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  • #721
  • Jan 31, 2025 11:47am Jan 31, 2025 11:47am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} You pos don't even understand what 'trading all pairs in all directions' was in reference to. It's about the more instruments/markets you trade, the higher risk you take on and therefore you are considered a risky trader determind by the risk engine. And I was saying, that's not true. Trading in multiple instuments is designed to lower risk. It's diversifying risk upon more instruments of possible oposing nature. Your fish brain hasn't evolved enough to understand yet.
This isn't a stock portfolio you stupid monkey.

Wait, I better diversify my trading and start trading exotic pairs during Wednesday's rollover to mitigiate my risk.

Honestly, I didn't realize just how stupid you are.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #722
  • Jan 31, 2025 5:57pm Jan 31, 2025 5:57pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} This isn't a stock portfolio you stupid monkey. Wait, I better diversify my trading and start trading exotic pairs during Wednesday's rollover to mitigiate my risk. Honestly, I didn't realize just how stupid you are.
Get lost and shoved your stock portfolio nonsense up your tight spandex.
I did realize how stupid you are
  • #723
  • Edited 6:44pm Jan 31, 2025 6:08pm | Edited 6:44pm
Quoting pipmaster77
Darwin back in biz....finished calibration last Friday....will receive allocation for Feb....will add the 100K , goal to hit 5% within 2 months, so I will have 2 separate payouts every quarter. {image}
Congrats. Hole in one for both of us.
My 1st allocation...sweet.
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  • #724
  • Jan 31, 2025 7:42pm Jan 31, 2025 7:42pm
My stock portfolios diversifying my trading and trading exotic pairs during Wednesday's rollover to mitigate my risk.
The last one is the special EXPO tight spandex model.
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  • #725
  • Edited 9:50pm Jan 31, 2025 9:37pm | Edited 9:50pm
For the 1st account on the list, based on the risk engine, .18% is all that I have made so far.
reality is 5% profit and a 4% recovered DD in underlying.
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I'm posting this for traders that think their trading in their platform is anything like the reality after passing through the risk engine.
You are only getting paid a 15% after the risk engine spits out your 'certified' trading record according to itself.
I don't even qualify to get 15% of .18% lol.
  • #726
  • Jan 31, 2025 9:52pm Jan 31, 2025 9:52pm
Quoting OutThere
For the 1st account on the list, based on the risk engine, .18% is all that I have made so far. reality is 5% profit and a 4% recovered DD in underlying. {image} I'm posting this for traders that think their trading in their platform is anything like the reality after passing through the risk engine.
Good thing the average trader isn't a moron.

They can see their real time Darwin quote and know that it won't be the same as the platform.

In addition, they might have actually done the tiniest bit of research on how this works or possibly listened to the answers given by those that have been using Darwinex for quite some time.

Or they could be like you with one thumb in their ass and the other one in their mouth.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #727
  • Jan 31, 2025 9:57pm Jan 31, 2025 9:57pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Good thing the average trader isn't a moron. They can see their real time Darwin quote and know that it won't be the same as the platform. In addition, they might have actually done the tiniest bit of research on how this works or possibly listened to the answers given by those that have been using Darwinex for quite some time. Or they could be like you with one thumb in their ass and the other one in their mouth.
Speaking of thumb in the ass, that is quite a pose you posted of yourself bent over in spandex screaming of pain. Perfect for an 80's gay vid cassette. Good job.
BTW, with all the money you are making, do us a favor and fill that ugly gap between your teeth. Might make your piranha face a bit less disgusting to look at.
  • #728
  • Edited 10:30pm Jan 31, 2025 10:17pm | Edited 10:30pm
I'm trying to make 10% + 6% gain and a less than 5% dd in my underlying account to equal a prop challenge pass.

Then I want to compare commissionable gain and the related payouts (if any) less sub fees with how much I would get from a prop from there on.

