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  • #47,841
  • Apr 4, 2025 11:40am Apr 4, 2025 11:40am
Quoting navk
{quote} what is that exactly ?
its not about you dont worry. I noticed something about new participants.
  • #47,842
  • Apr 4, 2025 11:41am Apr 4, 2025 11:41am
Quoting pipmaster77
Have a huge buy limit on DOW @ 20,000
I prepare to buy the dip on S&P. But not for a while. I am ok to miss the ship
  • #47,843
  • Apr 4, 2025 12:03pm Apr 4, 2025 12:03pm
APEX Should come out with 90% off next week, considering the amount of people probably lost a bunch of accounts in these two days. LOL
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #47,844
  • Edited 4:35pm Apr 4, 2025 12:07pm | Edited 4:35pm
Quoting Zuke
Futures/Funded Elote are a scam. They spend their time desperately coming up with lots and lots of spurious reasons not to pay out. I am funded with Funded Elote (CFD) them but won’t be putting in any further effort to trade as they are incredibly duplicitous and untrustworthy imo. The quest to find a decent CFD prop to add to my FTMO and 5ers funded account continues. Sigh….. EDIT I’m also giving serious consideration to stepping back into the GENUINE prop form arena. A couple seem to be popping up now (RAEN is one example on the UK, several others...
Ryan was before with Apterostrading , now he left and founded Raentrading

https://x.com/baynkr

do you you know of any remote futures prop firms besides these 2 ?
  • #47,845
  • Edited 5:49pm Apr 4, 2025 4:54pm | Edited 5:49pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} its not about you dont worry. I noticed something about new participants.
i was thinking about brokers participation and prop firm participation or affiliates of prop firms who gets paid in this thread. Just a doubt only.

Once MFF was participant here, their Yuwaz seen my comment about failure of an eval for not my mistake.

He pulicly asked me to contact him thro discord.

I provided details to him in Discord.

He then made sure, i go to phase 2 directly.

It actuvally helps trader community if participating new members from prop firms have genuine thinking.
Intraday only.
  • #47,846
  • Apr 4, 2025 9:17pm Apr 4, 2025 9:17pm
Quoting procrude
APEX Should come out with 90% off next week, considering the amount of people probably lost a bunch of accounts in these two days. LOL
I want that as well.. Apex so slow with 90% + 85$ activation fee offer.... They did one once at the beginning of the year... Thats it......

I am patiently waiting for this offer to load 20 accounts... Otherwise, i dont want to spend a single breath on them....
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #47,847
  • Apr 4, 2025 11:13pm Apr 4, 2025 11:13pm
I personally love this volatile market.
  • #47,848
  • Apr 4, 2025 11:30pm Apr 4, 2025 11:30pm
People need to be aware of scams. We should include a warning: If someone decides to try a new, suspiciously cheap 'elite' firm with questionable headquarters, they should expect, at best, only a payout or two. And remember, you're also providing them with personal data—who knows how it could be used.
  • #47,849
  • Apr 4, 2025 11:38pm Apr 4, 2025 11:38pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I want that as well.. Apex so slow with 90% + 85$ activation fee offer.... They did one once at the beginning of the year... Thats it...... I am patiently waiting for this offer to load 20 accounts... Otherwise, i dont want to spend a single breath on them....
Hey
Apex Is on its way down.
Check trustpilot!
1 star increased a lot in last weeks!

I have 2nd payout request under review Since 2 days now. What are they reviewing I cannot really under stand since I already checkex all trades.in Journal and none of them break any rules!

Will let you know but most likely Money spent on Apex are wasted
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #47,850
  • Apr 4, 2025 11:52pm Apr 4, 2025 11:52pm
There is no doubt they are losing business due to all the new firms, but I am not sure that Trustpilot should be trusted. Anyone who doesn't understand the rules can leave a negative review, and it is probably easy to purchase positive ones too.
  • #47,851
  • Edited 12:17am Apr 5, 2025 12:06am | Edited 12:17am
My futures elite account/s update :

I recd 2 payouts. ( 2 x 1200 )
They denied 2 payouts. ( 2 x 1200 ) on Thursday.
My payouts 2x1200 due on 15/16 April will be denied.
My 5 x 50k funded accounts already suspended.
My profile / registration still active ( To receive more fees !!!! . lol )

The CEO says to me to forget anymore payouts.

The CEO saya kyc problem. See the kyc update below.

SCAM FIRM on top of the list.
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Intraday only.
  • #47,852
  • Apr 5, 2025 12:26am Apr 5, 2025 12:26am
One of my best Buddy in Discord ( his comments ) :

He has 5 x 50 with topstep

5 x 50 with tradeify

3 x 50 with Bulenox. ( 10x50 passed but not activated yet )

3 x 50 with apex. ( 10 x 50 passed but not activated yet )

He receives payouts at a lightning speed from Tradeify

He receives payout from Topstep , No issues.

