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  • #50,181
  • Jul 14, 2025 3:17pm Jul 14, 2025 3:17pm
Quoting OutThere
I don't mean to be too negative but I doubt montygoldy is going to like trading with Darwinex based on his style.
I can promise you can i can do discplined trading as well.
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  • #50,182
  • Jul 14, 2025 3:48pm Jul 14, 2025 3:48pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} hey pip, Since the futures side has gradually turned to shit with rule changes and more denials, I completely changed up my approach to props..... I now run evals @ 25% dd risk (4 losses to bust) and do the same in funded to quickly get to payout thresholds.... as the account bal quickly grows the static position size risk per trade gradually reduces to more responsible levels, once around 6-7K bal the risk of busting the account is pretty much eliminated. my eval pass rate is around 66-70% and eval to payout threshold rate is around 40%.....
Forgot to ask on that 25%, you just do a hard 1:1, or do you go like 1:1.2 so you can pass in 4 as well, ie $2500DD to make 3K?
Do you copy trade or each account and/or firm running it's own risk?
  • #50,183
  • Jul 14, 2025 5:21pm Jul 14, 2025 5:21pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} well, I use the STF, so much different than most. I target $300-350 per day, so it can take up to 2 months on this type of account. Once 1st payout is cleared, 2nd one only requires 1/2 be made and then can withdrawal every 7 trading days, so 3 times per month. The STF is much more expensive, so I trade it as if max loss was my personal account. The approaches discussed earleir today can have you pass in 1 day and get paid the next if with a firm with no consistency or min trading days. Monty gets em done and paid much quicker than most.....all...
thanks alot bro, ur gold on this forum, i highly apreciate all your insight!
I am what Many Dream to be but only a few can achieve, im a part of the 1%
  • #50,184
  • Jul 14, 2025 5:22pm Jul 14, 2025 5:22pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Minimal time as possible.... FOr example - 50k account (if 1 day pass available then do it in same day or 40% then pass in max 3-4 days)... On funded - My target is 3k to ask for a payout... So i aim 1k for first two days (if losses then continue this approach until reach 2k profits) then rest of days go over the 3k target.
so u go all in, thats like gambling and hoping the gods will reward you, i thought you had a more methodical aproach based on stats.
I am what Many Dream to be but only a few can achieve, im a part of the 1%
  • #50,185
  • Jul 14, 2025 5:49pm Jul 14, 2025 5:49pm
Quoting Soros
{quote} so u go all in, thats like gambling and hoping the gods will reward you, i thought you had a more methodical aproach based on stats.
Actually, it's a great approach....assume a 5K personal account, risk 1-2% per trade ($50-100)......Monty buys an eval instead, one trade, if he wins instead of making the same $50-100 on personal, he is rewarded with $2,500 worth of DD. Reduce risk to meet consistency/min trading days, etc and get paid.
It's not gambling when you know your hit rate and you have the capital.
His rule is payouts fund future evals, he hasn't used his own money in a long time.........one you have a couple payouts it grows quick.
Bottom line is there are many ways to conquer.
  • #50,186
  • Jul 14, 2025 6:26pm Jul 14, 2025 6:26pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I can promise you can i can do discplined trading as well.
Can you wait 6 months, a year or maybe more for a payout that may not even cover your monthly subs? That's if you ever get to a payout. I'm 9 months in with 4 accts entered at various times and no payout yet.
You might not know this but the RE can cut the size of your trades to a fraction of the size in your underlying account. That is how they decide what kind of risk allocation your trading deserves. The account that I recently ditched was at 0.12 multiplier with 25% down in dz's eyes. 4-5% down in underlying. Was not worth keeping it any more. If it was 1:1 in position sizing, no problem bringing it back.
But ya, why not? Open an account and give it a try. It actually does teach you new ways of trading. It's like learning to juggle under torture. Lots of fun.
  • #50,187
  • Edited 8:43pm Jul 14, 2025 7:47pm | Edited 8:43pm
@montygoldy and @CableJ, I have not stopped here for awhile, but, I have to say...I did not understand WTF you were doing, but now I understood and want to complement you both on hustling like this and gaming the system. Beautiful, Bravo! That is the only way to really beat the crap out of these bucket shops...

