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  • #14,481
  • Mar 20, 2025 6:01am Mar 20, 2025 6:01am
Quoting juceoma
{quote} i trade with the big trend.
I think I get it now… you trade with the trend but you do quick scalps by entering and exiting your trades quickly. Before I thought you hold them and keep adding but you get in and get out and do not hold all your positions for long and that’s why you don’t care about when the trend ends because your out each time after a few pips.
  • #14,482
  • Mar 20, 2025 6:04am Mar 20, 2025 6:04am
Quoting PipsArt
Wowwww..... I was very surprised after not logging into ff for so long, it turns out you are still looking for the holy grail by trying new things, changing settings and replacing existing indicators. Even though this system is very good. I am now not use stoploss any more but cost averaging (Following KOF original suggestion) {image} {image}
so what do you do in a trend that goes on and on?.. it’s good when it returns to the ema’s and your in profit. But what happens when it returns to the ema’s after it’s had a huge long trend where you have just added and added position after position.. what do you do then?
  • #14,483
  • Mar 20, 2025 6:08am Mar 20, 2025 6:08am
Quoting PipsArt
Wowwww..... I was very surprised after not logging into ff for so long, it turns out you are still looking for the holy grail by trying new things, changing settings and replacing existing indicators. Even though this system is very good. I am now not use stoploss any more but cost averaging (Following KOF original suggestion) {image} {image}
Nice to see you again!
  • #14,484
  • Mar 20, 2025 6:51am Mar 20, 2025 6:51am
Quoting CM-PunkFX
{quote} so what do you do in a trend that goes on and on?.. it’s good when it returns to the ema’s and your in profit. But what happens when it returns to the ema’s after it’s had a huge long trend where you have just added and added position after position.. what do you do then?
Yes I just keep adding, because I know market will go back to MAs soon .

I read a few pages back, it turns out that Gringo explains the function of 200ma. Very good explanation and I agree.
Because 200ma has a very important role in the KOF system.
Why?
Because the KOF system is only based on the distance of price with MAs.
  • #14,485
  • Mar 20, 2025 7:04am Mar 20, 2025 7:04am
Quoting Mr.Moe
{quote} Nice to see you again!
Keep practice, don't give up.
  • #14,486
  • Mar 20, 2025 7:47am Mar 20, 2025 7:47am
I observe the previous oscillations, and until they reach the average pip oscillation I do not enter and for now it prevents me from entering into large trends, in case it helps anyone.
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  • #14,487
  • Mar 20, 2025 7:53am Mar 20, 2025 7:53am
Quoting PipsArt
{quote} Yes I just keep adding, because I know market will go back to MAs soon . I read a few pages back, it turns out that Gringo explains the function of 200ma. Very good explanation and I agree. Because 200ma has a very important role in the KOF system. Why? Because the KOF system is only based on the distance of price with MAs.
I prefer to see it as the EMA's returning to price. This monster of a trend put a dent in my progress. When it will next appear?

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  • #14,488
  • Mar 20, 2025 8:00am Mar 20, 2025 8:00am
Quoting javipenjamo
I observe the previous oscillations, and until they reach the average pip oscillation I do not enter and for now it prevents me from entering into large trends, in case it helps anyone. {image}
can u tell me please the name of this indicator?
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  • #14,489
  • Mar 20, 2025 8:09am Mar 20, 2025 8:09am
Quoting juceoma
{quote} ¿Podrías decirme el nombre de este indicador? {image}
ea folder
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  • #14,490
  • Mar 20, 2025 9:26am Mar 20, 2025 9:26am
Quoting PipsArt
Wowwww..... I was very surprised after not logging into ff for so long, it turns out you are still looking for the holy grail by trying new things, changing settings and replacing existing indicators. Even though this system is very good. I am now not use stoploss any more but cost averaging (Following KOF original suggestion) {image} {image}
is not looking for the holy grail, is trying to not get caught on a big trend, thats why i just put a filter with the 5min trend
  • #14,491
  • Mar 20, 2025 9:42am Mar 20, 2025 9:42am
Quoting PipsArt
{quote} Yes I just keep adding, because I know market will go back to MAs soon . I read a few pages back, it turns out that Gringo explains the function of 200ma. Very good explanation and I agree. Because 200ma has a very important role in the KOF system. Why? Because the KOF system is only based on the distance of price with MAs.
Oh I know it 100% will go back to the ema 200 in the end…. But what happens when it goes back to the 200 ema but your at a big lose?… you close at a lose?… how many times can you keep closing at a lose?
  • #14,492
  • Mar 20, 2025 9:50am Mar 20, 2025 9:50am
Quoting PR31D
{quote} I prefer to see it as the EMA's returning to price. This monster of a trend put a dent in my progress. When it will next appear? {image}
I think this is one example of a long trend yes… so if this comes up what are we to do?… just keep adding and adding?… I mean how do we know if it’s not gonna go up another 100-400%? I mean you can’t just keep adding trades.
  • #14,493
  • Mar 20, 2025 10:00am Mar 20, 2025 10:00am
Quoting CM-PunkFX
{quote} Oh I know it 100% will go back to the ema 200 in the end…. But what happens when it goes back to the 200 ema but your at a big lose?… you close at a lose?… how many times can you keep closing at a lose?
In earlier day of my trading days,
I always get caught in the big trend, after trying and trying, I finally know when to trend trade and when to counter. If you watch the video from kof, he said you have to keep practicing until you get used to the market movement.
  • #14,494
  • Mar 20, 2025 10:06am Mar 20, 2025 10:06am
I like this system, same as KOF idea, play with price distance from MA.

