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  • #42,341
  • Sep 20, 2024 9:43pm Sep 20, 2024 9:43pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} One can use quantower. Way better than tradovate or any other platform for copying across different prop firms.
I use quantower but it's only on a desktop. I trade on my phone as well.

That's why I like topstepx. Mffu's volumetrica sucks, though.
  • #42,342
  • Sep 20, 2024 9:44pm Sep 20, 2024 9:44pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} i told ta buddy we all are sleeping on mffu….. they are right there or maybe in some sense better from topstep n apex in aspect of everything as a futures prop firm… all pltaforms available, fastest approval, no grey area rules, cheapest challenges, eod drawdown, fast support etc … what else anyone want….
Yeah, man. Was avoiding them earlier due to bad reviews on MFFX here, but so far so good.

BTW, any other EOD drawdown firms around for futures? I know some change to intra day drawdown after getting into the "funded" stage.
  • #42,343
  • Sep 20, 2024 9:48pm Sep 20, 2024 9:48pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-A different owner?
Man does it gonna affect your payout??? IN the end we all want money in the bank.....He is paying and pretty fast not just now but for quite a while... thats good with me.... SO TEAM MILK'em AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE>>>>>>
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #42,344
  • Sep 20, 2024 9:50pm Sep 20, 2024 9:50pm
Quoting maltrader
{quote} Yeah, man. Was avoiding them earlier due to bad reviews on MFFX here, but so far so good. BTW, any other EOD drawdown firms around for futures? I know some change to intra day drawdown after getting into the "funded" stage.
bulenox has a plan for eod, alpha-futures, topstep etc... i'll add a new firm tradeify for now.. but not gonna promote until i test it myself.....They have cheap 80$ 50k plan like mffu and also they have tradovate.....
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #42,345
  • Sep 20, 2024 9:53pm Sep 20, 2024 9:53pm
Quoting maltrader
{quote} I use quantower but it's only on a desktop. I trade on my phone as well. That's why I like topstepx. Mffu's volumetrica sucks, though.
Yes, same here, wish quantower had a mobile app. I do use a remote desktop on my phone when away, so I can access my desktop, but real tough trading like that......pinching the fingers to make the screen bigger lol. It is really only in an emergency if I'm not home for a few hours. If going to be away from home for a few days, I'll bring a laptop.
  • #42,346
  • Sep 20, 2024 10:01pm Sep 20, 2024 10:01pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} bulenox has a plan for eod, alpha-futures, topstep etc... i'll add a new firm tradeify for now.. but not gonna promote until i test it myself.....They have cheap 80$ 50k plan like mffu and also they have tradovate.....
Yeah, have one alpha futures account to pass.
Started another topstep yesterday.
Probably with try tradify and fasttrack with the payout.

I thought Bulenox was intra day. Need to read their FAQ again.
  • #42,347
  • Sep 20, 2024 10:11pm Sep 20, 2024 10:11pm
Quoting maltrader
{quote} Yeah, have one alpha futures account to pass. Started another topstep yesterday. Probably with try tradify and fasttrack with the payout. I thought Bulenox was intra day. Need to read their FAQ again.
Not with Bulenox yet, but I believe their EOD account has a max daily loss ( I believe most EOD firms have this) and scaling. Their trailing has no daily loss and no scaling.
I know someone using them and in his words, they are basically APEX before the new rules APEX implemented.
  • #42,348
  • Sep 20, 2024 11:01pm Sep 20, 2024 11:01pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} One can use quantower. Way better than tradovate or any other platform for copying across different prop firms.
I really can't, I've got too much of an investment into Ninja Trader with my automation and scripts I have written (trailing stops, number of contracts based on risk % and distance to stop loss which is based on ATR, etc., etc.). Hiring a programmer to do all this in Quant Tower (if it's even possible) makes it not way better for those in my situation. The strategy builder in Ninja Trader is really good for non-programmers to create some automation (even if it's semi-automated to comply with prop firm rules).
  • #42,349
  • Edited 12:25am Sep 21, 2024 12:07am | Edited 12:25am
Quoting navk
{quote} Do you know, any firm offers demo to trade in Tradovate ? I signed up tradovate demo itself, but when i try to open contract, it says, " update market data subscription " required to place a trade
I thought TradeDay had a 14 day free trial and they use Tradovate but I'm not sure
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #42,350
  • Sep 21, 2024 5:46am Sep 21, 2024 5:46am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I thought TradeDay had a 14 day free trial and they use Tradovate but I'm not sure
That’s correct (and you can actually get as many separate 14-day free trials as you want, that way, just by giving a different email address each time - but you can't "extend" the 14 days that way: you have to end one free trial and start another).
  • #42,351
  • Sep 21, 2024 5:48am Sep 21, 2024 5:48am
Quoting montygoldy
SOme updates.... Last fews days kinda see-saw .... But the good thing is its building my confidence..... 1. 3 Funded MFFFU accounts - 2 at breakeven and 1 - 700$ down 2. Also passed one more eval so total 3 more funded MFFU in line if i lose these current accounts..... (Another best thing of MFFU for dormant funded accounts they dont charge monthly fees) Need a payout out of them i.e 3600$ to buy anymore evals.... {image} {image}
MFFU is myfundedfutures?
...I Bet You Ain't Never Seen A Donkey Fly!
  • #42,352
  • Sep 21, 2024 6:15am Sep 21, 2024 6:15am
Quoting dilidanjaro
{quote} MFFU is myfundedfutures?
yup
  • #42,353
  • Sep 21, 2024 7:18am Sep 21, 2024 7:18am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I thought TradeDay had a 14 day free trial and they use Tradovate but I'm not sure
Set up demo in Tradeday thro Tradovate.