Risk the f*cking admission fee to get that gambling on and hoping for a nice payout..I am getting some ideas among those lines, perhaps I can add this as my other strategy. Is there a manual for this hustle and can we scale it, if I will invest in you both? DM me if there is an opportunity.
  • #50,188
  • Edited 9:47pm Jul 14, 2025 8:55pm | Edited 9:47pm
Quoting Soros
{quote} so u go all in, thats like gambling and hoping the gods will reward you, i thought you had a more methodical aproach based on stats.
its not all in….. high risk for sure… the days for praying was gone 5 years ago after opening a trade….

i use 1 mini per trade and one trade at atime. Fixed sl of 300$ and min. Tp of 200…..

but my win percentage is more than 85%+++ so i am net profitable even after losing…. Yeah somedays emotion kick in and revenge trading for that i have fixed sl for the day i.e 1k:..:
the reason i sprint coz you never when a firm can change rules or out of the business so its pointless to grow slowly if you cant get a payout…..

stats for this year - so far averaging close to 10k a month where as evals average cost per month is below 1k (this no. Is high just coz of apex 20k50k tried 2 times this year otherwise would have been close to 500)

this is when i am not going all out yet with many firms at a time… i got promotion at my day job so way more busy….

also always learning n improving


Here is an example accounts - BGF holding since feb with mulitple payouts...

1. Check the first two payouts - First few weeks targeting 1k a day loss or profit.....
2. Once above threshold then trgetting 200$ a day for payout after payout....
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Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #50,189
  • Edited 9:18pm Jul 14, 2025 9:02pm | Edited 9:18pm
Quoting driven18
@montygoldy and @CableJ, I have not stopped here for awhile, but, I have to say...I did not understand WTF you were doing, but now I understood and want to complement you both on hustling like this and gaming the system. Beautiful, Bravo! That is the only way to really beat the crap out of these bucket shops... Risk the f*cking admission fee to get that gambling on and hoping for a nice payout..I am getting some ideas among those lines, perhaps I can add this as my other strategy. Is there a manual for this hustle and can we scale it,...
sorry brother i am simple trader and i would like to state that i wont recommend my way of doing prop business to anyone…

as i always say what works for me doesnot gurantee will work others…

i have fine tuned my risk apetite n everything related to trading by learning from mistakes for last 2 years….

plus i have a day job. Also i am not a god like trader to learn from instead what i always preach build a system according to your personality that will make you loads of money….
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #50,190
  • Jul 14, 2025 9:15pm Jul 14, 2025 9:15pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Can you wait 6 months, a year or maybe more for a payout that may not even cover your monthly subs? That's if you ever get to a payout. I'm 9 months in with 4 accts entered at various times and no payout yet. You might not know this but the RE can cut the size of your trades to a fraction of the size in your underlying account. That is how they decide what kind of risk allocation your trading deserves. The account that I recently ditched was at 0.12 multiplier with 25% down in dz's eyes. 4-5% down in underlying. Was not worth keeping it...
I want see some big number (either payouts or funding) from you or pip or maybe expo if he is still holding darwin.... Then i'll join you guys......
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #50,191
  • Jul 14, 2025 9:25pm Jul 14, 2025 9:25pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I want see some big number (either payouts or funding) from you or pip or maybe expo if he is still holding darwin.... Then i'll join you guys......
It'll be a while before you see some big number (either payouts or funding) from any on that list.
  • #50,192
  • Jul 14, 2025 10:20pm Jul 14, 2025 10:20pm
Just surfing found this bs from goat funding......

4.5k target on 50k account way to go with 50% consistency ...

No wonder they are the GOAT of BS
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  • #50,193
  • Jul 14, 2025 10:27pm Jul 14, 2025 10:27pm
Quoting Expo33
Bought a 50K advanced acct from Tradeify on Friday and passed last night after midnight PST. Dashbaord doesn't update until the next day so I'm assuming I won't get any emails about activation payment until tomorrow. Any insights from Tradeify users about funded accounts. Haven't heard about any payout issues.
Got my email after daily reset. $125 activation paid. Instant account credentials.

