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  • #21
  • Oct 17, 2024 2:00pm Oct 17, 2024 2:00pm
Quoting kette
learn by yourself

you can't read that's your problem

have you ever acted for real

Lol, you picked a bad example, there, for your nonsense.

Q spent about 10 years at a hedge-fund, as risk manager and trainer of graduate-entry professional trainees, so you might find that (evidently unlike yourself) he actually knows what he’s talking about. But it’s a free society: we all choose who we want to listen to and whose advice to take!
  • #22
  • Oct 17, 2024 2:59pm Oct 17, 2024 2:59pm
Quoting redfan
Well, I can identify accumulation I can put it on the chart with a box around it and wait for it to break, I've now got to learn when it breaks to the manipulation stage I need to learn where I put my lines for the distribution stage, Traders who are visiting this site if any of you know this part of it please could give me some idea on how to work out the manipulation stage and the distribution stage, I look at the 4-hour candle first to get The daily trend but I don't know which small time frame to work I've tried the five thirty and one hour,...
More importantly, how does one determine whether the next big move would be a markup or markdown after an accumulation/distribution? Any clues from Wyckoff?
  • #23
  • Oct 17, 2024 3:02pm Oct 17, 2024 3:02pm
Quoting Zennie
{quote} More importantly, how does one determine whether the next big move would be a markup or markdown after an accumulation/distribution? Any clues from Wyckoff?
Study the graphic and I have already mentioned how Wyckoff determines this.

redfan has also provided links to further study.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #24
  • Oct 17, 2024 5:49pm Oct 17, 2024 5:49pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} Lol, da hast du dir für deinen Unsinn ein schlechtes Beispiel ausgesucht. Q hat etwa 10 Jahre bei einem Hedgefonds gearbeitet, als Risikomanager und Trainer für Berufseinsteiger, also wirst du vielleicht feststellen, dass er (offenbar anders als du) tatsächlich weiß, wovon er spricht. Aber wir leben in einer freien Gesellschaft: Wir alle entscheiden, wem wir zuhören und wessen Rat wir annehmen wollen!
Hello
he can also be chancellor, i'm not interested.
or gardener .
on my chart I only showed the example that you can't recognise any of this.
everyone can interpret it as they wish.
but i don't need any help
I wish you something
  • #25
  • Oct 17, 2024 10:50pm Oct 17, 2024 10:50pm
Quoting Zennie
{quote} More importantly, how does one determine whether the next big move would be a markup or markdown after an accumulation/distribution? Any clues from Wyckoff?
It doesn’t matter either way, just trade the breakout if it’s strong in momentum - cut it quick if it fails.
Generally about 78% of breakouts follow the current trend.

So trust the trend basically
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #26
  • Oct 18, 2024 6:35am Oct 18, 2024 6:35am
Did anyone get these trades this morning,
I set them up Last night and then completely forgot about them I got completely distracted,
For me that just about sums up trading If I would have checked the forex calendar this morning I would have made a nice bag of money,
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GB news went up all over
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  • #27
  • Oct 18, 2024 6:44am Oct 18, 2024 6:44am
I've just been looking at those four charts and I've just noticed something can you see the little blue numbers on the candle
I believe that it is the UK opening time it might be worth watching next week,
I've got the indicator for that somewhere I'll put it on here later on if anyone wants it,
  • #28
  • Oct 18, 2024 6:48am Oct 18, 2024 6:48am
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  • #29
  • Oct 18, 2024 9:28am Oct 18, 2024 9:28am
Quoting redfan
{file} {file}
OCR LO - Opening Candle Range London Open

Gives a small line under open & close of candle and the range in pips of that candle open to close, you can also name the session.

