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  • #41
  • Edited 2:05pm Aug 8, 2025 1:51pm | Edited 2:05pm
Quoting RafilliusB
automated the strategy. I’m sorry to tell you that it has no future
1. EVERY MA-based system
(like just EVERY mechanic system) has no future been automated in an EA version or using blindly.

2a. TDI is absolutely the same bull sh*t like EVERY other oscillator - it can sometimes filter something but almost all the time it just mirrors the price moves being a "f*ucking overcalculated MA" - not my words but Bill Williams' if I'm not confused.

2b. Moving from MAs+stoch to MAs+TDI will give you nothing. Look at the "Trading Made Simple" thread: people generate bull sh*t for years but all the result is just 11 ways to exit a trade = no solid system after an "anniversary" of this "research".

3a. You made the stoch not only filter entries but incoporated it into the trigger block of your entry logic - it's good and more than ENOUGH for an oscillator.

3b. YOUR vision of MA+stoch is OK for "1-2 trades a day" style + PA looking + LO session + pairs selection (GU and UC).

Please don't make a Jamesagnew mistake: don't jump away now.
Just an opinion. Based on research
  • #42
  • Aug 8, 2025 2:27pm Aug 8, 2025 2:27pm
[quote=since80808;15344346]{quote} 1. Ningún sistema basado en media móvil (como ningún sistema mecánico) tiene futuro si se automatiza en una versión de asesor experto (EA) o se usa a ciegas. 2a. El TDI es la misma porquería que cualquier otro oscilador: a veces puede filtrar algo, pero casi siempre refleja los movimientos del precio, siendo una "media móvil (MA) completamente sobrecalculada" (no son mis palabras, sino de Bill Williams, por si no me equivoco). 2b. Pasar de medias móviles + estocástico a medias móviles + TDI no te dará ningún resultado. Mira el hilo "Trading Made Simple": la gente genera porquerías durante años, pero el resultado son solo 11 maneras de salir de una operación = ningún sistema sólido después de un "aniversario" de esta "investigación". 3a. Hizo que el estocástico no solo filtrara las entradas, sino que lo incorporó al bloque de activación de su lógica de entrada; es bueno y más que suficiente para un oscilador. 3b. Su visión de media móvil (MA) + estocástico es adecuada para el estilo de "1-2 operaciones al día" + análisis de precios al consumidor (PA) + sesión de mínimos históricos (LO) + selección de pares (GU y UC). Por favor, no cometa el error de Jamesagnew: no se desvíe ahora.

You don’t know how much I appreciate your message.
I did this to create a good community and help as much as possible, and when I saw what I saw… I was very disappointed.
Not only because it could harm me, but also because it could harm others.
But I will keep searching and improving.
I might add Heiken Ashi candles since I think they can filter out weak entries. Tomorrow I will run some tests, and if I like them, I will update the strategy descript
ion.
  • #43
  • Aug 8, 2025 2:29pm Aug 8, 2025 2:29pm
Quoting since80808
{quote} 1. EVERY MA-based system (like just EVERY mechanic system) has no future been automated in an EA version or using blindly. 2a. TDI is absolutely the same bull sh*t like EVERY other oscillator - it can sometimes filter something but almost all the time it just mirrors the price moves being a "f*ucking overcalculated MA" - not my words but Bill Williams' if I'm not confused. 2b. Moving from MAs+stoch to MAs+TDI will give you nothing. Look at the "Trading Made Simple" thread: people generate bull sh*t for years but all the result is just 11...
Agree
What can you suggest to make it more strong and reliable for one or two trades per day?
  • #44
  • Aug 8, 2025 6:36pm Aug 8, 2025 6:36pm
Quoting Merka
{quote} Estoy de acuerdo. ¿Qué puedes sugerir para hacerlo más sólido y confiable para una o dos operaciones por día?

