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  • #481
  • Dec 1, 2024 6:48am Dec 1, 2024 6:48am
Pardon my hand drawing...
If this is an equity chart, Darwinex pays 15% of the profit gained during the thick green lines.
The accumulated gains add up overtime.
Since not everyone is able to keep accumulating gain, some fall behind and lose their place in the order of gains.
Some keep adding to it month after months and therefore gain higher places in the ranking.
That's all.

If someone wants to get ahead, they need to lengthen the green lines and shorten the red ones.
That's what everyone is trying to do.
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  • #482
  • Dec 1, 2024 7:02am Dec 1, 2024 7:02am
Quoting OutThere
Some keep adding to it month after months and therefore gain higher places in the ranking. That's all... {image}
Soooo, just like INFLATION every year? Got It!
  • #483
  • Edited 8:48am Dec 1, 2024 8:03am | Edited 8:48am
Quoting BlackOpz
{quote} Soooo, just like INFLATION every year? Got It!
Yes but lets add 25% tariff to that for good measure.

I drew that cause I read hayseed is so very excited about the risk engine.
To me all that the risk engine is doing is keeping the trades within the Var. My trades naturally fall low in the range and the few that exceed, it cuts out. Not that big a deal.
I pulled my hair out over it as everybody knows but now, I'm ignoring it. In fact if I had ignored it from the beginning, it wouldn't have made any difference.
All I need to do, like I said is to have longer green lines in my equity and shorter red ones and everything will fall into place. I don't see how the risk engine could help me with that.
Maybe hayseed could elaborate on how risk engine is helping him make more money?
  • #484
  • Dec 1, 2024 12:20pm Dec 1, 2024 12:20pm
Quoting BlackOpz
The Darwinex Advantage: Starting the month already qualifying for 30K. LOVE how much the system weights prior performance. What Have You Done For Me Lately!? {image}
Yeah my rating dropped down to 74.31 for December so I have to earn a whopping 0.17% to get that 5th allocation in a row.

My earnings don't show up yet so I can't do the KYC thingy yet. Maybe it will show up Monday? Pipmaster might knnow that answer.

It's interesting that my position jumped up like 300 spots. Maybe a bunch of traders ahead of me went on to the Gold level?
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  • #485
  • Dec 1, 2024 3:55pm Dec 1, 2024 3:55pm
Quoting OutThere
Maybe hayseed could elaborate on how risk engine is helping him make more money?
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please keep in mind money is not my goal with darwin...... not at all.....

since inception, my mq5 account has made 126,597$ or 12.66%...... my darwin return is 13.15%..... 1315/1266 .......i have talked of tracking that ratio elsewhere.....

so even at the most basic comparison, darwin is out producing me on my own trades...... at one point darwin results were running 2 times my results.....

now if we subtract my mq5 account earnings where i went well beyond darwins var saturation point, darwin is producing 50% than me on my trades..... and to be fair we should subtract any mq5 account gains where i went beyond conservative risk......

noticed i have my 90k now..... december should be a good month.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #486
  • Dec 1, 2024 6:00pm Dec 1, 2024 6:00pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Yeah my rating dropped down to 74.31 for December so I have to earn a whopping 0.17% to get that 5th allocation in a row. My earnings don't show up yet so I can't do the KYC thingy yet. Maybe it will show up Monday? Pipmaster might knnow that answer. It's interesting that my position jumped up like 300 spots. Maybe a bunch of traders ahead of me went on to the Gold level? {image}
Yes, first thing that will light up green will be receive performance fees, then they will ask for KYC....I did a DL and a bank statement. Then you will provide a withdrawal method....I did bank wire, you requested in EUR and Bank of America hosed me on the spread , paid me at like 1.02, when EURUSD was 1.08, talk about shitty spread. So, they give you the option of requesting USD and I would imagine they do the conversion....I'll try that next payout to see if conversion is better.
Not really an issue with the samll withdrawals now, but could be a significant difference on larger WD later.

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  • #487
  • Dec 1, 2024 7:02pm Dec 1, 2024 7:02pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, first thing that will light up green will be receive performance fees, then they will ask for KYC....I did a DL and a bank statement. Then you will provide a withdrawal method....I did bank wire, you requested in EUR and Bank of America hosed me on the spread , paid me at like 1.02, when EURUSD was 1.08, talk about shitty spread. So, they give you the option of requesting USD and I would imagine they do the conversion....I'll try that next payout to see if conversion is better. Not really an issue with the samll withdrawals now, but...
Thanks. That's what I figured. So far no earnings activated. Probably Monday
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #488
  • Dec 1, 2024 10:25pm Dec 1, 2024 10:25pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //------ please keep in mind money is not my goal with darwin...... not at all..... since inception, my mq5 account has made 126,597$ or 12.66%...... my darwin return is 13.15%..... 1315/1266 .......i have talked of tracking that ratio elsewhere..... so even at the most basic comparison, darwin is out producing me on my own trades...... at one point darwin results were running 2 times my results..... now if we subtract my mq5 account earnings where...
I think since your account is in profit, the risk engine seems favorable to you. If in loss, it can exasperate the negative effect on the account. It has pain and pleasure built into it. It sure hurts when it's on the pain mode.
  • #489
  • Dec 1, 2024 10:59pm Dec 1, 2024 10:59pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I think since your account is in profit, the risk engine seems favorable to you. If in loss, it can exasperate the negative effect on the account. It has pain and pleasure built into it. It sure hurts when it's on the pain mode.
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you probably don't remember the the guy on hee haw that kept going to see doc campbell and would say, 'doc it hurts when i do this'......

