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  • #921
  • Aug 21, 2025 4:59pm Aug 21, 2025 4:59pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} you miss the point. trading high ticket and small ticket not the same especially for cfd. If its 100k with 10k or 10k for 10k is same. lot size cap is better change not your idea for margin you must have more balances if you lose 50% of 10k you cannot open same trades. Lot size cap with 100k you can still open same trade
Well people are using the margin provided by 100K when they can only lose 10K and if you lose 5K and only have 5K left you shouldn't be able to open same size trades.
It is adverttised as 100;1 leverage on 100K, when, in reality it is 1000:1 on 10K......gee, can't figure out why folks fail so quick or request a 20K payout first month
  • #922
  • Aug 21, 2025 5:08pm Aug 21, 2025 5:08pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Tradeify has the least rules, by far...no news restriction, you can DCA, 20% consistency is really all, don't make more than 20 %, which is $1800 initially as your first target is 9K....yes it'll probably take 2-3 months, but 2nd is $4,500 and then $$$ for $$$ after that...if you use first payout to buy 4 more within 7-8 months only shooting for $200 per day, you're at 1K per day copying 5. Everyone is in such a hurry....this is not easy......I thinks that's the big issue, the perception that this is a piece of cake and we should all make...
Yes, perhaps they still have the fewest rules. However, I don't understand what the point of the 5-day minimum profit is. Shouldn't it make absolutely no difference whether you made $50, $1,000, or $10 in a day? Every trading book in the world tells you not to chase daily profits and to trade what your plan/strategy says, and the profits will take care of themselves, provided you have a positive expected value with what you're doing and manage your risk. Your risk is pretty much all you can reasonably control. Setting a time-based profit target is unnecessary pressure? Sure for all the elite traders here making 1,2,10,20% daily returns but all hang around on forex factory that’s probably no big deal. For me it is. I would be happy making a consistent quarterly return. If i need to achieve a daily profit I see disaster coming hehe.
  • #923
  • Aug 21, 2025 5:21pm Aug 21, 2025 5:21pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Well people are using the margin provided by 100K when they can only lose 10K and if you lose 5K and only have 5K left you shouldn't be able to open same size trades. It is adverttised as 100;1 leverage on 100K, when, in reality it is 1000:1 on 10K......gee, can't figure out why folks fail so quick or request a 20K payout first month
The combination for both ideas is better, 10k dd should be trade as 10k account. With lot cap it can be done the main problem for large ticket is trading decay is wide for big ticket. In most situation trade that is decay is anomaly not the mean. If someone says high ticket is the problem it means the order useless cant A can't B better just ban the trader. If account is 10k the ticket can be high still if its cross or exotic. Sample size 100 trades, 2 will be high ticket anomaly. High ticket anomaly for A book is most of a book loss, high ticket anomaly on b book can be most of b book loss eliminate anomaly to make harmony.
  • #924
  • Aug 21, 2025 5:40pm Aug 21, 2025 5:40pm
Really cool guy, and interesting to see what he's achieved so far in his life as a trader, as well as his perspective on things. Something different, hope it's okay to share it here. I have to go to bed now, it's late here.

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  • #925
  • Aug 21, 2025 7:03pm Aug 21, 2025 7:03pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} So with your 50k account you first need to make $8333 in profits to be allowed to take out 5k? That‘s a +16.6% profit that you would have to achieve. Most probably will never reach it and lose the account way before. Doesn’t sound like a fair/good deal to me. You pay a recurrent monthly fee / one-time fee but are forced to make a very high return (under their rules, consistency, drawdown etc etc.) before ever seeing any money in your bank account. You should be allowed to withdraw any amount/profit you wish without...
You can withdraw before that. Don't need to take out 5k. Minimum is 500.

Also, I made a mistake in my previous post according to the mod in their discord. You're allowed to withdraw into the buffer as long as you pass the drawdown threshold in profit first. Example, for a 50k, you make 52k. You can then withdraw 60% of it.
  • #926
  • Aug 21, 2025 8:36pm Aug 21, 2025 8:36pm
Quoting Noisy
Really cool guy, and interesting to see what he's achieved so far in his life as a trader, as well as his perspective on things. Something different, hope it's okay to share it here. I have to go to bed now, it's late here. https://youtu.be/j0VwxawidR4?si=27pxtklSso71IwQa
Thanks for sharing. Love these type of videos.
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #927
  • Aug 22, 2025 3:17am Aug 22, 2025 3:17am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Right, but consider this.......an FTMO 100K account requires 10% to pass stage 1 and 5% stage 2 so 15K with max loss of 10K, exacly the same as 9K with a 6K max loss at Tradeify....for almost EXACTLY the same cost. But at FTMO, that just begins the funded account, at Tradeify you are pulling 3K at that point
I do quite like the numbers of the 150k tradefiy account. On the face of it needing to make 9k profit to pull out 3k seems particularly favourable as compared to 18k to pull out 3k on ftmo (excluding splits). The consistency rule and trailing drawdown are the levelling factors.

I still think I'll give tradeify a shot before this discount offer ends
  • #928
  • Aug 22, 2025 3:50am Aug 22, 2025 3:50am
Quoting maltrader
{quote} You can withdraw before that. Don't need to take out 5k. Minimum is 500. Also, I made a mistake in my previous post according to the mod in their discord. You're allowed to withdraw into the buffer as long as you pass the drawdown threshold in profit first. Example, for a 50k, you make 52k. You can then withdraw 60% of it.
Thanks for clarifying.
  • #929
  • Aug 22, 2025 4:21am Aug 22, 2025 4:21am
I didn't know MT5 could be used to trade futures.
Apparently there is only one way to do it.
Anyone done it?
And any chance any props are going to facilitate it?
https://offers.stonex.com/hubfs/Ston...e-50ffa7d9d21f
  • #930
  • Aug 22, 2025 4:55am Aug 22, 2025 4:55am
Quoting OutThere
I didn't know MT5 could be used to trade futures. Apparently there is only one way to do it. Anyone done it? And any chance any props are going to facilitate it? https://offers.stonex.com/hubfs/Ston...e-50ffa7d9d21f
That’s why I started to use MT5 but not many brokers seem to have it. Not sure about props. I am currently testing a MT5 account with AMPFutures.