Obviously if prop beats Darwinex, then it will be rofl. lol
  • #729
  • Feb 1, 2025 12:17am Feb 1, 2025 12:17am
Quoting Expo33
Done for the month. 6th allocation in a row coming. Won't need to earn anything in February for the 7th. Performance fees sitting at $720 with one month to go before payout. Subscription fees: IRRELEVANT Risk engine: IRRELEVANT OutThere's bitching and moaning: IRRELEVANT 0.5 risk is more than enough to accomplish all of my goals {image}
Time for a little education.

So I just got the updated rating for February and it fell all the way from 87.22 down to 71.96

Obviously a big factor has to do with the previous 5 months return. The sexy 6.5% that I earned in August falls out of the equation for my 5 month return which in turn dropped the rating way more than it has in previous months.

Basically meaningless to me as I only need to earn 0.75% to keep the consecutive allocation train in check.

I always wondered how the rating from recalibrated. Now I have an answer
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  • #730
  • Feb 1, 2025 1:53am Feb 1, 2025 1:53am
So disgusting to see ur name on my page.
DO NOT QUOTE ME OR COMMENT ON ANYTHING RELATED TO ME.
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  • #731
  • Edited 4:36am Feb 1, 2025 4:25am | Edited 4:36am
Hello Darwinex Professionals.

I have now received my first allocation and I would have to generate 1.15% in February to get a rating of 75 again.

How would you proceed if you had already achieved that in the middle of the month? Would you wait until the end of the month and not touch the trading account again?

Or does it make sense to continue trading with very small position sizes in order to put the risk engine in a positive mood? Because if I understood @EURsniper correctly the risk engine doesn't like abrupt changes in position sizes.

Best regards, Chris
  • #732
  • Feb 1, 2025 8:27am Feb 1, 2025 8:27am
@ChrisGER,it depends what is your trading technique.If you are scalper then you can behave like this to secure allocations serially,but if you are algo trader or swing trader stopping trading to keep allocation doesn't make sense.
Priority should be to build credible trackrecord over 2-3 years and attract much bigger money from investors.You will never amass 1 mil. in allocations from Darwinia,but with nice 3-year trackrecord,you can reach 1 mil. mark in 6 months after investors "discover" your darwin. And depending on your performance after and darwin's Capacity,you can get 3-5 mil. AUM later.
Playing with Risk Engine the way you mentioned is nice until you hit bad period(draw-down) with much lower VaR% than what your Risk Profile would actually merit.Than your normal DD,becomes much bigger. Leverage cuts both ways.
If you do it only to lower your VaR% back to normal after you did something stupid,than that's maybe OK,but otherwise you are setting yourself for a big DD.
I have impression some traders treat Darwinia as prop garbage and then trade like maniacs during first few months to exploit uninformed Risk Engine, constantly restarting their darwins or playing games with Risk Engine.They will never reach 3-year mark and become credible with investors.
  • #733
  • Edited 9:12am Feb 1, 2025 9:00am | Edited 9:12am
Up/Down, Up/Down, Up/Down. My algo basically just crept along for the month. Went into a 'pinching' drawdown and started to climb out of it. It was pretty Meh even though Jan. should have been OK to about a 2%+ upside. The month started out on the downside for GBPUSD. It never really found its footing and mostly whipsawed. One news trade blew through the SL and gave me a loss for 2X normal ($1308). Ughhh... A gut punch but I've earned at least 3X that in 'positive' slippage.

BAD NEWS/GOOD NEWS: Bad - Ended the month with a slight <1% loss that DIDNT HAVE TO HAPPEN. Good - I know what happened: Mid Jan GBPUSD traded choppy and my system only had a few opportunities to exit the trade before the spike. BOTH exits were blocked by my News -Filter. Luckily I'm always running a 'What-If' version on my desktop with slightly different settings and saw the exits that were missed and the spike I would have missed completely. Oooof....

I adjusted the settings and BINGO the recovery began. GBPUSD has seen little action since going into DD so I expect it to redeem itself before the full smarty sequence ends but for now slight DD. I forecast Jan to be weak and only good for a couple percent since the new year always starts slow.

