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  • Edited 11:07am Sep 6, 2025 9:59am | Edited 11:07am
This is the 34-range chart with the MAs on it covering the past week. I think this clearly shows that price movement for the most part is irregular. Keep in mind that my view of these come from a short-termtrading view. A complete cycle for me may be an annoying pullback to someone else.

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  • #3,962
  • Sep 6, 2025 11:21am Sep 6, 2025 11:21am
I have settled on 34-range, 10-range, and 3-range for my sequence of charts. I mainly use the two larger bar charts to see what price has been doing. The period covered by the 3R chart is framed in the other two charts. An obvious discrepancy can be seen on the green and blue between the charts. This is something that is hard to overcome. As long as the look is similar and gives the same look across the three charts, I am satisfied.

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  • #3,963
  • Sep 6, 2025 11:53am Sep 6, 2025 11:53am
This is the moving average part of the system. Gold is the primary entry cycle. An example of an entry cycle is price crosses to the buy-side of the Gold, makes its move up, then crosses to the sell-side. In other words, a trading cycle is the swing move from low or high to the other end. The exception being price crosses in an oscillating range around the gold. In this case the trading cycles would be the cyclic range moves.

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  • #3,964
  • Sep 6, 2025 12:51pm Sep 6, 2025 12:51pm
I have liked the concept of using a grid for some time now. When I found the Vegas Tunnel indicator it was on the charts in no time. This is the one indicator that was used on a different bar size before being fit to the 3R. As I said, I had been testing mean points when I put the Vegas Tunnel on the chart and saw that the tunnel area and the mean I was looking to be the mid-point were close enough for my purposes. Initially I had it set to fib sequence for the levels. I then created a basic rule set around all this and noticed I was missing out on some moves. That observation resulted in the current look.

The purple lines, which are the tunnel, are what I call the VT. This is my mid-point, balance point, equilibrium point, the mean (even though it is technically not the exact mean at that parameter, it is close). The zone created by the two orange levels is the mid-point zone. Each level from either the upper or lower are at increments of 25. This structure fits the movement of price much better.

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  • #3,965
  • Sep 6, 2025 12:56pm Sep 6, 2025 12:56pm
Combine the two and that becomes the system.

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  • #3,968
  • Sep 6, 2025 3:45pm Sep 6, 2025 3:45pm
Quoting spzd
Combine the two and that becomes the system. {image}
Hi Mark, looks like you nailed it with your system, i can see the logic in your charts especially the three chart set up, hope it works out profitable for you.
  • #3,969
  • Sep 6, 2025 3:59pm Sep 6, 2025 3:59pm
Quoting chipsngravey
{quote} Hi Mark, looks like you nailed it with your system, i can see the logic in your charts especially the three chart set up, hope it works out profitable for you.
Thanks.

I think so also. Going to post what to look for in entries before long.

Been a long time to this point.
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  • #3,970
  • Sep 6, 2025 4:15pm Sep 6, 2025 4:15pm
Quoting spzd
{quote} Thanks. I think so also. Going to post what to look for in entries before long. Been a long time to this point.
Just take your time with it mate, it's your system, just let yourself settle into it and see how it progress's, it'll come i'm sure.
  • #3,971
  • Sep 6, 2025 4:27pm Sep 6, 2025 4:27pm
The basics have been layed out for some time now. I am sure there will be some nuance things I will come across.
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  • #3,972
  • Sep 6, 2025 4:38pm Sep 6, 2025 4:38pm
Quoting spzd
The basics have been layed out for some time now. I am sure there will be some nuance things I will come across.
Always is mate with stuff like this, a bit of fine tuning, as with any project or job i prefer to think of things as never finished, but more a work in progress! Anyway it's 00:37am here now so i'm off to bed, catch ya later.
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  • Sep 6, 2025 4:41pm Sep 6, 2025 4:41pm
Quoting chipsngravey
{quote} Always is mate with stuff like this, a bit of fine tuning, as with any project or job i prefer to think of things as never finished, but more a work in progress! Anyway it's 00:37am here now so i'm off to bed, catch ya later.
Work in progress is correct. Once you see something new that could be advantageous you need to see if it can be exploited.

Take care.
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  • Sep 6, 2025 6:35pm Sep 6, 2025 6:35pm
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  • Sep 6, 2025 7:48pm Sep 6, 2025 7:48pm
Chicane

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  • #3,976
  • Sep 6, 2025 7:58pm Sep 6, 2025 7:58pm
The white line is the Waldo Line. This is the first derivative of price and can be used as price. Waldo is price. The game is "Where's Waldo".

A chicane is an "S" type curve. In price action, this would be a small pullback or a small sideways move.

When they come at certain points in the cycle they are entries.
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  • #3,977
  • Sep 6, 2025 8:45pm Sep 6, 2025 8:45pm
Trading Cycles

The irregular cycles at the level of entry. These cycles can be more specifically defined as the combination of price and red crossing the gold. The sequence of the cross should be price then red. Some work, some are junk.

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  • #3,978
  • Sep 7, 2025 7:06am Sep 7, 2025 7:06am
Just discovered your thread last night. I read thru many of the pages, but as there's 199 of them, I wasn't sure where to best start. Can you give a summary of the context of your system? Is it taking the teachings of Stacey Burke and then applying your own set of custom indicators towards helping classify what stage the market is in and where the best entry points would be? Are you going to be rolling out the instructions for such a system all contained in one place soon? I see you're using Ninja Trader, but would it be able to be done on other platforms as well?

Many thanks in advance!
  • #3,979
  • Sep 7, 2025 7:52am Sep 7, 2025 7:52am
Quoting spzd
Trading Cycles The irregular cycles at the level of entry. These cycles can be more specifically defined as the combination of price and red crossing the gold. The sequence of the cross should be price then red. Some work, some are junk. {image} {image}
nice clean charts. my only question is, where's waldo? ok, one more question, exits on price below the red line when long, vice versa when short?
keep up the good work.
regards
goma
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  • Sep 7, 2025 9:07am Sep 7, 2025 9:07am
Quoting fiore
Just discovered your thread last night. I read thru many of the pages, but as there's 199 of them, I wasn't sure where to best start. Can you give a summary of the context of your system? Is it taking the teachings of Stacey Burke and then applying your own set of custom indicators towards helping classify what stage the market is in and where the best entry points would be? Are you going to be rolling out the instructions for such a system all contained in one place soon? I see you're using Ninja Trader, but would it be able to be done on other...

199 pages and many are junk. jk

Quick synopsis,

Attempted Burke style trading. Could not implement it in real time. Took a hiatus from FF.

About pg 175 is the start of the current stuff. Mostly the process of finalizing this system.

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This system is essentially the amalgamation of most of what I have learned and think is valid. The moving averages as derivatives of price (which they are, similar to indexes). I then observe price in its self-created framework. I have fit the tools to this instrument, but it is easily adaptable to other instruments. In my wanderings around the trading world I learned that range bars give a better look at price than time bars. With some experimentation I got the parameters that fit my concepts of how price moves and how to trade it. At this point I will say I am very close.

Any platform that has basic indicators and Range bars should be able to run this system. The downside to NinjaTrader is you are mainly stuck with them as a broker. They do have a free version and this system will work on that as there are no super secret or paid indicators.

The rules are based on concepts that I have come to accept as valid truths. Most of this involves how price reacts and interacts with the framework along with how price actually moves at this level.

The final parameters will not be posted publicly. I will give them to anyone who is interested. I am not the best at "manuals" so the rules come in bits and pieces. Part of the reason is the written explanations can become "convoluted" in my attempt to explain. But I do me best.
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