You can place indicator more than once.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #30
  • Oct 18, 2024 10:09am Oct 18, 2024 10:09am
A risk manager trains traders? Probably only on day one. lol
  • #31
  • Oct 18, 2024 10:39am Oct 18, 2024 10:39am
The indicator with the little blue numbers As now got my attention
because I like patterns and I see one other pattern in this EUR/USD I've gone right back to the start of the week every single one of them HAD a fake-out to the upside and then all carried on going down following the trend
Apart from today's it just carried going up so it Could be going to turn next week, something to look out for again next week So if you're a Gambling Man you won't take the fake you wait for it to turn depending on the trend,
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  • #32
  • Oct 18, 2024 10:46am Oct 18, 2024 10:46am
Just watch out for the fakes out where it goes up twice because you may have put the sell-on and your stop loss might be too close
Where it goes up a second time
  • #33
  • Edited 12:35pm Oct 18, 2024 10:56am | Edited 12:35pm
Quoting redfan
The indicator with the little blue numbers As now got my attention because I like patterns and I see one other pattern in this EUR/USD I've gone right back to the start of the week every single one of them HAD a fake-out to the upside and then all carried on going down following the trend Apart from today's it just carried going up so it Could be going to turn next week, something to look out for again next week So if you're a Gambling Man you won't take the fake you wait for it to turn depending on the trend, {image}
Apart from the 2 Fridays, market was making new daily lows.
Bigger picture can help with direction.

Watch the pullbacks around 50% before trend continues, buying & selling at a discount.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #34
  • Oct 18, 2024 9:37pm Oct 18, 2024 9:37pm
Quoting redfan
The indicator with the little blue numbers As now got my attention because I like patterns and I see one other pattern in this EUR/USD I've gone right back to the start of the week every single one of them HAD a fake-out to the upside and then all carried on going down following the trend Apart from today's it just carried going up so it Could be going to turn next week, something to look out for again next week So if you're a Gambling Man you won't take the fake you wait for it to turn depending on the trend, {image}
Hi Redfan

Your'e been watching my charts haven't you?

I took about 4 of those trades myself on EURUSD on breakout of those boxes (I use different tools) and took profits every time till the last one where I got stopped out.
I trade them three ways.

First method is to trade the breakout to the next consolidation level.
Second method is to STAY IN and ADD additional trades at breakouts.
Third Method is to trade the pullback candle patterns with the reversal sell on the fakeout.

Check out BTCUSD on the 1 hour time frame for great rewards.
In my opinion, best time frames are the 2 Minute chart or the 1 hour chart for these setups.

All good trends start from ZERO Volatility

Cheers
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #35
  • Oct 19, 2024 2:14pm Oct 19, 2024 2:14pm
The answer to that is no I've not been watching your chart this is the first time I've come across you, I like your method of trading, and I like the third one trading with the reverse sell on the fake out

could you tell me where I would find this BTCUSD I'm currently on MT4
I've had a look for it but can't find it,
  • #36
  • Oct 30, 2024 11:54am Oct 30, 2024 11:54am
Quoting redfan
Well, I can identify accumulation I can put it on the chart with a box around it and wait for it to break, I've now got to learn when it breaks to the manipulation stage I need to learn where I put my lines for the distribution stage, Traders who are visiting this site if any of you know this part of it please could give me some idea on how to work out the manipulation stage and the distribution stage, I look at the 4-hour candle first to get The daily trend but I don't know which small time frame to work I've tried the five thirty and one hour,...
thanks for sharing
A lot of spiers, just using your trading ideas and your files, and they never post or give you any feed back, one of them even subcribed to me but they never said anythin they just keep a secret watch on you lol
I IGNORED him out of my way.lol
""TP is whatever you can get before it goes against you.""
  • #37
  • Oct 30, 2024 2:08pm Oct 30, 2024 2:08pm
Yes, I understand that, It was a bit disappointing that no one came back over page 32 with a bit of feedback but perhaps it was no good Anyway,
I did try it this week I had two wins with real money out of the seven boxes, and six of them won
I like patterns and I've just come across another one, The only trouble is I would have to be up at 2 a.m. or even later depending on when the candle Cross the Line, So I was thinking of pending orders then I realised that wasn't going to work either So it's back to watching what the pattern does,
I might even put it on to see if anyone can spot a pattern and how to trade it.

HERE PICTURES OF WINS
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  • #38
  • Oct 30, 2024 2:33pm Oct 30, 2024 2:33pm
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These patterns already played out today,
how would you trade these to win?
  • #39
  • Oct 30, 2024 2:36pm Oct 30, 2024 2:36pm
This one was the best one of the lot it may give you a clue
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  • #40
  • Nov 4, 2024 8:23am Nov 4, 2024 8:23am
I just want to thank everyone who chipped in and give me some Tips two week ago the markup and Markdown in between the accumulation and the distribution was great advice
Thanks everyone,
The picture shows my results from last Friday and today. Only a couple of pence From the 50 pound per day I want to earn ,
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