On my Darwin its 'Mid' performance earned me another 30K allocation mostly thanks to my previous months performance. The new 30K replaces my Nov 3-month allocation that falls off (90K active). So basically a 'reset' for Feb. with an improved algo. It was actually encouraging watching the algo fight back and 'almost' refuse to lose for the month from digging out of a near -3% hole. Feb should return the algo to proper positive form.
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  • #734
  • Feb 1, 2025 9:26am Feb 1, 2025 9:26am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Congrats. Hole in one for both of us. My 1st allocation...sweet. {image}
OMG!! CONGRATS!! - Beautiful stats to start! - Nice low DD. Contest entry off the Rip! Lovely Gold future setup.
  • #735
  • Feb 1, 2025 9:26am Feb 1, 2025 9:26am
Quoting EURsniper
@ChrisGER,it depends what is your trading technique...
Thank you @EURsniper for your insights. I also see this in the long term. At the beginning I certainly didn't understand DZero and I also restarted my first account. After a DD the signal account was already positive again, but not the Darwin. Maybe I understand the game better now. I think DZero has nothing against scalpers, but the positions just have to be much smaller than I would trade with my own account. Let's see how it goes in February.
  • #736
  • Feb 1, 2025 9:35am Feb 1, 2025 9:35am
Quoting Chris.GER
Hello Darwinex Professionals. I have now received my first allocation and I would have to generate 1.15% in February to get a rating of 75 again. How would you proceed if you had already achieved that in the middle of the month? Would you wait until the end of the month and not touch the trading account again?
If you've landed the 30K allocation you can def YOLO the first month. Trade your system. - You still have 2 months left to play it 'safe'. I tried to use that first month to earn a larger than 75 allocation. In the 1st of the 3 months I'm more risky but if I were on the last month of my 3-month allocation (and hadnt earned any new ones) I might stop and lock-in a new 3-month allocation.
  • #737
  • Feb 1, 2025 1:44pm Feb 1, 2025 1:44pm
Quoting OutThere
So disgusting to see ur name on my page. DO NOT QUOTE ME OR COMMENT ON ANYTHING RELATED TO ME. {image}
Looks like you made another stinky in your diapers

I'll continue to exercise my right to free speech.

Of course I know your a Trudeau commie fanboy
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #738
  • Feb 3, 2025 6:44am Feb 3, 2025 6:44am
What do you feel about Darwinex instant allocation? Is it worth purchasing? And I guess I can use it after calibration phase. Is it worth it?

Secondly - in order to purchase instant allocation I need the pass the calibration phase. After calibration pass - can I purchase one instant allocation or more than one for one account? Or there is no need to pass calibration phase?

With instant funding I mean that, I will choose 5% target:

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Is there an advantage for triannual payment for instant funding? Or other advantages other than cheaper price?

Lastly - Is there any way to make money in a shorter time with darwinex?

Thank you.
  • #739
  • Feb 3, 2025 6:56am Feb 3, 2025 6:56am
Quoting deroty
What do you feel about Darwinex instant allocation? Is it worth purchasing? And I guess I can use it after calibration phase. Is it worth it? Secondly - in order to purchase instant allocation I need the pass the calibration phase. After calibration pass - can I purchase one instant allocation or more than one for one account? Or there is no need to pass calibration phase? With instant funding I mean that, I will choose 5% target: {image} Is there an advantage for triannual payment for instant funding? Or other advantages other than cheaper price?...
Everything depends on your trading ability, you have to pass the calibration stage on any new account, first account and then again on any other accounts. Instant funding is different to the 5% target funding. There is no triannual payments for instant funding, instant funding is a once only payment, the darwinex payment is a subscription.

Not sure what you mean by is there a way to make money in a shorter timeframe, lol we all wish that
Pip Goes The Weasel
  • #740
  • Feb 3, 2025 7:18am Feb 3, 2025 7:18am
Quoting adrazz
{quote} Everything depends on your trading ability, you have to pass the calibration stage on any new account, first account and then again on any other accounts. Instant funding is different to the 5% target funding. There is no triannual payments for instant funding, instant funding is a once only payment, the darwinex payment is a subscription. Not sure what you mean by is there a way to make money in a shorter timeframe, lol we all wish that
Hi Adrazz.

Thank you for the reply.

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