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  • #121
  • Aug 27, 2025 8:47pm Aug 27, 2025 8:47pm
Quoting Lou
{quote} What an ignorant comment. I am surprised it came from you. You are much better than that.
Truth is I heard the news and it just saddened me to the bone...
(for very personal reasons)

So i made a post .. BTW,, I am American,,born in America,,went to school in America...
I have kids, I love my kids. I have voting power and I have a voice.

When is enough enough ???

Why are childrens lives of less value than guns? Because in America the cold hard truth is Guns rule...
The 2nd amendment is distorted and perverted by the lobbyists and politicians.

Year after year the school shootings epidemic just carries on... ONLY IN AMERICA
and yes I get there have been many mass shootings(schools) in other countries over the years.

But not even remotely close . Not even in the same Universe...The U.S. is parabolically far far far far out in front.
I understand who keep the status quo, and its sickening.

Oh it's a mental health problem.... Yes...yes it is..and what comes next is the easy access to guns.
But the love affair and false sense of security guns provide are more important than a kid getting his
head blown off by a AR-15...

So yes I stand by it,,, "Maybe, just maybe, one day Americans will love kids more than their guns????"

Thoughts and Prayers though seem not to be working... and if all that makes me ignorant in your eyes Lou
than your entitled to that opinion

One of the reasons I started this thread was for me to be able to voice my opinion without the Thread owner
silencing me... Now this is FF's sandbox and if they so choose to minimize my post or whatever... Thats OK I
understand they are a private company and I must play by their sandbox rules.

So with that said Perhaps I have made myself clear to whomever may read this.

I'm not here for likes or friends(although I have made good friends here) I am here to mainly post about
trading which I love.... to actually try and help anyone who wants to learn and in that process I learn too,,,

Thats all
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  • #122
  • Aug 27, 2025 9:01pm Aug 27, 2025 9:01pm
Now back to trading,,,,

Timings Levels Behaviour of Price....

What I like about the Initial Balance is the structure it gives..
Everyday is the same just different prices and different size ranges and extensions.

You know exactly when to show up for your session. Fixed times
You know exactly when and where to look for your trade setups.
You know exactly where to look for profit taking and as well risk management.

And another tidbit is that there is a ton of data available on the Opening Range and IB.
Edgeful.com is a great example.

All markets give the same setups only range/volatility change.

15min OR and 1hr IB gotta love it...the 15m is my preference but I will trade a 5m ORB
in certain situations.


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  • #123
  • Aug 27, 2025 9:05pm Aug 27, 2025 9:05pm
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} Truth is ...............
In a civilized, first-world country, clinging to guns is flat-out moronic.

Every other developed nation manages safety and freedom without daily mass shootings, but in the U.S. gun lovers still act like it’s the Wild West. If guns actually made people safe, America would be the safest country on earth — instead, it leads the world in gun deaths. That’s not freedom, that’s stupidity.
Success = Practice + Patience + Persistence
  • #124
  • Aug 27, 2025 9:14pm Aug 27, 2025 9:14pm
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} Truth is I heard the news and it just saddened me to the bone... (for very personal reasons) So i made a post .. BTW,, I am American,,born in America,,went to school in America... I have kids, I love my kids. I have voting power and I have a voice. When is enough enough ??? Why are childrens lives of less value than guns? Because in America the cold hard truth is Guns rule... The 2nd amendment is distorted and perverted by the lobbyists and politicians. Year after year the school shootings epidemic just carries on......
This incident was very close to me for several reasons: 1. My cousin and his wife attend Annunciation church. He often goes to morning Mass during the week. Just didn't go today. 2. I am a former-retired Catholic school principal in the Archdiocese of St. Paul/Minneapolis. Have visited Annunciation school.. albeit ..years ago. 3. I am a gun owner. Usually go to the practice range on Wednesday mornings. Today, watched the news instead.
Having read the killer's manifesto and viewed one of his videos ... he was obviously insane and needed help which he never got. Let's see if someone was aware of his sickness and tried to help him.
  • #125
  • Aug 27, 2025 9:40pm Aug 27, 2025 9:40pm
Quoting Lou
{quote} This incident was very close to me for several reasons: 1. My cousin and his wife attend Annunciation church. He often goes to morning Mass during the week. Just didn't go today. 2. I am a former-retired Catholic school principal in the Archdiocese of St. Paul/Minneapolis. Have visited Annunciation school.. albeit ..years ago. 3. I am a gun owner. Usually go to the practice range on Wednesday mornings. Today, watched the news instead. Having read the killer's manifesto and viewed one of his videos ... he was obviously insane and needed help...
I am very sorry to hear that Lou...My wife has been a teacher for 25 years and I cant imagine the added stress that she would
have to deal with in the U.S.... I was in the military and loved range days... and I believe people should be able to hunt,,go target shooting etc...
It's a complex issue and I would just love to see much better management in regards to purchasing and carrying...
It's been awhile since I handled guns in the U.S.,,,
Here in Canada...it's strict..yep we've had mass shootings and black market is out there if one wants a gun they can
find it... But much much more difficult here...

