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  • #961
  • Sep 19, 2025 3:56am Sep 19, 2025 3:56am
Quoting daisyd
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other than the htf fib, the ltf fib is more relevant
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  • #962
  • Sep 19, 2025 3:58am Sep 19, 2025 3:58am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} 2 options from what i see using h1 as entry time frame during london open: 1. 1st touch of fib 50 or limit order 2. watch pa of going down on candle open and entry upon return to open
Other than benefits of setting SL on LTF (M5/3/1) and quick in/out for precise control,
but when one is busy, not a good idea to trade so HTF may come in handy.
That led me to to consider using H1 TF since the core idea remains the same 1+2+3, with the exception of 4,5,6.

No.2 is something i've been pondering for a while, did a lot of testing, ended up shelving it for later review.
I didnt expect to get an answer together Thank you.
  • #963
  • Sep 19, 2025 4:01am Sep 19, 2025 4:01am
Quoting Tonny8
{quote} Other than benefits of setting SL on LTF (M5/3/1) and quick in/out for precise control, but when one is busy, not a good idea to trade so HTF may come in handy. That led me to to consider using H1 TF since the core idea remains the same 1+2+3, with the exception of 4,5,6. No.2 is something i've been pondering for a while, did a lot of testing, ended up shelving it for later review. I didnt expect to get an answer together Thank you.
or you can try this?
May not sharp entry but least you will got a extra confirmation.
normally 15/30m/1h closed eg , we switch to 1-5m there will be a bos.
if you find small ltf make you stress.

currently i enter gold also not that sharp entry,
cause i late to watch,
i enter first 5m internal sweep, 3649 and 3653 but get stop out BE and small loss.
then i re enter again for second set up, but which also late, 3652 and 3653.
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  • #964
  • Sep 19, 2025 4:17am Sep 19, 2025 4:17am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} i prefer 5m. maybe not sharp but better than 1m , usually 5m bos will lead 30m /1h closed as EG, but not always, when there is strong move up or down, 1m will be more risky IMO. see which you prefer. From the videos i watch from online, if you used 1H , but still better drop to 15m for entry. this is what they said. always use multiple frame. timeframe align is important. i personal , 30m,1H then drop down to 5m bos. {image}
yea, often wonder how you and some others can handle super fast LTF M1.
Liquidity levels come to mind (can't verified as not familiar with M1)

Personally, i've discovered that i can handle M3 LTF after spending much time on chart reading.
helps in seeing new things now and then.For now, W1/D1/H4/M5/M3 suffice for me.
Still, I'm reexploring the idea of giving H1 another look, just another walk down memory lane to "re-see" H1 with fib.
  • #965
  • Sep 19, 2025 4:27am Sep 19, 2025 4:27am
Quoting Inthebox
don't quote me if it does not come true. i will say that it's for entertainment only. {image}
further to the above, by looking at sessions, let's see how relevant that we are able to reach ny high
currently we have higher low of sessions
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  • #966
  • Edited 9:38am Sep 19, 2025 4:39am | Edited 9:38am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} or you can try this? May not sharp entry but least you will got a extra confirmation. normally 15/30m/1h closed eg , we switch to 1-5m there will be a bos. if you find small ltf make you stress. currently i enter gold also not that sharp entry, cause i late to watch, i enter first 5m internal sweep, 3649 and 3653 but get stop out BE and small loss. then i re enter again for second set up, but which also late, 3652 and 3653. {image} {image}
Thanks, will save these for later review.

Last time i did flip with aggressive strategy that's why tense.Now using M5 a lot more manageable
i did some heavy calculations on statistics, improved risk mgmt, came up with a new conservative strategy to handle this.

Just need to be fast and have no doubts when using LTF, take the trade and manage the risk.
Win more than loss. End of the day get the money and be done with it. That's all.
Each trader has a different personality, background, and level of experience, it's up to them to figure what works for them and stick to it.
  • #967
  • Sep 19, 2025 4:56am Sep 19, 2025 4:56am
Just want to update.
currently i close all and sideline.
is friday, i will wait NY, if no trade then it is.
i get 2% already for today.
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  • #968
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:01am Sep 19, 2025 5:01am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} further to the above, by looking at sessions, let's see how relevant that we are able to reach ny high currently we have higher low of sessions {image}
please explain the word "unable"
I use "they don't want to sweep"
It's not impossible, but it needs a strong will.
  • #969
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:07am Sep 19, 2025 5:07am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} further to the above, by looking at sessions, let's see how relevant that we are able to reach ny high currently we have higher low of sessions {image}
What if the TL is drawn like this? The market looks bearish, doesn't it?

