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  • #42,561
  • Sep 27, 2024 8:12am Sep 27, 2024 8:12am
Quoting procrude
{quote} I am trying my luck with topstep $150k accounts. Got 2 for now. This was the first week, lets see how the next week goes. All on /GC {image}
Finishing my second week. Getting close. Taking it slow. These are 150k Evals (Topstep). I am beginning to LOVE the EOD Drawdown a lot more than trailing Drawdown.
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Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #42,562
  • Sep 27, 2024 8:14am Sep 27, 2024 8:14am
Anyone got experience with GoatFundedTrader? I'm currently funded with them on a 100k account and I made a lot of profit landing me a 9k profitsplit but I can't request it yet. Im kinda worried that since it's my first payout with them and it's pretty high I'll be scammed.
  • #42,563
  • Sep 27, 2024 8:27am Sep 27, 2024 8:27am
Quoting procrude
{quote} I use TopstepX, great platform. Very easy to copy trade. Good Performance Stats which are updated as soon as you close the trade.
what you think of the following ? Comes from a Noobie on discord …

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  • #42,564
  • Sep 27, 2024 8:45am Sep 27, 2024 8:45am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} what you think of the following ? Comes from a Noobie on discord … {image}
Never experienced any slippage or bad fills in TopStepX. I trade Apex alongside and Its all same. There are rumors.
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #42,565
  • Sep 27, 2024 8:49am Sep 27, 2024 8:49am
Quoting procrude
{quote} Finishing my second week. Getting close. Taking it slow. These are 150k Evals (Topstep). I am beginning to LOVE the EOD Drawdown a lot more than trailing Drawdown. {image}
This is what every trader dreams of. Green days with no to very minimal red days.
Just consecutive winning trades. With consecutive wins & increasing lot size anyone can be a millionaire.
Losing trades kill dreams of many traders.
  • #42,566
  • Edited 12:55pm Sep 27, 2024 8:56am | Edited 12:55pm
"Ehh, so you guys don't know that trick for those props ? You just need heavy instrument, with some tick size much bigger than transaction cost (ZB is perfect for that, ZN also good, UB a bit too volatile), you stay bid/offer, and you will be filled totally irrational way. So let's say there is 100 lots on bid on ZB, you wait with your limit there, there is 4 lots traded and you will be filled (even normally you would be at the end of the line and usually filled only when the price is not good anymore), then you just give it back with 1 tick. ZB is 31,25 per tick, trade cost ~4 usd, you put more lots, you copy to other accounts, and voila - you have those huge payouts. Of course you need to use correct time for it, not too volatile, also there is another way to do it, which I won't share. But this is basically it.

Does it have sense ? If your goal is to exploit the error and get payouts out of SIM - yes, if you want to "normally" trade - no, it won't work on live market.

The problem of those ppl is they were greedy... Go hardcore (and probably earned a lot at the beginning) and now it will be blocked for everyone..."
  • #42,567
  • Sep 27, 2024 9:13am Sep 27, 2024 9:13am
Quoting TrAndy1
Ehh, so you guys don't know that trick for those props ? You just need heavy instrument, with some tick size much bigger than transaction cost (ZB is perfect for that, ZN also good, UB a bit too volatile), you stay bid/offer, and you will be filled totally irrational way. So let's say there is 100 lots on bid on ZB, you wait with your limit there, there is 4 lots traded and you will be filled (even normally you would be at the end of the line and usually filled only when the price is not good anymore), then you just give it back with 1 tick. ZB...
you don't use props but you're so engrossed with props. Now you are teaching on how to scam the props, yet don't know about margin.
Since you have such a wonderful trick why don't you accept my challenge to open a $150K prop account and see who pass the challenge first.
  • #42,568
  • Sep 27, 2024 9:37am Sep 27, 2024 9:37am
Quoting failinforex
{quote} you don't use props but you're so engrossed with props. Now you are teaching on how to scam the props, yet don't know about margin. Since you have such a wonderful trick why don't you accept my challenge to open a $150K prop account and see who pass the challenge first.
you will have to accept it , it is never gonna happen ..


P.S. @TrAndy999 , if you need my name and address , send me a message with your email and I will send back an email with that info, contact your lawyer and sue me , please , see you in court for some fun ..
  • #42,569
  • Sep 27, 2024 10:20am Sep 27, 2024 10:20am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} This is what every trader dreams of. Green days with no to very minimal red days. Just consecutive winning trades. With consecutive wins & increasing lot size anyone can be a millionaire. Losing trades kill dreams of many traders.
if you wan do the hard way, i have so many seen get greedy after to many wins without losers and get some big losses and lost all.

much more easy to have thousands of loser a year (and of course on end more win in money ) and know exactly the risk you have by this and get used to have losers as part of the trading costs. so the wins get crazy easy and money comes in like a near upgoing line in your equity curve (if you have an edge and experience).

so in general often beginner hope for have low amount of losers, professional wants a lot of losers (for emotional, math , stability and risk calculation reasons) , but dont let them get big.
  • #42,570
  • Sep 27, 2024 10:27am Sep 27, 2024 10:27am
I noticed something.