And I'm not sayin the US should be like Canada....just improvements have to be made,,,must be made.

And it's obvious mental health is at the core of these killers...Improvements can be made im sure in that arena too..
much easier talking than doing Im afraid...

I dont even want to read what this latest killer has said in his videos or what have you... Innocent lives stolen
What do children nowadays think when they goto school ? My children attended school in the US as well...We never really
had to worry about these things back then.....

Anyways thats enough from me...

All the best Lou

back to trading I think
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  • #126
  • Aug 27, 2025 10:41pm Aug 27, 2025 10:41pm
Edgeful could be a very useful tool for traders.
Very useful software imho

A video analyzing IB breakout by retracement back into the IB
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Along with NQstats...may be of use to some.

https://nqstats.com/
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  • #127
  • Aug 27, 2025 10:42pm Aug 27, 2025 10:42pm
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} I am very sorry to hear that Lou...My wife has been a teacher for 25 years and I cant imagine the added stress that she would have to deal with in the U.S.... I was in the military and loved range days... and I believe people should be able to hunt,,go target shooting etc... It's a complex issue and I would just love to see much better management in regards to purchasing and carrying... It's been awhile since I handled guns in the U.S.,,, Here in Canada...it's strict..yep we've had mass shootings and black market is out there if one wants...
Thanks for your post .. I really appreciate your thoughts and agree. Yes, back to trading.
  • #128
  • Aug 27, 2025 11:12pm Aug 27, 2025 11:12pm
Quoting Lou
{quote} Thanks for your post .. I really appreciate your thoughts and agree. Yes, back to trading.
Likewise Lou
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  • #129
  • Aug 27, 2025 11:37pm Aug 27, 2025 11:37pm
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  • #130
  • Aug 28, 2025 2:25am Aug 28, 2025 2:25am
Quoting bluesteele
https://youtube.com/shorts/sPRUTEWW8...c7mDOIQVcvmJYA
How long it will work if most start to us it ? And going against edgful will be the new edge.
Giving a edge away is like selling profitable trading systems.
I might be wrong , I have been wrong before
  • #131
  • Aug 28, 2025 3:24am Aug 28, 2025 3:24am
Quoting Mandariin
{quote} How long it will work if most start to us it ? And going against edgful will be the new edge. Giving a edge away is like selling profitable trading systems.
Well the Turtle traders didn't bring the system down. Edges are only as good as the trader using such perceived edge
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  • #132
  • Aug 28, 2025 3:55am Aug 28, 2025 3:55am
Quoting turnip15
{quote} Well the Turtle traders didn't bring the system down. Edges are only as good as the trader using such perceived edge
You are right, price must breakout, it can't range forever. I makes sense, based on market logic
But caps must be filled... They might get filled but can't see logic behind it.
I might be wrong , I have been wrong before
  • #133
  • Aug 28, 2025 6:57am Aug 28, 2025 6:57am
Quoting Mandariin
{quote} You are right, price must breakout, it can't range forever. I makes sense, based on market logic But caps must be filled... They might get filled but can't see logic behind it.
Too much thinking, too little trading leads to a never ending debate on ff threads of, "what if"
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  • #134
  • Aug 28, 2025 6:59am Aug 28, 2025 6:59am
Quoting bluesteele
https://youtube.com/shorts/sPRUTEWW8...c7mDOIQVcvmJYA
But he charges a fee. One can get tradeable info from what Blue writes for nowt
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  • #135
  • Aug 28, 2025 8:13am Aug 28, 2025 8:13am
Quoting turnip15
{quote} But he charges a fee. One can get tradeable info from what Blue writes for nowt
I don't mind some vendor fees. For example, I bought Al Brooks's trading course. Given the extent to which my trading plans are largely built on concepts introduced to me by Al, I'd have to say it was 1000% worth the money.