I’m going to keep testing, thinking, and researching.
Tomorrow I’ll do a backtest with Heiken Ashi — slower candles that will filter out market noise.
Let’s build something simple that’s worth it
  • #45
  • Aug 9, 2025 3:16am Aug 9, 2025 3:16am
Quoting Merka
{quote} Agree What can you suggest to make it more strong and reliable for one or two trades per day?
Frankly I think it has it all. Little bit looking after the price action or structure - is everything to add. Lщok at every long thread on FF: simple idea - overfiltering - trying to create a grail - ruin.
Just an opinion. Based on research
  • #46
  • Edited 3:43am Aug 9, 2025 3:24am | Edited 3:43am
Quoting RafilliusB
Heiken Ashi — slower candles that will filter
HA is another averaging tool. In other words you can just add any fast MA and wait for its crosses with your current MA12. But crosses are the worst method of using of MAs. Crosses of any lagging (averaging) intruments is a self faking - not a trend change marker.

Honestly candle (as an averaged data of price changes in a time unit) crossing MA12 - is the same averaging tools cross I just try to say that you don't need to add more and more the same algorythm based tools trying to improve the system. I'd propose just to look at structures (HH, LL, "trend" whatever you understand in it, recent serious levels) but not more idicators. Subjectively.

Also you have personal rules set like not using too long signal candles. I'd add some more little ideas to filter, for example:
is the signal candle solid?
are the wicks of the signal candle not too big?
is the signal candle body more above or below the MA12?

HIDSIGHT, I know Just to illustrate a train of thought:
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  • #47
  • Edited 4:30am Aug 9, 2025 4:08am | Edited 4:30am
P.S.
If you are still interested in manyMAs + oscillator + HA, look at https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/1288141-guppy-re-invented - Dr. Walvekar has created realy solid and stable system based on them already. But! Even there you have to take a look at trend structures, levels (, as for me - take only the first pullbacks in every trade).
Just an opinion. Based on research
  • #48
  • Aug 9, 2025 4:15am Aug 9, 2025 4:15am

STOP EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING AND SET AN ALARM ON YOUR PHONE FOR THE NEXT NOTIFICATION.

WE HAVE A SYSTEM!



DEJEN TODO LO QUE ESTEN HACIENDO Y PONGAN UNA ALARMA EN SU MOVIL PARA LA SIGUIENTE NOTIFICACIÓN

TENEMOS SISTMA!

  • #49
  • Edited 5:42am Aug 9, 2025 5:23am | Edited 5:42am

Take advantage of this... you don't know how much I would have liked to find information of this quality when I started


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  • #50
  • Aug 9, 2025 5:46am Aug 9, 2025 5:46am
Quoting since80808
P.S. If you are still interested in manyMAs + oscillator + HA, look at https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/1288141-guppy-re-invented - Dr. Walvekar has created realy solid and stable system based on them already. But! Even there you have to take a look at trend structures, levels (, as for me - take only the first pullbacks in every trade).
1MA or 100s like in the guppy thread will not change the outcome.
As you mentioned as well.
Limiting to just first pullback as you suggested and good money management could be the answer.
Cheers
  • #51
  • Edited 8:19am Aug 9, 2025 7:54am | Edited 8:19am
Quoting RafilliusB
Quoting since80808
{quote} 1. Ningún sistema basado en media móvil (como ningún sistema mecánico) tiene futuro si se automatiza en una versión de asesor experto (EA) o se usa a ciegas. 2a. El TDI es la misma porquería que cualquier otro oscilador: a veces puede filtrar algo, pero casi siempre refleja los movimientos del precio, siendo una "media móvil (MA) completamente sobrecalculada" (no son mis palabras, sino de Bill Williams, por si no me equivoco). 2b. Pasar de medias móviles + estocástico a medias móviles + TDI no te dará ningún resultado.
...
Not posting often, but this one irked me... Bill Williams has never been recorded to have said that about the TDI/RSI - just because You (since80808) don't seem to understand the nuances of price action, the TDI/RSI tries to converse, it does not mean the information is useless or nor that it is just an overcomplicated MA... Once you understand it, it's brilliant... I'd take it over any Stochastic... Not dissing you, just asking to open your mind and see the possibilities that lie within... Just my 2 Cents
  • #52
  • Aug 9, 2025 8:15am Aug 9, 2025 8:15am
Quoting Hanuman
{quote}{quote} Not posting often, but this one irked me... Bill Williams has never been recorded to have said that about the TDI/RSI - just because You (since80808) don't seem to understand the nuances of price action, the TDI/RSI tries to converse, it does not mean the information is useless or nor that it is just an overcomplicated MA... Once you understand it, it's brilliant... Not dissing you, just asking to open your mind and see the possibilities that lie within... Just my 2 Cents
Why not? Your way to trade, all the best.
Just an opinion. Based on research
  • #53
  • Edited 5:14am Aug 10, 2025 5:02am | Edited 5:14am
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I'll give an example of what I think would be a perfect entry for the system:

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We will classify this type of entry as a PA+ES entry (Price Action + Safe Stochastic)
In this case, our positive BE would have been triggered before reaching the required 1:2. It's up to the trader to choose the best option at any given time.
  • #54
  • Edited 8:27am Aug 10, 2025 7:52am | Edited 8:27am

Here are three examples of power candle entry. This is my favorite so far.

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  • #55
  • Edited 9:12am Aug 10, 2025 9:02am | Edited 9:12am



4,6% de rentabilidad en febrero de 2025

I also think that maybe 5M is too aggressive for this strategy, not because it isn’t effective, but because of commissions. Many times the BE is very close to the entry point and with commissions it would end up negative, something that happens in backtesting but with a lower commission. Solution? Trade on higher timeframes. I’d say 15M would be perfect

  • #56
  • Aug 10, 2025 10:45am Aug 10, 2025 10:45am
  •  amvt
  • Joined Feb 2025 | Status: Developer by Choice Trader by Heart | 202 Posts
Hello Members, I just subbed to to this forum because of the simplicity of the method. It looks interesting, but rules are not very clear as to how to enter and exit. Seems as if people have their own opinions and "filters" to this strategy.

I am a developer and trader by profession. If something can be coded, I'll do it. This seems like a mechanical strategy that I could back-test on a 7 year period and come up with solid evidence and test its statistical significance to boost other people's confidence on this strategy.

We can do refinements and other stuff later on, but for now, I would like to have a concise and clear rules of this strategy that can be coded.
— Developed by MMQ
  • #57
  • Edited 12:25pm Aug 10, 2025 10:55am | Edited 12:25pm
Hola miembros, me acabo de suscribir a este foro por la simplicidad del método. y comprobando su significancia estadística para aumentar la confianza de otros usuarios. Podemos hacer ajustes y otras cosas más adelante, pero por ahora, me gustaría tener reglas concisas y claras para esta estrategia que se puedan codificar.

Disculpen los comentarios desordenados. Es algo que se ha ido modificando y mejorando paso a paso. Según la descripción, así es como se realizará la operación.

La entrada será con la vela que rompa la EMA12, siempre que ésta sea fuerte (como máximo, la segunda vela).

El SL será el mínimo o máximo anterior y el TP tendrá un riesgo de 1:2 RR.

Fijaremos el BE una vez que el estocástico alcance el otro extremo, en el máximo o mínimo de la última vela que causó este movimiento (dependiendo de si es larga o corta). Si tienes alguna pregunta, pregúntame; es una estrategia muy mecánica.


Utilice BE cuando el precio alcance el 65% o 70% del movimiento


En las últimas imágenes de las publicaciones tenéis los mejores ejemplos.


Intentaré mostrarte algo de forma más visual. (La entrada siempre está al cierre de la vela)

  • #58
  • Edited 1:03pm Aug 10, 2025 11:33am | Edited 1:03pm

There’s a way to eliminate so many stop losses, but I’d say it’s impossible to scalp because of commissions. The idea is that when the stochastic touches the opposite extreme to our entry, set it to BE. The thing is, sometimes the price reacts slowly and when you set BE, the price has barely moved. But naturally, without commissions, the result for March is +14%

Tomorrow I’ll try this method to see how it works out

  • #59
  • Edited 3:55am Aug 11, 2025 3:01am | Edited 3:55am

BE. There is no reentry at the moment.

2nd entry the same, with the little that had been won from the 1st, the BE of the 2nd is lost. Tomorrow more


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  • #60
  • Aug 11, 2025 4:15am Aug 11, 2025 4:15am

EURUSD, however, behaved perfectly

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