Futures price and spot price in gold is same.

INdices price differs between spot and futures.

It is better to trade gold in futures Tradovate in this situation
Intraday only.
  • #42,571
  • Sep 27, 2024 10:28am Sep 27, 2024 10:28am
Anyone knows if there is copy trading software between mt4/mt5 and tradovate if this exists ?
Intraday only.
  • #42,572
  • Sep 27, 2024 11:26am Sep 27, 2024 11:26am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} They are the most solid Futures prop firm right now. But for me I would not like to invest in such a trailing Drawdown model comparing that offer to a personal account.
Thank you for your response.
  • #42,573
  • Sep 27, 2024 11:43am Sep 27, 2024 11:43am
Quoting armonius
Anyone got experience with GoatFundedTrader? I'm currently funded with them on a 100k account and I made a lot of profit landing me a 9k profitsplit but I can't request it yet. Im kinda worried that since it's my first payout with them and it's pretty high I'll be scammed.
I would not be comfortable with such amount in Goat (and almost nowhere else, to be honest). They're known for being very shady with plenty of denials. I think the best is to stop trading and pray to get paid. Keep us posted please.
  • #42,574
  • Sep 27, 2024 11:44am Sep 27, 2024 11:44am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} what you think of the following ? Comes from a Noobie on discord … {image}
I can't believe this, it's too bad to be true (for several reasons and not just because CFDs are forbiden in US).

Anyone confirms it ?
  • #42,575
  • Sep 27, 2024 11:58am Sep 27, 2024 11:58am
Quoting procrude
{quote} I use TopstepX, great platform. Very easy to copy trade. Good Performance Stats which are updated as soon as you close the trade.
When you copy trade using Topstep are your stoploss and takeprofit copied over to the follower account?
  • #42,576
  • Sep 27, 2024 12:01pm Sep 27, 2024 12:01pm
Quoting TrAndy1
Ehh, so you guys don't know that trick for those props ? You just need heavy instrument, with some tick size much bigger than transaction cost (ZB is perfect for that, ZN also good, UB a bit too volatile), you stay bid/offer, and you will be filled totally irrational way. So let's say there is 100 lots on bid on ZB, you wait with your limit there, there is 4 lots traded and you will be filled (even normally you would be at the end of the line and usually filled only when the price is not good anymore), then you just give it back with 1 tick. ZB...

LOL - what an idiot.

He just pasted that entire text in from someone else's post in another forum (trying to make it look like he actually knows something, I suppose, and hoping nobody would notice?).
  • #42,577
  • Sep 27, 2024 12:12pm Sep 27, 2024 12:12pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} LOL - what an idiot. He just pasted that entire text in from someone else's post in another forum (trying to make it look like he actually knows something, I suppose, and hoping nobody would notice?).
Ouch, that was not nice. We should credit the quotes TrAndy.

I see in that thread that poopy showed up. If he gets too involved in the discussion blood will start flooding. He's definitely one of the best real traders that I ever found in all these years in market forums (poopy is just his last nick, he had many more in the past). Very abrasive but, besides being brilliant in options, he knows his stuff and doesn't take BS.
  • #42,578
  • Sep 27, 2024 12:14pm Sep 27, 2024 12:14pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} LOL - what an idiot. He just pasted that entire text in from someone else's post in another forum (trying to make it look like he actually knows something, I suppose, and hoping nobody would notice?).
no surprise

TrAndy2022 on elitetrader is TrAndy1 from FF, the most famous twins in the trading world ..
  • #42,579
  • Sep 27, 2024 12:16pm Sep 27, 2024 12:16pm
Quoting TrAndy1
Ehh, so you guys don't know that trick for those props ? You just need heavy instrument, with some tick size much bigger than transaction cost (ZB is perfect for that, ZN also good, UB a bit too volatile), you stay bid/offer, and you will be filled totally irrational way. So let's say there is 100 lots on bid on ZB, you wait with your limit there, there is 4 lots traded and you will be filled (even normally you would be at the end of the line and usually filled only when the price is not good anymore), then you just give it back with 1 tick. ZB...
Blatant plagiarism.
  • #42,580
  • Sep 27, 2024 12:18pm Sep 27, 2024 12:18pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
TrAndy2022 on elitetrader is TrAndy1 from FF

Yes, evidently. He even “liked”/“thanked” the post there, before stealing it and pasting it in here! How shameless can you get?
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