He receives payout from Bulenox every wednesday. No issues.

His payouts got denied two times by Apex.

And now. I know the tricks to pass evals ( especially 50k ) though passing 150k needs little more patience and expertise.

I will go ahead with topstep as usual.

I will pay the activation fee to bulenox ( Passed long ago ) and to start funded acc trading.
Intraday only.
  • #47,853
  • Apr 5, 2025 12:51am Apr 5, 2025 12:51am
Go check Lanto and BrianStonk on X. They are getting regularly big payouts.
  • #47,854
  • Apr 5, 2025 12:55am Apr 5, 2025 12:55am
Quoting fx_rookie
There is no doubt they are losing business due to all the new firms, but I am not sure that Trustpilot should be trusted. Anyone who doesn't understand the rules can leave a negative review, and it is probably easy to purchase positive ones too.
I agree with you.
But few.weeks ago on trustpilot there were very few 1 star. Now increasing.
The problem Is on their rules. I read them again and again.
And again.
They are not clear!
DCA Is allowed or Is not? Because this Is not clear. They state It Is. But if you read carefully It Is not. Or Better, It Is of you Always DCA. But in my case I do It some times . Most of times my trades are clean SL or tp.
5:1 has to be respected on all trades or if I close some trader for 2 ticks I Will be denied a whole payout? And more, It Is stated as Sl / Tp but support told me It Is about floating drawdown and profit. So, what Is true? They also said if some times you close the trade for few ticks they are ok.
My strategy works for a 1 tò 20 contracts. If I am confidente on a trade I go for a bigger size, But that Is not a windfall. I Simply got market behavior and hit with a bigger size. That Is perfect on a scalping strategy with AVG duration few minutes. .. .but Is It ok or not ? Om trading rules this Is not clear at all.
Looks like depending on Who reviews your account you Will be confirmed or denied.....
But

I am stubborn.

They Will pay me out! This or next time or the other.
Will not leave there 12k with the great stats I had in last weeks.

And meanwhile I Will go for another firm
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #47,855
  • Apr 5, 2025 1:04am Apr 5, 2025 1:04am
You are absolutely right, but almost every other firm will have unclear rules, allowing them to deny a payout.

Quote
My strategy works for a 1 tò 20 contracts
That strategy in not good to use in Apex. I do not like this, but this is how it works. They do not like big size changes (probably because of Martingale). This is probably the reason to be denied.
  • #47,856
  • Apr 5, 2025 1:11am Apr 5, 2025 1:11am
Forgot
They denied my prev payout but I do not know the reason.
I susoect It Is because 1 trade (out of 300 maybe) went drawdown 35% because a Spike in price got my SL filled lower. But the trade was closed, did not l'et It running. In their rules they state the 30% Is not and hard beach rule, It Is tò be considered as a warning.
So?
Asked them to give me reasons for denial but they did not give me any.
Simply AI answers telling there Is a long queue and there Will be tò wait for that.
Does this make any Sensei?

Last payout periodo had no beach of 30%, no High risk trades, if I went bigger size, my SL was far less than the 30%. There are few trades below the 5:1 rules because market did not give me clear sign so I closed them and most cases reloaded later.

Almost perfect 8 days.

Waiting them to approve or I Will publish everything
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #47,857
  • Apr 5, 2025 1:15am Apr 5, 2025 1:15am
They are like the insurance business - will try to find a reason to not to pay you.
  • #47,858
  • Apr 5, 2025 1:16am Apr 5, 2025 1:16am
Quoting fx_rookie
You are absolutely right, but almost every other firm will have unclear rules, allowing them to deny a payout. {quote} That strategy in not good to use in Apex. I do not like this, but this is how it works. They do not like big size changes (probably because of Martingale). This is probably the reason to be denied.
Nobody likes that. I know It Is risky.
But so then why allow 17contracts of then you do not actually allow them?
Just give a fixed size and that's It.
17contracts Is Just pure illusioni btw.
But 1 tò 5 or even 10 Is ok on a scalping strategy where max loss Is max 1100/1200$.
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #47,859
  • Apr 5, 2025 1:18am Apr 5, 2025 1:18am
It is designed to fail you. It is not a charity.
  • #47,860
  • Apr 5, 2025 1:19am Apr 5, 2025 1:19am
Anyway
Will give It April tò execute 1 trade a day.
Loss or profit.
Will try tò get 8 winning days of course.
Till the point they Will have no 1 single reasons to deny.

Lol

Maybe they will fail in the meantime
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
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