In the futures world most brokers seem to provide their own proprietary platforms. Some do NinjaTrader, TradingView etc.
  • #931
  • Aug 22, 2025 5:03am Aug 22, 2025 5:03am
Quoting OutThere
I didn't know MT5 could be used to trade futures. Apparently there is only one way to do it. Anyone done it? And any chance any props are going to facilitate it? https://offers.stonex.com/hubfs/Ston...e-50ffa7d9d21f
My Darwinex futures account is MT5.
amp futures offers MT5 on a personal account.
  • #932
  • Aug 22, 2025 5:06am Aug 22, 2025 5:06am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} That’s why I started to use MT5 but not many brokers seem to have it. Not sure about props. I am currently testing a MT5 account with AMPFutures. In the futures world most brokers seem to provide their own proprietary platforms. Some do NinjaTrader, TradingView etc.
Ya I want to start on MT5 cause more and more indy and Eas are being made for it and one never knows if/when MT4 will be pulled.
If one broker can do it, others should be able too. I don't know why it is so difficult.
I was thinking broker/prop combos like FTMO, Axi and Darwinex are most likely to try.
It'll open a whole new avenue of growth for them but I guess they are happy as it is.
  • #933
  • Aug 22, 2025 5:07am Aug 22, 2025 5:07am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} My Darwinex futures account is MT5. amp futures offers MT5 on a personal account.
Oh right. haha I forgot about Darwinex. duh
I've never touched futures, so I am totally green in that field.
So I can use EA's on MT5 to trade on Darwinex? hmmm
  • #934
  • Aug 22, 2025 5:08am Aug 22, 2025 5:08am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} That’s why I started to use MT5 but not many brokers seem to have it. Not sure about props. I am currently testing a MT5 account with AMPFutures. In the futures world most brokers seem to provide their own proprietary platforms. Some do NinjaTrader, TradingView etc.
Only Topstep has a proprietary platform, TopstepX. They farm it out to a lot of the newer firms.
All of the others offer Tradeovate and/or rithmic (feed available on many platforms). You can overlay TV on Tradovate.
  • #935
  • Aug 22, 2025 5:20am Aug 22, 2025 5:20am
Everyone who trades futures is doing it manually as far as I know.
I've never heard of anyone using EA's to trade futures on Darwinex or elsewhere.
Anyone has heard of an EA futures trader? Any link?
  • #936
  • Aug 22, 2025 6:36am Aug 22, 2025 6:36am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} To be honest, I don't like TradingView, NinjaTrader, or Tradovate and that alone puts me off trading futures, but if you want to use a prop trading company like this you probably have to go with their platforms. With the brokers that I have now found for possible futures trading, I have at least found a solution so that I can continue to use MetaTrader, as I am most familiar with this platform and do not see any problems. It makes a lot things much easier especially if you wish to automate certain things. I know NinjaTrader or things like...
Amen to everything you wrote.

If there is one person who knows fully how to trade futures with ea's using mt5, it is hayseed but he hasn't been around for months.
  • #937
  • Aug 22, 2025 6:43am Aug 22, 2025 6:43am
Quoting OutThere
Everyone who trades futures is doing it manually as far as I know. I've never heard of anyone using EA's to trade futures on Darwinex or elsewhere. Anyone has heard of an EA futures trader? Any link?
I believe there are quiet a lot of algo future traders. Not sure they use MetaTrader for it (especially in the professional space (Hedge funds, Quants etc.) I guess they use their own individual programmed solutions and the FIX API for it.
  • #938
  • Aug 22, 2025 6:50am Aug 22, 2025 6:50am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Amen to everything you wrote. If there is one person who knows fully how to trade futures with ea's using mt5, it is hayseed but he hasn't been around for months.
what is the problem in trading futures? choose a broker who offer direct future trading (and has the contracts you want to trade) and have MT5 and then trade it. so simple as that. where are the problems on your side?
  • #939
  • Aug 22, 2025 6:54am Aug 22, 2025 6:54am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} I believe there are quiet a lot of algo future traders. Not sure they use MetaTrader for it (especially in the professional space (Hedge funds, Quants etc.) I guess they use their own individual programmed solutions and the FIX API for it.
a lot of brokers have their own trading platforms too. MT4 was good 10-20 years ago, and many people still like it who did come from this old times. i am also one of this and like it as frontend, because you can add anything you want simple and easy and program rest around so it Displays any detail you want to see most easy way(of course same with mt5 with more easy using of futures ).
  • #940
  • Aug 22, 2025 6:57am Aug 22, 2025 6:57am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} I believe there are quiet a lot of algo future traders. Not sure they use MetaTrader for it (especially in the professional space (Hedge funds, Quants etc.) I guess they use their own individual programmed solutions and the FIX API for it.
There are a lot of algo traders in futures. Ninjatrader since its one of the oldest has a vast community and library of algo's. There's a forum for Futures trading and the various platforms that is informative. I used it a lot when I first started (formally known as futures.io) It is now called nexusfi.com

MT5 isn't that popular for futures trading. None of the prop firms offer it. A few of the futures FCM's offer it as you know like AMP.
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