Accumulation, manipulation, distribution | Forex Factory

Options

Go to
Permalinks
Print Thread

Similar Threads

Help building EA for Accumulation / Distribution 2 replies

Accumulation & Daily Pivots 2 replies

Retrieving values from (Accumulation / distribution) indicator 1 reply

static variable accumulation on open 7 replies

Accumulation/Distribution patterns.... 0 replies

Attachments: Accumulation, manipulation, distribution
Exit Attachments

Accumulation, manipulation, distribution

  • #1
  • First Post: Oct 16, 2024 10:43am Oct 16, 2024 10:43am
Well, I can identify accumulation I can put it on the chart with a box around it and wait for it to break,

I've now got to learn when it breaks to the manipulation stage
I need to learn where I put my lines for the distribution stage,

Traders who are visiting this site if any of you know this part of it please could give me some idea on how to work out the manipulation stage and the distribution stage,

I look at the 4-hour candle first to get The daily trend but I don't know which small time frame to work I've tried the five thirty and one hour,
Thank you to anyone who can give me this bit of advice,
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: OR IS THIS.png Size: 38 KB
  • #2
  • Oct 16, 2024 11:29am Oct 16, 2024 11:29am
Quoting redfan
Well, I can identify accumulation I can put it on the chart with a box around it and wait for it to break, I've now got to learn when it breaks to the manipulation stage I need to learn where I put my lines for the distribution stage, Traders who are visiting this site if any of you know this part of it please could give me some idea on how to work out the manipulation stage and the distribution stage, I look at the 4-hour candle first to get The daily trend but I don't know which small time frame to work I've tried the five thirty and one hour,...
Accumulation is where the Market is absorbing Sell Orders to push Prices higher and the Opposite for Distribution where the market is absorbing Buy Orders to push prices lower.
Manipulation is when the market throws a fake breakout from these zones, Wyckoff calls this a "Spring".
The Price push is Mark Up or Mark Down, which can be manipuation if there is a significant previous High or Low nearby.

Rapid Moves are more associated with Red News Events or World Events or even CB speeches.
Which you should avoid as you cannot tell which way it could go.

Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: Wyckoff Cycle (2).png Size: 41 KB
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #3
  • Oct 16, 2024 11:41am Oct 16, 2024 11:41am
Accumulation and distribution apply to stocks, of which there are necessarily a limited number available in circulation.

This is the single, key concept to understand, before you can start to appreciate why accumulation and distribution don’t apply at all to the situation of betting on the price-movements of CFD’s against a counterparty "broker" without any currencies actually changing hands when you "trade."
  • #4
  • Oct 16, 2024 11:42am Oct 16, 2024 11:42am
A first member is pointing out ICT power of three, while a second one is pointing out Wyckoff market cycle.
With courage, patience, and discipline, success is a matter of time.
  • #5
  • Oct 16, 2024 12:13pm Oct 16, 2024 12:13pm
Quoting Quickly
Accumulation and distribution apply to stocks, of which there are necessarily a limited number available in circulation. This is the single, key concept to understand, before you can start to appreciate why accumulation and distribution don’t apply at all to the situation of betting on the price-movements of CFD’s against a counterparty "broker" without any currencies actually changing hands when you "trade."
Wyckoff Cycle applies to all Markets as it is more grounded in the psychology of trading.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #6
  • Oct 16, 2024 12:54pm Oct 16, 2024 12:54pm
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone for their input and time,
I've been setting it up like this
I've been putting the accumulation BOX on about
11 p.m. UK time,
I think I've got that part right, I'm looking for action at 8:00 AM UK
With a bit of adjustment to the boxes,
I've put four charts on to see if you've got Any comments
But again thank you.
Attached Image(s) (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: UJ10.png Size: 37 KB
Click to Enlarge Name: GJ8.png Size: 20 KB
Click to Enlarge Name: GC6.png Size: 20 KB
Click to Enlarge Name: EC3.png Size: 17 KB
  • #7
  • Oct 16, 2024 12:59pm Oct 16, 2024 12:59pm
I will show you what I do later on tonight with the boxes when I Set them out,
  • #8
  • Oct 16, 2024 1:36pm Oct 16, 2024 1:36pm
Quickly’s post is actually the one you need to read and understand, that can help you out most, by re-orientating your thinking. IF you’re willing to open your mind and think about what he’s telling you and why. But you haven’t yet started doing that.

What is it, do you imagine, that’s being "accumulated" or "distributed" when you bet against a counterparty on the price of their own CFD product without currencies changing hands?

You need to know the answer to that question and understand it, before you can learn anything, in this context, that can help you to trade profitably.

All the information above about Wyckoff is entirely correct, but it can’t actually help you with what you’re asking about, until you understand what Quickly was telling you in his post.
  • #9
  • Oct 16, 2024 3:05pm Oct 16, 2024 3:05pm
WYCKHOFF
you have to recognize accumulation and distribution.
my trade .my chart could also be distrbution , much later you realize what it is.
all theories.