I pay a monthly data subscription to the CME for live price data. I have to pay it or else I'm at a disadvanatage trying to trade on 15 to 20 minute delayed data. So I don't mind paying it.

I am dubious of most trading vendors, however. I think that once one becomes familiar with the basics of price action, e.g. breakout, trend, consolidation, breakout, reversal, that one is all set and merely needs to spend hours observing live data, even more hours reviewing historical data, and then constructing a trading plan around a methodology and a strategy that he or she is able to adhere to in a disciplined way. It is the discipline where most of us fail on our trading journey.
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  • #136
  • Aug 28, 2025 9:29am Aug 28, 2025 9:29am
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  • #137
  • Aug 28, 2025 8:42pm Aug 28, 2025 8:42pm
The above post and chart...ES S&P500
I say the Initial Balance/IB sets the daily range for 24hrs(+)
The high and low of that first hours trading. Sets these levels.

You can trade them alone as structure using PA techniques etc.
Or you can add some other professional tools to your toolbox.
Like VWAP..

VWAP did you know that it is an Institutional tool ? It is used as a benchmark for buying and selling
across the board. Large orders are broken up and VWAP is the benchmark price for execution.

Why would us retail traders not want to follow these breadcrumbs ?

Institutional trading algos use VWAP...Institutional traders themselves use VWAP and their
performance is gauged on "Is their avg execution price better than vwap"

As well the CME uses VWAP for setting daily Settlement price (close) they use it for options
they use it for price fixing Currency futures and Crypto...

We dont need to know how all that works ,,,we just need the levels and an understanding of them.

Heres some charts of Oil today... A very Institutional market...iikely the most important commodity of all
as Oil drives all so to speak. A true supply and demand market.

Enough talking some charts that maybe confuse you interest you or could care less lol... all good !

I just love sharing ! and observe where does the market turn ? IB levels and VWAP levels...
WHY ?? Well not because of us Piddly Retail traders

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  • #138
  • Aug 28, 2025 9:02pm Aug 28, 2025 9:02pm
A little closer look at Crude on the 1min..

Using auction market theory of Fair Value Price discovery etc,
and adding a simplistic RoadMap (Laura's thread) entry method.
But with the bigger picture in mind..

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Edit: Forgot this one....This is what I posted this morning about missing... The first short of the day.
Was a 15m ORB BO aligned with RoadMap perfectly and VWAP with the confirmation candle close below etc
But theres always another bus that comes along....

If I am not winning....I am learning (not losing)
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  • #139
  • Aug 29, 2025 8:12am Aug 29, 2025 8:12am
Quoting bluesteele
A little closer look at Crude on the 1min.. Using auction market theory of Fair Value Price discovery etc, and adding a simplistic RoadMap (Laura's thread) entry method. But with the bigger picture in mind.. {image} {image} Edit: Forgot this one....This is what I posted this morning about missing... The first short of the day. Was a 15m ORB BO aligned with RoadMap perfectly and VWAP with the confirmation candle close below etc But theres always another bus that comes along.... If I am not winning....I am learning (not losing) {image}...
While still on holiday watching the rain come down, I thought I would try a Demo Nas 100 CFD trade on a UK based prop brokers site ! Set a 15 minute ORB ( thanks Blue) to see what happened. I also used H/Lows ( 5 minute) prior to 8am UK time. Broke down nicely through the levels. These levels may coincide with Blues" vwap stuff?
Anyroads, I always look left prior to opens.
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  • #140
  • Aug 29, 2025 8:58am Aug 29, 2025 8:58am
Quoting turnip15
{quote} While still on holiday watching the rain come down, I thought I would try a Demo Nas 100 CFD trade on a UK based prop brokers site ! Set a 15 minute ORB ( thanks Blue) to see what happened. I also used H/Lows ( 5 minute) prior to 8am UK time. Broke down nicely through the levels. These levels may coincide with Blues" vwap stuff? Anyroads, I always look left prior to opens. {image}
RoadMap FTW Turnip

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