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  • #8,601
  • May 19, 2025 8:28am May 19, 2025 8:28am
Quoting benadil
{quote} well if you want my opinion on lower time frames, no I dont agree for me they are noisier compared to higher time frames, again many will tell you the opposite, they will tell you no 1 minute price action is similar to monthly price action , thats why in this business people have different opinions, some trade breakouts and are profitable, some trade false breakouts and are profitable, some are scalpers and are profitable, some are swing traders and are profitable, so simplify RTM go to sapari in youtube, he speaks about SNDs SRS QM False...
Since you’ve been trading for years, I’d really love to see how you trade in the live market. If possible, could you share a few screenshots of live charts right now (e.g., with RTM labels like FL, QM, etc.) showing where you’re waiting to enter a trade, where the price hasn’t reached the zone yet? I want to see how you analyze and trade in the live market. Thanks!"
  • #8,602
  • Edited 9:17am May 19, 2025 9:01am | Edited 9:17am
Quoting Doue
{quote} Since you’ve been trading for years, I’d really love to see how you trade in the live market. If possible, could you share a few screenshots of live charts right now (e.g., with RTM labels like FL, QM, etc.) showing where you’re waiting to enter a trade, where the price hasn’t reached the zone yet? I want to see how you analyze and trade in the live market. Thanks!"
sorry i cant, and if I do it and win some trades or lose 3 or 4 in a row what would you tell? he is genious, he is a loser, the stratehy doesnt work, the staretgy is excellent? no it wont benefit you believe me, go to sapari in youtube he has plenty of examples though he is cherry picking, so unless you do your own trades by backtesting first, then you will judge whether your strategy will have chance to suceed in live markets. it is you versus you in this business.
since you are bringing experience into play, experience taught me to execute my plan, to be patient, it is normal to have losses, to have drawdowns, you cant predict whats happening next, having a winning trade or series of wins doesnt mean I am smart, and having a loss or series of losses doesnt mean I am at fault if I followed my plan.
so understand the strategy theoretically you want to apply, write down your plan entry criteria stop loss take profit levels and collect data and stats you will have all the feedback you need, forward test it for some 100 trades or so then you will have the best feedback, not me or anyone showing you his own trades or analysis, I myself wrong plenty of times and my win rate is not higher than 50 percent?
  • #8,603
  • May 19, 2025 9:53am May 19, 2025 9:53am
Hey everyone at Forex Factory!
I’ve got a raw chart for you with no timeframe or price, just the pure market structure. I’d love to hear how you’d read this chart:
1. If you saw this chart in a live market, which zone would you look to trade, and why?
2. What structure do you see in this chart? ( FL, QM, supply/demand zones,...
3. Where would you place your stop-loss and target?
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Please share your thoughts with details—like which zone or candle stands out to you and why. I’d really appreciate reading your analysis, and I hope others jump in to get a great discussion going!
Thanks to everyone who participates!
  • #8,604
  • May 19, 2025 10:05am May 19, 2025 10:05am
Quoting benadil
{quote} sorry i cant, and if I do it and win some trades or lose 3 or 4 in a row what would you tell? he is genious, he is a loser, the stratehy doesnt work, the staretgy is excellent? no it wont benefit you believe me, go to sapari in youtube he has plenty of examples though he is cherry picking, so unless you do your own trades by backtesting first, then you will judge whether your strategy will have chance to suceed in live markets. it is you versus you in this business. since you are bringing experience into play, experience taught me to execute...
thanks so much for your time and valuable guidance. I’ve posted a raw chart on Forex Factory . I’d love to hear your thoughts: If you saw this chart in a live market, which zone would you pick for a trade? What structure do you see (like FL, QM, supply ...
  • #8,605
  • May 19, 2025 10:58am May 19, 2025 10:58am
Quoting Doue
Hey everyone at Forex Factory! I’ve got a raw chart for you with no timeframe or price, just the pure market structure. I’d love to hear how you’d read this chart: 1. If you saw this chart in a live market, which zone would you look to trade, and why? 2. What structure do you see in this chart? ( FL, QM, supply/demand zones,... 3. Where would you place your stop-loss and target? {image} Please share your thoughts with details—like which zone or candle stands out to you and why. I’d really appreciate reading your analysis, and I hope others jump...
I dont know which TF is this chart but i would look for a trade around the orange rectangle given the chart you give , I might disregard that area if my top down analysis tells me the opposite, note sometimes even if that orange rectangle lines up with my top down analysis and direction it fails and sometimes even if it is against my top down analysis and direction bias it works perfectly, so direction and price action and market structure is subjective , those snd areas( ssr kinks,QM ,IQMS,...) are just areas that might give the best reward to risk if price tests them and reacts strongly from them thats all, no certainties there ,you manage your risk ,trade and emotions. thats the business of trading.
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  • #8,606
  • May 19, 2025 2:56pm May 19, 2025 2:56pm
Quoting benadil
{quote} I dont know which TF is this chart but i would look for a trade around the orange rectangle given the chart you give , I might disregard that area if my top down analysis tells me the opposite, note sometimes even if that orange rectangle lines up with my top down analysis and direction it fails and sometimes even if it is against my top down analysis and direction bias it works perfectly, so direction and price action and market structure is subjective , those snd areas( ssr kinks,QM ,IQMS,...) are just areas that might give the best reward...
"Thanks for checking out the chart and taking the time! I think this chart isn’t too useful for trading, since I saw the same points you did. If you have a raw chart or a specific forex pair ready and want to discuss it, I’m always energetic and ready to keep going."
  • #8,607
  • Edited 3:41pm May 19, 2025 3:21pm | Edited 3:41pm
Quoting Doue
{quote} "Thanks for checking out the chart and taking the time! I think this chart isn’t too useful for trading, since I saw the same points you did. If you have a raw chart or a specific forex pair ready and want to discuss it, I’m always energetic and ready to keep going."
Try to invest in a proper backtesting software.
Trading success doesn’t come from discussions or opinions — it comes from knowing your statistical edge. Backtesting gives you the confidence to execute your setups and to stay grounded when you face inevitable drawdowns.
Analyzing is the easiest part of any method. Execution is the hardest.
And by execution, I don’t mean the mechanics of placing a trade — I mean dealing with your emotional brain. Knowing your system inside out through backtesting and forward testing is the only way to build true confidence.
Don’t ask me to show charts or draw zones — my analysis is meaningless regardless of the outcome of any individual trade. What matters is:

  1. Can you handle 5 losses in a row?
  2. Can you sit through a 12% drawdown?
  3. After 5 straight losses, can you still take the 6th setup with full conviction?
    Or will you start looking for a new magical fix or a better strategy to “save” you from losses?

That’s the hardest part.
Without:

  1. Flawless execution,
  2. Emotional detachment from trade outcomes (win or lose),
  3. Detachment from your PnL,
  4. And full focus on following your process and rules,

…it’s impossible to be consistently profitable.
If you’re just starting out, you’ll understand this more clearly over time.
Ask ChatGPT what the likelihood is of getting 5 consecutive losses in a sample of 30 trades with a 50% win rate — you'll be shocked how probable it is. That realization alone might change how you view trading entirely.

  • #8,608
  • May 21, 2025 3:37am May 21, 2025 3:37am
Hello everyone,
I’ve marked two price zones (Zone 1 and Zone 2) on my chart.
Does anyone know which of these zones currently has active orders
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  • #8,609
  • May 25, 2025 10:49pm May 25, 2025 10:49pm
Quoting Doue
Hello everyone, I’ve marked two price zones (Zone 1 and Zone 2) on my chart. Does anyone know which of these zones currently has active orders {image}
origin transfers with compression but flag limit does not transfer with compression. Until new price action is formed our flag limit does not transfer. In this case, origin has been transfered but not flag limit because there is no new price action to transfer the flag limit.
We should know what price action is.
QM and DM are the price action.
Fakeout then Engulf is the Price Action.
Hope it helps.
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Market is Open University, Just have To Do PHD
  • #8,610
  • May 27, 2025 9:40am May 27, 2025 9:40am
Hello everyone, Let’s build a friendly space in this thread to share our live charts and analyses! Whether you’re a pro or just starting out, this is a no-ego zone—just pure analysis and learning.Please share your charts with a short explanation so we can discuss entry/exit points, trading ideas, and grow together. I believe most of us here are still working
  • #8,611
  • May 27, 2025 9:44am May 27, 2025 9:44am
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I'd love to hear your thoughts!
  • #8,612
  • May 27, 2025 9:51am May 27, 2025 9:51am
Quoting bishnuNewar
{quote} origin transfers with compression but flag limit does not transfer with compression. Until new price action is formed our flag limit does not transfer. In this case, origin has been transfered but not flag limit because there is no new price action to transfer the flag limit. We should know what price action is. QM and DM are the price action. Fakeout then Engulf is the Price Action. Hope it helps. {image}
Thanks for your comment. What do you think about my chart?
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  • May 28, 2025 6:00am May 28, 2025 6:00am
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  • May 28, 2025 11:55am May 28, 2025 11:55am
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  • #8,615
  • May 28, 2025 4:24pm May 28, 2025 4:24pm
Quoting Doue
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FTB
  • #8,616
  • May 29, 2025 1:41am May 29, 2025 1:41am
Quoting simjo
{quote}FTB
Hi simjo
I'm also of the same opinion as you
The reason is that we don’t have anything in the past chart to show whether it’s a reaction to an FL or not. If it’s a reaction to an FL, then the Swap FL becomes important for us. But here it’s just an SNR. I’m not sure if my reasoning is correct or not
  • #8,617
  • May 29, 2025 3:19am May 29, 2025 3:19am
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SL OR TP?
  • #8,618
  • Edited 11:14am May 29, 2025 8:02am | Edited 11:14am
Quoting Doue
{quote} Hi simjo I'm also of the same opinion as you The reason is that we don’t have anything in the past chart to show whether it’s a reaction to an FL or not. If it’s a reaction to an FL, then the Swap FL becomes important for us. But here it’s just an SNR. I’m not sure if my reasoning is correct or not