who says where manipulation is taking place.
Attached Image(s) (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: USDCHFH4.png Size: 24 KB
Click to Enlarge Name: Wyckoff Cycle 11.jpg Size: 84 KB
  • #10
  • Oct 16, 2024 5:11pm Oct 16, 2024 5:11pm
I'm in the very early stages of learning this I've been on this site since 2011
Here are four charts I've set up tonight In boxes that I believe to be accumulations I'm still learning
The pictures of your chart are fascinating you say it could be distribution or accumulation
And now you pointed it out I agree with you, I will see what they look like at 8.00 am UK
once again thanks for your advice.
Attached Image(s) (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: gbpusd 16.png Size: 31 KB
Click to Enlarge Name: eurnzd16.png Size: 30 KB
Click to Enlarge Name: gbpaud 16.png Size: 29 KB
Click to Enlarge Name: gbpcad16.png Size: 29 KB
  • #11
  • Oct 17, 2024 2:10am Oct 17, 2024 2:10am
Quoting kette
WYCKHOFF you have to recognize accumulation and distribution. my trade .my chart could also be distrbution , much later you realize what it is. all theories. who says where manipulation is taking place. {image} {image}
Wyckoff cycles are pretty powerful toolsto identify zones of accumulation and distribution and trend, but they are useless on timeframes lower than 1H. The best application in my view is on daily and weekly timeframes
  • #12
  • Oct 17, 2024 2:31am Oct 17, 2024 2:31am
Quoting redfan
I'm in the very early stages of learning this I've been on this site since 2011 Here are four charts I've set up tonight In boxes that I believe to be accumulations I'm still learning The pictures of your chart are fascinating you say it could be distribution or accumulation And now you pointed it out I agree with you, I will see what they look like at 8.00 am UK once again thanks for your advice. {image} {image} {image} {image}
There is a 2 hour Gap between US Markets Close 10pm (GMT) and Tokyo Open , although NZ & AUS may be open the volume is mostly light, hence the consolidation. Best observed with GMT +2 charts, as the Sunday Candles are eliminated.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #13
  • Oct 17, 2024 4:48am Oct 17, 2024 4:48am
Quoting pizd0s
{quote} Wyckoff cycles are pretty powerful toolsto identify zones of accumulation and distribution and trend, but they are useless on timeframes lower than 1H. The best application in my view is on daily and weekly timeframes

Hello
D1 chart 50:50
to be honest, my purchase is based on buyer volume.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: USDCHFDaily.png Size: 25 KB
  • #14
  • Oct 17, 2024 4:54am Oct 17, 2024 4:54am
Quoting kette
{quote} Hello D1 chart 50:50 to be honest, my purchase is based on buyer volume. {image}
sir can you education Wyckoff
I don't know when I enter buy or sell
  • #15
  • Oct 17, 2024 5:00am Oct 17, 2024 5:00am
Quoting majidmas
{quote} sir can you education Wyckoff I don't know when I enter buy or sell
you need software for this
to see who buys or sells and where
  • #16
  • Oct 17, 2024 5:40am Oct 17, 2024 5:40am
Quoting kette
{quote} you need software for this to see who buys or sells and where
Every transaction has one buyer and one seller. Where one party buys, another sells.

OMG, it’s really painful, trying to help people here.

Wyckoff was writing (over 100 years ago) about stocks, NOT forex.

Stocks have a fixed, limited supply and can be accumulated and distributed.

This doesn’t apply at all to the situation of betting on the price-movements of CFD’s against a counterparty "broker" without any currencies actually changing hands when you "trade."

However many people ask questions about Wyckoff, and however many answers they get, and whether the answers are right or wrong, there isn’t a way to change that.

It’s factual.
  • #17
  • Oct 17, 2024 6:09am Oct 17, 2024 6:09am
The first thing I want to do is to thank Quickly, Shabs19, Karlkraus, and Pizd0s

I am starting to understand some great information. Accumulation is not what it seems. I've started by moving up to the one-hour and four-hour periods,

I've also taken a picture. Of Wyckoff market cycle, It's a clever tool And it's something Everyone trying to use this method needs, I've checked my broker and I am 2 hours behind I thought I was only one hour behind but I am two so once again thank you for the effort you put in and your time thank you very much
Have a great day.
  • #18
  • Edited 6:55am Oct 17, 2024 6:31am | Edited 6:55am
Quoting Quickly
{quote} Jede Transaktion hat einen Käufer und einen Verkäufer. Wo eine Partei kauft, verkauft eine andere. OMG, es ist wirklich schmerzhaft, den Leuten hier zu helfen. Wyckoff schrieb (vor über 100 Jahren) über Aktien, NICHT über Devisen. Aktien haben ein festes, begrenztes Angebot und können angesammelt und verteilt werden. Dies gilt überhaupt nicht für die Situation, in der man auf die Preisbewegungen von CFDs gegen einen Gegenpartei-„Broker“ wettet, ohne dass beim „Handeln“ tatsächlich Währungen den Besitzer wechseln. Egal, wie viele Leute Fragen...
hello
you don't have to help anyone ???
learn by yourself


you can't read that's your problem

have you ever acted for real
  • #19
  • Oct 17, 2024 7:18am Oct 17, 2024 7:18am
Wyckoff Schematics: Visual templates for market timing decisions

put this in search at the top right of the page
a lot of reading
  • #20
  • Edited 1:24pm Oct 17, 2024 9:56am | Edited 1:24pm
Quoting redfan
Wyckoff Schematics: Visual templates for market timing decisions put this in search at the top right of the page a lot of reading
In consolidation zones, there is a lot of activity, mostly unseen by retail, between Buyers & Sellers until you have that Breakout & Retest. You cannot assume whether it is an accumulation or distribution phase until that confirmed breakout.
Often you will get a "false breakout" designed to trigger orders outside of consolidation that can also fuel the real breakout.

We shouldn't get stuck on the idea that this applies only to Stocks, but importantly, the psychology behind the Wyckoff Cycle and how we can place ourselves in the best place to take advantage of it.

Same as saying candlesticks only applies to Rice traders. It's simply another way to view TA.

Someone mentioned 3 pushes, this is Elliot Wave Theory, which can also be difficult to interpret.
It never gets easier, you just get better
0 traders viewing now