Countodown to blow up in 10, 9, 8..................
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  • #50,194
  • Jul 14, 2025 10:27pm Jul 14, 2025 10:27pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} It'll be a while before you see some big number (either payouts or funding) from any on that list.
I have 150K over 2 Darwins, will be 210K for August and just started a 3rd, making $300-400 per month, will double in August and then 3rd Darwin will be allocated as well. First one will be gold in 2-3 months, I'm expecting to do real well from that point on.
As I stated earlier in the day, I have a lofty goal of 5-7 MM AUM with this company. Here is the max scalability of my two darwins....first one is swing trading forex, second is day trading futures.
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  • #50,195
  • Jul 14, 2025 10:39pm Jul 14, 2025 10:39pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I have 150K over 2 Darwins, will be 210K for August and just started a 3rd, making $300-400 per month, will double in August and then 3rd Darwin will be allocated as well. First one will be gold in 2-3 months, I'm expecting to do real well from that point on. As I stated earlier in the day, I have a lofty goal of 5-7 MM AUM with this company. Here is the max scalability of my two darwins....first one is swing trading forex, second is day trading futures.{image}
That's great but monty said "I want see".
  • #50,196
  • Jul 15, 2025 12:52am Jul 15, 2025 12:52am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Can you wait 6 months, a year or maybe more for a payout that may not even cover your monthly subs? That's if you ever get to a payout. I'm 9 months in with 4 accts entered at various times and no payout yet. You might not know this but the RE can cut the size of your trades to a fraction of the size in your underlying account. That is how they decide what kind of risk allocation your trading deserves. The account that I recently ditched was at 0.12 multiplier with 25% down in dz's eyes. 4-5% down in underlying. Was not worth keeping it...
9 months no payout?? damn thats hectic mentally..are you funded on any of them yet?
I am what Many Dream to be but only a few can achieve, im a part of the 1%
  • #50,197
  • Jul 15, 2025 1:29am Jul 15, 2025 1:29am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} That's great but monty said "I want see".
i can see long term benefit of darwin… but why there is no big payouts out there.. in social media…

i remember last year all forex influencers started it and then abandon it ….
I dont have any doubt but what if you put in so much efforts and the company comes up with bs….
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #50,198
  • Jul 15, 2025 2:39am Jul 15, 2025 2:39am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} i can see long term benefit of darwin… but why there is no big payouts out there.. in social media… i remember last year all forex influencers started it and then abandon it …. I dont have any doubt but what if you put in so much efforts and the company comes up with bs….
Because real traders don't wave their dick at people on x.
  • #50,199
  • Jul 15, 2025 2:43am Jul 15, 2025 2:43am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Collectively, I have paid roughly $1400 for 30 months of subs in 4 accts. I have had allocations from 30K to 150K in various accounts but I've never made it to a payout. Even if you accumulate a payout, it is not payable until 3 months from the start date. If you get 'closed exposure' or get your current quote reduced due to dd, your rating reduced and the RE cuts your multiplier, then you start losing that accumulated payout. So, you better not. The highest accumulated payout I had was $685 . If I had closed all trades at that moment and...
why dont you just use normal prop firms bro? for me Darwinex is a no go zone, too much fluff and smoke.
I am what Many Dream to be but only a few can achieve, im a part of the 1%
  • #50,200
  • Jul 15, 2025 3:15am Jul 15, 2025 3:15am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Right now I am using AxiSelect. In 52 days I have made 35% plus I will be getting a cut from Axi when the current stage is done ($634 so far). It does put Darwinex to shame hands down. No freaking Risk engine. All trades are counted 1:1. No cutting my trades to a 0.12 multiplier, no omitting my trades as Darwinex does. It's really normal like it should be and I get respect like Experience=100% Anyways, next month I am going to start with FTMO and probably some others. The reason I am staying with Darwinex is because for my retirement...
God bless you bro!! first time hearing of Axi Select, it seems legit, ima get onto it!
I am what Many Dream to be but only a few can achieve, im a part of the 1%
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