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  • #44,281
  • Nov 10, 2024 3:33am Nov 10, 2024 3:33am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I must admit I don’t understand how you you can earn 4 times more compared trading your own account?
You have to use Darwinex to understand. 'Risk engine' caddy evaluates your trades and reduce or multiply your trades....bla bla The rest up to you to figure out.[/quote]

I have used Darwinex over ten years. I have been using Zero since it was launched. I have had and curremtly have several allocation from investors and from Zero. Not millions but small allocations. I still can’t figure out how I can multiple my retutns compared to trading my own account. If you have a such a miracle formula, please share it or maybe just keep the discussion in facts.
  • #44,282
  • Nov 10, 2024 4:05am Nov 10, 2024 4:05am
Quoting kalastaja
{quote} You have to use Darwinex to understand. 'Risk engine' caddy evaluates your trades and reduce or multiply your trades....bla bla The rest up to you to figure out.
I have used Darwinex over ten years. I have been using Zero since it was launched. I have had and curremtly have several allocation from investors and from Zero. Not millions but small allocations. I still can’t figure out how I can multiple my retutns compared to trading my own account. If you have a such a miracle formula, please share it or maybe just keep the discussion in facts.[/quote]






You understand that what you make in your mt4 or whatever you use isn't going to be identical to your Darwin account. Right?
You understand that the risk engine adjusts your position sizes up and down according to Var? Right?

Would you understand if I told you that according to my view of risk I should be trading for example a 1 lot size?
That is what I have tested and decided.

Would you understand that my Darwinex acct on average multiplies that 1 lot by 4?

How about the conclusion?

If I trade my own account, according to my rules, I would make 1 lot times profit per lot. Correct?
If I trade my money as an investor, the risk engine multiplies my trades and therefore my profits increase by 4 times?


Is it that hard?
I just started not even a month ago. Why do I have to explain that to someone who has been there 10 years?


Sure I can in my own personal account trade 4 lots instead of 1.
But the risk changes all the time and I'm not a 1 trade a day type of trader.
So I trade conservatively as hell in my own account and let the Darwin risk manager take my trades to town and fatten them up.
All that for a mere service charge of 5%? Not bad.

Just nod if you can hear me.
  • #44,283
  • Nov 10, 2024 6:59am Nov 10, 2024 6:59am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I have used Darwinex over ten years. I have been using Zero since it was launched. I have had and curremtly have several allocation from investors and from Zero. Not millions but small allocations. I still can’t figure out how I can multiple my retutns compared to trading my own account. If you have a such a miracle formula, please share it or maybe just keep the discussion in facts.
You understand that what you make in your mt4 or whatever you use isn't going to be identical to your Darwin account. Right? You understand that the risk engine adjusts your position sizes up and down according to Var? Right? Would you understand if I told you that according to my view of risk I should be trading for example a 1 lot size? That is what I have tested and decided. Would you understand that my Darwinex acct on average multiplies that 1 lot by 4? How about the conclusion? If I trade my own account, according to my rules, I would make 1 lot times profit per lot. Correct? If I trade my money as an investor, the risk engine multiplies my trades and therefore my profits increase by 4 times? Is it that hard? I just started not even a month ago. Why do I have to explain that to someone who has been there 10 years? Sure I can in my own personal account trade 4 lots instead of 1. But the risk changes all the time and I'm not a 1 trade a day type of trader. So I trade conservatively as hell in my own account and let the Darwin risk manager take my trades to town and fatten them up. All that for a mere service charge of 5%? Not bad. Just nod if you can hear me.[/quote]

Sorry to say but that doesn’t make any sense. You really should go back to basics and learn how Dzero works. Not gonna waste my time on this.
  • #44,284
  • Nov 10, 2024 7:25am Nov 10, 2024 7:25am
Quoting kalastaja
{quote} You understand that what you make in your mt4 or whatever you use isn't going to be identical to your Darwin account. Right? You understand that the risk engine adjusts your position sizes up and down according to Var? Right? Would you understand if I told you that according to my view of risk I should be trading for example a 1 lot size? That is what I have tested and decided. Would you understand that my Darwinex acct on average multiplies that 1 lot by 4? How about the conclusion? If I trade my own account, according to my rules, I would...
Sorry to say but that doesn’t make any sense. You really should go back to basics and learn how Dzero works. Not gonna waste my time on this.[/quote]

Good idea.
  • #44,285
  • Nov 10, 2024 8:32am Nov 10, 2024 8:32am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} for me personally is revenge trading and meltdown where a average loss days becomes thrice in size ……….i need to Stop… probably as i am saying need a full restriction on either tp or sl whichever hits first ….
are you still 6 loss to bust on live accounts?
  • #44,286
  • Edited 11:47am Nov 10, 2024 8:50am | Edited 11:47am
Hello, so here are my 2025 First Quarter Goals.


20 Apex - 150K Accounts - Already have 3 funded.
5 Topstep - 150K Accounts - Already have 2 funded.
3 MyFundedFutures - 150K Expert Accounts
1 FXIFY - 400K Forex Account
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #44,287
  • Nov 10, 2024 9:10am Nov 10, 2024 9:10am
Quoting procrude
Hello, so here is my Project 2025 {image}
Impressive goal.

All the very best.

I think FXIFY will launch @ Black Friday.

