great sharing 2 candle rise and fall slowly = rally base "buy signal"

But I was going deeper than that. I was asking:
While there are no orders in the shaded yellow areas, the price stopped to accumulate. Where did the orders come from?
This picture illustrates my thinking
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It's not impossible, but it needs a strong will.
  • #1,565
  • Oct 2, 2025 4:54am Oct 2, 2025 4:54am
Quoting LeongPuiy
1. tokyo 2. Ytd low / Ytd open (S/R) 3. Ytd range discount 4. liquidity sweep 5. BOS 6. internal sweep with discount ( 1m chart) 2 set up given at Asia. this is hindsight. 1st: sweep ytd , 5m bos , 30m eg formed. (5 condition trade) 2nd : 1h eg formed, ytd open support, 1m sweep and bos, retest bos and sweep internal (6 conditions trade) @ITB correct me if i am wrong {image} {image} {image}
here @ITB
  • #1,566
  • Oct 2, 2025 5:04am Oct 2, 2025 5:04am
Quoting Logic-Trader
{quote} Great sharing 2 candle rise and fall slowly = rally base "buy signal" But I was going deeper than that. I was asking: While there are no orders in the shaded yellow areas, the price stopped to accumulate. Where did the orders come from? This picture illustrates my thinking {image}
Always just my two cents, for what it's worth. The buy orders are placed above the previous high and within the M5 supply zone.
For more details, see my post #1555. The spike you see is a stop hunt, designed to push the price to where the orders are clustered, and the subsequent drop is the fulfillment of those additional orders. I closed my position at the triple bottom
  • #1,567
  • Oct 2, 2025 5:06am Oct 2, 2025 5:06am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} here @ITB
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  • #1,568
  • Oct 2, 2025 5:07am Oct 2, 2025 5:07am
just closed ytd 2 orders for total 160 pips - swap 50 pips = total 110 pips gained,
still holding today order for trailing
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  • #1,569
  • Oct 2, 2025 5:09am Oct 2, 2025 5:09am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} {image}
yes around there, the set up i spot ,anything wrong ?
i holding asia session order,
LO i didnt trade, busy but has check every 30m,
that make hard to focus work when it up and down
playing my feeling
  • #1,570
  • Oct 2, 2025 5:21am Oct 2, 2025 5:21am
Quoting Logic-Trader
Applying new theories for the sake of understanding order flow without using the order book or volume, since we don't have that luxury in the spot market. What is happening here in the red ellipse? If anyone has thoughts, please share them. I'll share mine if you want me to. {image}
Sorry bro, I really don't understand what you wanted to mean or what did you want to hear !!
You are confusing me a lot.

  1. Firstly, what do you mean my "NO ORDERS"?
  2. Secondly, How do you know that there was not "ANY ORDER"?

IMO, to understand the reason of the price action @your marked zone, you simply need to look to the left.

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  • #1,571
  • Oct 2, 2025 5:28am Oct 2, 2025 5:28am
Quoting 19monza64
{quote} Always just my two cents, for what it's worth. The buy orders are placed above the previous high and within the M5 supply zone. For more details, see my post #1555. The spike you see is a stop hunt, designed to push the price to where the orders are clustered, and the subsequent drop is the fulfillment of those additional orders. I closed my position at the triple bottom
It seems I'm always looking at the bigger picture. I need to incorporate your angle of view into my perspective as well.
It's not impossible, but it needs a strong will.
  • #1,572
  • Oct 2, 2025 5:35am Oct 2, 2025 5:35am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} yes around there, the set up i spot ,anything wrong ? i holding asia session order, LO i didnt trade, busy but has check every 30m, that make hard to focus work when it up and down playing my feeling
the 3 main conditions in the bigger time frame
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...5#post15413185
nothing wrong. i show some earliers ones.
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  • #1,573
  • Oct 2, 2025 5:40am Oct 2, 2025 5:40am
Quoting fxpider
{quote} Sorry bro, I really don't understand what you wanted to mean or what did you want to hear !! You are confusing me a lot. Firstly, what do you mean my "NO ORDERS"? Secondly, How do you know that there was not "ANY ORDER"? IMO, to understand the reason of the price action @your marked zone, you simply need to look to the left. {image}
I meant regardless of the shaded yellow areas were ("low traffic"="no res") the price stopped to accumulate at the red ellipse .
and this what i was thinking about ▼▼

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...9#post15413189
It's not impossible, but it needs a strong will.
  • #1,574
  • Oct 2, 2025 5:53am Oct 2, 2025 5:53am
i do not know what actually or what really happened with the big boys.
who knows anyway. we are just retailers.
but i also like to be creative like the rest of you.
with lots of fun included.
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  • #1,575
  • Oct 2, 2025 6:08am Oct 2, 2025 6:08am
Maybe i not that creative
what i see is this 30m bos after sweep ytd low,
which most people buy ytd or buying during LO or Ny pullback will set stop there,
And today FF n LO keep reject is because trap seller,
after this equal low get sweep n boom upside again.
this is why i hold ytd order even see reject, if it closed below ytd low, i will cut but it only wick then big EG form so i hold it.
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  • #1,576
  • Oct 2, 2025 6:18am Oct 2, 2025 6:18am
Quoting LeongPuiy
Maybe i not that creative what i see is this 30m bos after sweep ytd low, which most people buy ytd or buying during LO or Ny pullback will set stop there, And today FF n LO keep reject is because trap seller, after this equal low get sweep n boom upside again. this is why i hold ytd order even see reject, if it closed below ytd low, i will cut but it only wick then big EG form so i hold it. {image}
Please show where your YTD order
It's not impossible, but it needs a strong will.
  • #1,577
  • Oct 2, 2025 6:38am Oct 2, 2025 6:38am
Quoting Logic-Trader
{quote} Please show where your YTD order
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from ytd set up n ITB has show 30m/1H set up ytd.
i didnt close, that trump n FED cook news spike, i dont really believe that has much effect at trading.
My plan is cut if closed below ytd low.
and i use 1/3 Monday n Tuesday profit to endure DD.
  • #1,578
  • Oct 2, 2025 6:49am Oct 2, 2025 6:49am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} {image} from ytd set up n ITB has show 30m/1H set up ytd. i didnt close, that trump n FED cook news spike, i dont really believe that has much effect at trading. My plan is cut if closed below ytd low. and i use 1/3 Monday n Tuesday profit to endure DD.
wow now you adopting the "cushion" strategy.
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  • #1,579
  • Oct 2, 2025 6:55am Oct 2, 2025 6:55am
new york no red news to push.
go go go johnny go!

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  • #1,580
  • Oct 2, 2025 7:08am Oct 2, 2025 7:08am
Quoting Inthebox
new york no red news to push. go go go johnny go! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6kqFXDL8RQ {image}
Another order hit tp.
one more for fancy target.
round number 3900


some reaction from 4H resistance 3892
if 30 m /1h eg form , i will out the last one
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