Actually it was a good trend trade, but my first trade I was counter so I must manage it

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I added more, because the distance was decreasing and the volume decreasing also.
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Closed all, price return to 200ma
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  • #14,495
  • Mar 20, 2025 10:08am Mar 20, 2025 10:08am
Quoting juceoma
{quote} is not looking for the holy grail, is trying to not get caught on a big trend, thats why i just put a filter with the 5min trend
Still using the 5 RSi and the Bollinger Bands?
  • #14,496
  • Mar 20, 2025 10:11am Mar 20, 2025 10:11am
Quoting PipsArt
{quote} In earlier day of my trading days, I always get caught in the big trend, after trying and trying, I finally know when to trend trade and when to counter. If you watch the video from kof, he said you have to keep practicing until you get used to the market movement.
I believe you are correct practice does make better… but can you be a but more specific or explain a bit more because no matter how many times you practice if you don’t know a exit strategy then it will just be the same whenever you hit a long trend. I mean you say you use to get caught in huge trends too but now you have a method to follow whenever you see this happen… so can you give us some more insight in how you do it?
  • #14,497
  • Mar 20, 2025 10:13am Mar 20, 2025 10:13am
Quoting PipsArt
{quote} In earlier day of my trading days, I always get caught in the big trend, after trying and trying, I finally know when to trend trade and when to counter. If you watch the video from kof, he said you have to keep practicing until you get used to the market movement.
i m practicing for few moths, could you please give some idea abou when to trade trend or not
  • #14,498
  • Mar 20, 2025 10:21am Mar 20, 2025 10:21am
Quoting BDfx77
{quote} i m practicing for few moths, could you please give some idea abou when to trade trend or not
And I’ve been practicing for 2 years whenever I have time yet I still get caught in long trends because they happen everyday. For example everyday we come on this forum and everyone shows their way of trading using this strategy. Some keep to the original indicators, some change it a little and all these methods are great to learn about. But the biggest factor nobody talks about and that’s what to do when you get caught in a huge trend. Some just say you can’t do nothing because it happens and some say they have mastered it. But the average traders are asking those that have mastered it how to save yourself or what to do on a huge trend. Yet there’s never any answers. We can all go back and watch KOF videos 24 hours a day but if you don’t shed a bit of light fro us it won’t matter how many millions of times we watch them.
  • #14,499
  • Mar 20, 2025 10:43am Mar 20, 2025 10:43am
i lost 3200 with this strategy,and all in one big trend... i follow all the rules but when the trend is coming..no one tell you what to do. not pipsart, not this gringo scammer, no one..
i think with this strategy we need to have at least 10.000 account and not to trade on the first monday and friday of the month.

i have a feeling that every individual on this forum that say this strategy works and NOT SAY HOW IT WORKS,HOW TO HAVE AN EXIT PLAN or something, and just put on your eyes their profits,with account cut to not see i dont know what... its like all are one account or idk. they do sh!t for this forum but they are big cohones winners...

keep trying guys. its a must!
  • #14,500
  • Mar 20, 2025 11:12am Mar 20, 2025 11:12am
Quoting axelgr
i lost 3200 with this strategy,and all in one big trend... i follow all the rules but when the trend is coming..no one tell you what to do. not pipsart, not this gringo scammer, no one.. i think with this strategy we need to have at least 10.000 account and not to trade on the first monday and friday of the month. i have a feeling that every individual on this forum that say this strategy works and NOT SAY HOW IT WORKS,HOW TO HAVE AN EXIT PLAN or something, and just put on your eyes their profits,with account cut to not see i dont know what... its...
Yes friend, this system have a lot of hidden IF........
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