Need to keep eyrs open for active promotions.
Intraday only.
  • #44,288
  • Nov 10, 2024 11:43am Nov 10, 2024 11:43am
Quoting procrude
Hello, so here is my Project 2025 {image}
And I made $1,000,000 last month, made $1,000,000 last
week and I'm going to make $1,000,0000 this week
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  • #44,289
  • Nov 10, 2024 12:56pm Nov 10, 2024 12:56pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} are you still 6 loss to bust on live accounts?
What you mean by 6 loss??
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #44,290
  • Nov 10, 2024 2:51pm Nov 10, 2024 2:51pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} What you mean by 6 loss??
you mentioned in the past that it would take 6 or so losses in a row to blow a live account.
  • #44,291
  • Nov 10, 2024 2:58pm Nov 10, 2024 2:58pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} No problem, it's what I do. And it's not "brother". Sir or Colonel works. Thanks cupcake! Amazing that a rich country like the UAE is worried about citizens withdrawing 2-3K.
if this is what you do then you must be a crazy old man
  • #44,292
  • Nov 10, 2024 4:24pm Nov 10, 2024 4:24pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} What you mean by 6 loss??
yes..... when its a meltdown first ther is loss.... then try to recover the loss in one shot more loss then try to recover slowly one small win then again more loss ... thats how it goes till its blown...
My problem is time in case of prop firms i dont want to miss any payout cycle lol....
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #44,293
  • Nov 10, 2024 4:25pm Nov 10, 2024 4:25pm
Quoting procrude
Hello, so here are my 2025 First Quarter Goals. 20 Apex - 150K Accounts - Already have 3 funded. 5 Topstep - 150K Accounts - Already have 2 funded. 3 MyFundedFutures - 150K Expert Accounts 1 FXIFY - 400K Forex Account
You haver a plan youll get it for sure.... keep up the good work.......... timing can be faster or slower but eventually you'll get it......
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #44,294
  • Edited 6:02pm Nov 10, 2024 5:49pm | Edited 6:02pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} for me personally is revenge trading and meltdown where a average loss days becomes thrice in size ……….i need to Stop… probably as i am saying need a full restriction on either tp or sl whichever hits first ….

but thats your trading style. and with this you are successful and push you to new targets.
so any of this is just a part of the trading costs (dont see it as losses ) to get the wins.

so i would hold the path when all together runs ok, you never planed for stable wins, only get fast and save step by step up....

i accept also in my trading styles a lot of losses because of wrong trades (wrong symbol traded, wrong size, wrong direction, wrong prize... ). just to be fast. so this are for me just additional trading costs for execute my trading style and strategies.

so when you trade like you do, you will come from time to time to this losses and they remind you again and again do it the way you planed it. so this losses as reminder that you do it fine like you do , are worth a lot of money. hard to see first, but makes sense after long time. so never be angry that this can happen, just use it in your favor because its part of the game you master already so well.
  • #44,295
  • Nov 10, 2024 7:25pm Nov 10, 2024 7:25pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} but thats your trading style. and with this you are successful and push you to new targets. so any of this is just a part of the trading costs (dont see it as losses ) to get the wins. so i would hold the path when all together runs ok, you never planed for stable wins, only get fast and save step by step up.... i accept also in my trading styles a lot of losses because of wrong trades (wrong symbol traded, wrong size, wrong direction, wrong prize... ). just to be fast. so this are for me just additional trading costs for execute my trading...
I agree with most of it ... But the key is to always improve and get better and better.....Thats how its been my prop firm trading... figure out whats the blockers eventually take them out based on my personality.... TO help out limit the losses thats why i always go with DLL accounts..... But i need to control emotions come to point of 1:1 loss/profits days..
I am trying to improve to aim for either 400-500 tp or loss a day n stop at that point.....

Thats the example of second longest running prop account i.e MFFU (30 days) after apex 150k (48 days). DLL saved me on those meltdown days. Otherwise i am pretty sure i would have blown coz either on these my analysis is total wrong and biased on wrong side + emotional revenge trading
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  • #44,296
  • Nov 10, 2024 11:22pm Nov 10, 2024 11:22pm
Quoting procrude
Hello, so here are my 2025 First Quarter Goals. 20 Apex - 150K Accounts - Already have 3 funded. 5 Topstep - 150K Accounts - Already have 2 funded. 3 MyFundedFutures - 150K Expert Accounts 1 FXIFY - 400K Forex Account
If You wanna handle more, let me handle for you!!!
  • #44,297
  • Edited 1:55am Nov 11, 2024 1:04am | Edited 1:55am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} If You wanna handle more, let me handle for you!!!
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Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #44,298
  • Nov 11, 2024 1:38am Nov 11, 2024 1:38am
Hello , i was just demo testing Ctrader vs Mt5 , taking 50-80 lots on same broker , i noticed slippage of around 0.4-0.5 pips on Ctrader while no Slippage on Metatrader , can anyone tell me why is that

On Ctrader was getting filled at VWAP with some slippage , while on Mt5 , it was instant with no slippage
  • #44,299
  • Edited 5:41am Nov 11, 2024 3:02am | Edited 5:41am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Actual footage of procude's accounts if he lets you "handle" them {image}
At least this kind of flame is good in winter and will benefit us
  • #44,300
  • Nov 11, 2024 5:21am Nov 11, 2024 5:21am
Quoting atom696
Hello , i was just demo testing Ctrader vs Mt5 , taking 50-80 lots on same broker , i noticed slippage of around 0.4-0.5 pips on Ctrader while no Slippage on Metatrader , can anyone tell me why is that On Ctrader was getting filled at VWAP with some slippage , while on Mt5 , it was instant with no slippage
I have heard about this before , which broker you use ?
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