brother, it is good to ask questions about price, I was like you in the past trying to find out why price didnt respect this FL or this DP, why this lsk kink reversed price, why in the very similar setup this lsk fails, why price didnt reach this target, and on and on and on, only to find out that i was trying to control the market with the RTM method, which led to frustration in the end, the solution is to accept that nothing works all the time, otherwise you will be trapped years and years in discussing FLs, DPS, FTRs, SNRs,engulf, fakout,...., so again the key is to be humble like any professional trader and embrace uncertainty, yes you can design a statistical edge around FLS or simply SNDs which are simply a form of support and resistance that can provide good risk to reward, dont complicate your method, just draw snds add SNRs as confluence if you like, some subjective analysis about price structure, direction , and embrace uncertainty, you will realize that we place huge importance on entries, where the edge lies more on risk management , trade management, and mindset, and accepting the uncertainty of the market.
Price doesnt care at the end about RTM, your FLS, analysis, your directional bias, the way you see the market, or any other technical analysis, the edge is in your daily routine, following your process, your method, your execution, your mindset,.., so in your gold chart why that DP reversed price the one just above it failed? another time the one that failed could be the one that reversed price, and in an other time both of them will fail, you will never know the reason, but if you trust your method that you have backtested you will not be frustraed after hitting two losses in those FLs or DPs.
  • #8,619
  • May 30, 2025 12:28am May 30, 2025 12:28am
Quoting Doue
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zone over zone
  • #8,620
  • May 30, 2025 4:47am May 30, 2025 4:47am
Quoting benadil
{quote} brother, it is good to ask questions about price, I was like you in the past trying to find out why price didnt respect this FL or this DP, why this lsk kink reversed price, why in the very similar setup this lsk fails, why price didnt reach this target, and on and on and on, only to find out that i was trying to control the market with the RTM method, which led to frustration in the end, the solution is to accept that nothing works all the time, otherwise you will be trapped years and years in discussing FLs, DPS, FTRs, SNRs,engulf, fakout,....,...
True..and especially these last few months with idiot Trump tariff on/ tarrif off nonsense. Trying doing RTM on LTF when one of these announcements comes out the blue. Price will just smash through your levels with no respect whatsoever. Benadil gives an honest answer..don't look for perfection in RTM, it doesn't exist. You will waste years. Trust me, I've been down this RTM path before too. It's much better to focus on risk management as Benadil also says.

And as far as the engulf "secret signal" goes....do you REALLY think there's a few people at the top "in the know" sending each other these secret signals on the chart as it's way too illegal to be doing it over phone apps or email? What if they died? Wouldn't they need to pass this knowledge onto the next generation? Wouldn't this info eventually leak into public.."Yes, I was an RTM secret signal trader for years..here's my exclusive story"? Also, if they can have a DEFINITIVE signal for the engulf, why the hell can't they also have one for the extent of the retrace?

In today's market Trump could well be the "secret signal" provider. He's not smart enough to have it planted on charts but think about the potential to make money from his tweets (for those in the know..in his inner circle..that can be alerted just before a major tweet is released). That's just speculation of course as there's no way a POTUS would be involved in insider trading.
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