the doc would just whop him upside the head and say, "well then don't do that".......

yeah, i know, it's a hayseed joke......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #490
  • Dec 3, 2024 5:14am Dec 3, 2024 5:14am
Wow check out YYRP
  • #491
  • Dec 3, 2024 7:32am Dec 3, 2024 7:32am
extended to existing members......h
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to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #492
  • Dec 3, 2024 8:23am Dec 3, 2024 8:23am
Hi. I do not know if you use that but I started using this:

"restart on crash"

If Metatrader crash or you accidentaly close Metatrader, it checks every time if it is open or not and if Metatrader is closed, restarts again. I verified and tested: It auto starts Metatrader.

We need to make sure our vps works 24/7 .

May be most of you knew that.
  • #493
  • Dec 3, 2024 11:23am Dec 3, 2024 11:23am
Quoting Expo33
It's interesting that my position jumped up like 300 spots. Maybe a bunch of traders ahead of me went on to the Gold level?
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noticed in a email something about silver members moving to gold, but could not find the full list.....

now's a good time to play with the rating calculator...... surely it must have to do with month being so young.......

looks like making just 4% would land me in the top 5...... lol...... fat chance of that......

time to roll up your sleeves......h
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to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #494
  • Dec 3, 2024 7:40pm Dec 3, 2024 7:40pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //------ noticed in a email something about silver members moving to gold, but could not find the full list..... now's a good time to play with the rating calculator...... surely it must have to do with month being so young....... looks like making just 4% would land me in the top 5...... lol...... fat chance of that...... time to roll up your sleeves......h //------ {image} //----- {image}
But you don't want investors.
Are you going to close yourself to investors?
  • #495
  • Dec 3, 2024 8:54pm Dec 3, 2024 8:54pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} But you don't want investors. Are you going to close yourself to investors?
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good question...... have not looked into whether or not that is possible or how would darwin respond..... investors bring in a lot of responsibility.....

true investors would make me feel compelled to work too hard to please them......

500k in silver funding alone would be investor enough for me..... there are several here are capable of 500k++......

all your doing is summing monthly returns......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #496
  • Dec 4, 2024 11:55am Dec 4, 2024 11:55am
My experience was similar to what pipmaster already stated about his first DZero withdrawal

24 hours to verify my identity

24 hours to verify my bank details

Requested wire transfer today. Going forward any withdrawals will be a simple click.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #497
  • Dec 4, 2024 12:07pm Dec 4, 2024 12:07pm
My risk adjustment factor has been at .34 for nearly 2 months. In that time I traded one position only of UJ between 2 - 2.5 lots.

Just noticed today that my risk went up to 0.44. I'm liking that! I'm celebrating by selling some Euro which I'll close before Powell speaks.

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  • #498
  • Dec 4, 2024 7:13pm Dec 4, 2024 7:13pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //----- good question...... have not looked into whether or not that is possible or how would darwin respond..... investors bring in a lot of responsibility..... true investors would make me feel compelled to work too hard to please them...... 500k in silver funding alone would be investor enough for me..... there are several here are capable of 500k++...... all your doing is summing monthly returns......h
You and I, Pipmaster, BlackOpz.....
Can't think of anyone else.
  • #499
  • Dec 4, 2024 7:44pm Dec 4, 2024 7:44pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} You and I, Pipmaster, BlackOpz..... Can't think of anyone else.
Sheva, Shyean, Expo have all received payouts I believe. That rounds out everyone I am aware of.
  • #500
  • Dec 5, 2024 2:05pm Dec 5, 2024 2:05pm
Quoting Expo33
My risk adjustment factor has been at .34 for nearly 2 months. In that time I traded one position only of UJ between 2 - 2.5 lots. Just noticed today that my risk went up to 0.44. I'm liking that! I'm celebrating by selling some Euro which I'll close before Powell speaks. {image}
Risk adjustment is now at 0.49. This is absolutely perfect. All hail to the risk engine. You are worthy of my worship!!
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
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