Thanks
Intraday only.
  • #42,354
  • Sep 21, 2024 7:46am Sep 21, 2024 7:46am
Anyone heard of this tracking site for rise payouts ?

https://www.tradingpilot.net/prop-firm-payouts
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  • #42,355
  • Sep 21, 2024 7:53am Sep 21, 2024 7:53am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
Anyone heard of this tracking site for rise payouts ? https://www.tradingpilot.net/prop-firm-payouts {image}
Never heard about it, but thanks for this valuable information.
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #42,356
  • Sep 21, 2024 8:07am Sep 21, 2024 8:07am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Since you stopped posting your daily "I won 97 trades in row" it was kind of obvious you blew up.
I will now demo it thro Trade day to see how to avoid trailing DD and then comeback to new challenge.

50k account, thought 47.5 k limit but, it due to trailing dd, my account with apex got blown up.

At one time, my account was upto 52.6k and then wanted to finish it off but then when account reached below 50k blown up.( due to 2.5k loss rule from max equity )
Intraday only.
  • #42,357
  • Sep 21, 2024 8:20am Sep 21, 2024 8:20am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
Anyone heard of this tracking site for rise payouts ? https://www.tradingpilot.net/prop-firm-payouts {image}
Similar to
https://payoutjunction.com/ but looks like payout junction has futures firms as well.
  • #42,358
  • Sep 21, 2024 9:02am Sep 21, 2024 9:02am
Quoting navk
{quote} I will now demo it thro Trade day to see how to avoid trailing DD and then comeback to new challenge. 50k account, thought 47.5 k limit but, it due to trailing dd, my account with apex got blown up. At one time, my account was upto 52.6k and then wanted to finish it off but then when account reached below 50k blown up.( due to 2.5k loss rule from max equity )
When you get that close, scale back size, so a losss will not take you back far. You'll figure it out, as I stated, it just takes a bit. Easiest way for me to explain it is where your isk was based on your static DD in forex props, you must base it on your trail in futures. However, when you have $400 left to pass as you did, just do a 1:1 trade risking $400. How did you lose $2,500 with a $400 target? your stop was 6x your target or was it simply a bad streak of losses?
  • #42,359
  • Sep 21, 2024 9:06am Sep 21, 2024 9:06am
Quoting maltrader
{quote} Similar to https://payoutjunction.com/ but looks like payout junction has futures firms as well.
The problem with the payout sites is I believe they only track rise. I mean it's better than nothing, but I'm sure Apex, Topstep are the top payouts on the futures side, most likely not even close......we also don't see FTMO or the 5%ers on forex?
So someone who doesn't understand this, is missing all of the top paying firms......which, IMO, should be used first before diversifying to others.
  • #42,360
  • Sep 21, 2024 9:11am Sep 21, 2024 9:11am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
Anyone heard of this tracking site for rise payouts ? https://www.tradingpilot.net/prop-firm-payouts {image}
Strange, I see the 5%ers on here, but not on payout junction. They are both tracking rise, no? Makes me wonder if they are affiliate sites firms are paying to list there. I trust nobody, other than a few here who share first hand experience.......this thread is truly the best resource, by far, on anyhting prop related.
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