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  • #970
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:19am Sep 19, 2025 5:19am
Quoting Logic-Trader
{quote} please explain the word "unable" I use "they don't want to sweep"
Unable denotes a negation of agency—
a state where capacity might be imaginable
but cannot be actualized.
It’s not mere inactivity;
it’s the structural impossibility of turning potential into effect.

unable is not always about weakness—it simply marks a boundary
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  • #971
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:21am Sep 19, 2025 5:21am
Quoting fxpider
{quote} What if the TL is drawn like this? The market looks bearish, doesn't it? {image}
isn't it look like after break out for downside and hit daily support, bounce up, now it seem break your second bearish trendline, and may look for retest ytd high which may look like retest the first trendline.
just bored and plotting my expectation.
Daily 2 red candles but Daily support holding with strong bounce,
that probably mean market want to grab more upside before grab PDL which is equal low.
i may wrong.
i no trade now.

and other view or say,
2 red candles at daily,
most people will want to short today,
that mean more upside liquidity to grab,
now it leaving equal low at PDL,
in future, when it drop,
that area will be the most traders want to long,
make it liquidity.
if want to short, wait liquidity grab upside first, will be more safer.
this all just my speculation.
may wrong.
overall this all need confirmation by current day PA.
without confirmation by PA, this all just hope situation.
PA
  • #972
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:27am Sep 19, 2025 5:27am
Quoting LeongPuiy
{quote} isn't it look like after break out for downside and hit daily support, bounce up, now it seem break your second bearish trendline, and may look for retest ytd high which may look like retest the first trendline. just bored and plotting my expectation. Daily 2 red candles but Daily support holding with strong bounce, that probably mean market want to grab more upside before grab PDL which is equal low. i may wrong. i no trade now.
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  • #973
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:29am Sep 19, 2025 5:29am
Quoting fxpider
{quote} What if the TL is drawn like this? The market looks bearish, doesn't it? {image}
I see the market like this:
Day - bullish - HH/HL
H4 - bearish - LH/LL - red dots
H1 - bullish - HH/HL - blue dots
It's easyer for me to follow the market like this
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  • #974
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:29am Sep 19, 2025 5:29am
Quoting Logic-Trader
{quote} please explain the word "unable" I use "they don't want to sweep"
another choice of words are ' did not even reach monday low", "did not take out monday low". all past tense.
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  • #975
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:31am Sep 19, 2025 5:31am
Quoting fxpider
{quote} What if the TL is drawn like this? The market looks bearish, doesn't it? {image}
what about using it on h4? and then d1.
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  • #976
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:33am Sep 19, 2025 5:33am
Quoting fxpider
{quote} Unable denotes a negation of agency— a state where capacity might be imaginable but cannot be actualized. It’s not mere inactivity; it’s the structural impossibility of turning potential into effect. unable is not always about weakness—it simply marks a boundary
It's not impossible, but it needs a strong will.
  • #977
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:37am Sep 19, 2025 5:37am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} what about using it on h4? and then d1.
Why not? That’s exactly what the swing and carry-over crowd would do.
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  • #978
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:41am Sep 19, 2025 5:41am
Quoting fxpider
{quote} Why not? That’s exactly what the swing and carry-over crowd would do.
more or less same kind deduction. each will have its own story to tell. whether high low, trendline in different time frames.
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...7#post15396477
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  • #979
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:43am Sep 19, 2025 5:43am
Quoting Logic-Trader
{quote}
Just bored and battling a case of Fridayitis—the sloth-like price action isn’t helping either.
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  • #980
  • Sep 19, 2025 5:50am Sep 19, 2025 5:50am
Quoting Inthebox
{quote} another choice of words are ' did not even reach monday low", "did not take out monday low".
did not even reach monday low = they don't have the ability to do so and there is other force against them
did not take out monday low = they have the ability to choose to take it or not.

The question is about the market's core because ICT said that buying and selling pressure never truly exists; the market is just an algorithm.

you will go to heaven because you answering my question
It's not impossible, but it needs a strong will.
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