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  • #41
  • Jul 11, 2007 10:22pm Jul 11, 2007 10:22pm
Quoting BarrySDCA
Another option is to use the web applet. You can get there by pointing your browser to port 4643 of your virtual desktops IP. (http://virtualdesktopop:4643)
barry, tried it but my office firewall blocked all ports except for port 80.
Is there anyway possible to map the RDP Windows Server port to port 80, instead of port 4643?
  • #42
  • Jul 12, 2007 12:06am Jul 12, 2007 12:06am
Quoting zamans98
barry, tried it but my office firewall blocked all ports except for port 80.
Is there anyway possible to map the RDP Windows Server port to port 80, instead of port 4643?
I am sorry...I gave you the wrong URL. It's a secure session, so:

https://YourVirtualDesktopIP:4643

try that....
BarrySDCA Commercial Network Services
  • #43
  • Jul 12, 2007 12:21am Jul 12, 2007 12:21am
  •  tesla
  • Joined Oct 2006 | Status: Friendly Neighborhood Programmer | 533 Posts
Quoting zamans98
barry, tried it but my office firewall blocked all ports except for port 80.
Is there anyway possible to map the RDP Windows Server port to port 80, instead of port 4643?
If you're having firewall issues, I humbly recommend you take a look at LogMeIn.com. It's browser based, free (they have a pro package, but not needed), uses http-tunneling (no problems with firewalls) and is extremely easy to set up.
  • #44
  • Jul 12, 2007 12:32am Jul 12, 2007 12:32am
Yes I have a strange situation with internet access. I live in a big city, with big cable co. and DSL. And I live in an apt in the middle of all these services, but can't get DSL and have to go with cable co. that just services my apt complex and others. So it's strange but my lease is up soon. I thought it was weather related but it happens too often.
  • #45
  • Jul 12, 2007 11:43am Jul 12, 2007 11:43am
There IS a way to change the remote desktop port. I will open a ticket for you so that details you need to know are sent directly to you.

I posted this in the forum in case anyone is in the same situation and following the thread. Please post if it works for you or not. thank you

Quoting zamans98
barry, tried it but my office firewall blocked all ports except for port 80.
Is there anyway possible to map the RDP Windows Server port to port 80, instead of port 4643?
BarrySDCA Commercial Network Services
  • #46
  • Jul 12, 2007 11:44am Jul 12, 2007 11:44am
Crap, just lost my reply...no idea why.

Anyway, abbreviated version.......

Anyone with any experience using webex? Supposedly fast, cheap and easy and all the host computer (my work terminal) requires is access to a web browser.
  • #47
  • Jul 12, 2007 1:10pm Jul 12, 2007 1:10pm
Hi BarrySDCA,

I have a question regarding the Traders Virtual Desktop Powe Edition.

4 remote desktops sessions are included in the plan. Does this mean that we can have 4 simultaneous connections on the server or that we can create 4 differents users ??

Thanks in advance.


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  • #48
  • Jul 12, 2007 1:27pm Jul 12, 2007 1:27pm
Thanks for the idea Barry SDCA but from what I understand the two computers will need to use the same IP provider for the connection to work.
I'll try your idea about pointing to the remote's IP.

Webex won't work for me because they require a file to be downloaded onto my work computer like every other option (it seems)...
  • #49
  • Jul 12, 2007 2:35pm Jul 12, 2007 2:35pm
This computer (work) has hyper terminal which says I need to connect via a modem or null modem --- don't think I can do that from work

LogMeIn was ok except that while I'm on the remote no one else can use the remote computer while I am monitoring the trade.
  • #50
  • Jul 12, 2007 2:44pm Jul 12, 2007 2:44pm
VPS accounts used for constant processing needs, and it seems regardless of the provider, seem to be a bad call if its your money on the line (unless your spending over $100/month, but for that price, why not go dedicated). Colo is great if its local, your into computers and you don't mind it being on your clock and dime if parts crap out. Read around on some of the more popular web hosting forums to get the idea.

You can get a solid dedicated server (for the purpose of trading, ie. no mail/web/ftp services running) for $75 - $100/month. I pay $115 for a:
P4 3.0ghz
2gig RAM
120 GIG HD
500 GIG Bandwidth
MS Windows Server 2K3 Standard Edition

Prices are usually around the same and when shopping around but watch out for providers who offer VERY HIGH referral incentives and/or "Unlimited Space or Bandwidth". Theres a reason they have to pay so much to push their product. And the "Unlimited Resources" hosting concept has failed consistently. All in all: go mainstream provider.

Also note that if your not running web/mail/dns/etc server services on your dedicated server and use it strictly for trading, there is a very very very slim chance of getting hacked. Close all ports aside from the VNC/RDP/SSH ports, run a basic software firewall and your ready to rock.


Just my 2 cents... works for me...
  • #51
  • Jul 14, 2007 9:55am Jul 14, 2007 9:55am
You can do either, but it's recommended to leave one TS seat open in case you lock yourself out and need to get back on. (It's designed for the same user to logon multiple sessions, but will work either way.)

Quoting judex001
Hi BarrySDCA,

I have a question regarding the Traders Virtual Desktop Powe Edition.

4 remote desktops sessions are included in the plan. Does this mean that we can have 4 simultaneous connections on the server or that we can create 4 differents users ??

Thanks in advance.

BarrySDCA Commercial Network Services
  • #52
  • Jul 14, 2007 10:04am Jul 14, 2007 10:04am
I have not heard back from Zamans yet about if he can get to the remote desktop through port 80 with the changes I made for him. Centron, if you think it may hhelp for you then I will be happy to do the same thing so you can test getting on the virtual desktop through port 80.

We are putting together a traders desktop application pack, which will verify the virtual desktop is secured by disabling unused services, add port 80 to the remote desktop, enable remote sound and printing and some other things. It will be out soon.

One important consideration.....there has been a lot of suggestion that a personal laptop, home PC or even a dedicated server is more secure than a virtual desktop. Question: Do you have a team of pros watching over your desktop or laptop, looking for security breaches or anyting unusual???....I doubt it, but virtual desktops do. If anyone still thinks they are insecure then I will post my virtual desktiops IP address and challenege anyone to hack it. It's just not possible, unless I let them in the front door through careless web surfing. Of course, that can happen on any computer but will be quickly detected on a virtual destop.

Dedicated servers are a little more secure, but they don't have the proactive processess monitoring to look for trouble. Dedicated servers are UNMANAGED, and so updates and such need to be installed by the subscriber. The intrusion detection stops at the firewall where the intrusion detection with virtual desktolps goes all the way down to running processes and open files (this is often how we detect phishers abusing free trials). not possible...I'm telling you, not possible (at least on this network).


Quoting CentrOn
This computer (work) has hyper terminal which says I need to connect via a modem or null modem --- don't think I can do that from work

LogMeIn was ok except that while I'm on the remote no one else can use the remote computer while I am monitoring the trade.
BarrySDCA Commercial Network Services
  • #53
  • Dec 14, 2007 6:18pm Dec 14, 2007 6:18pm
hi,

is there anyway to set up your own server and mt4 on taht ?
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  • #54
  • Dec 14, 2007 6:22pm Dec 14, 2007 6:22pm
Quoting jjk2
hi,

is there anyway to set up your own server and mt4 on taht ?
Yeah, there is. Just google 'dedicated server' and you'll find several companies that'll setup a server for you.
Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto!
  • #55
  • Dec 14, 2007 6:41pm Dec 14, 2007 6:41pm
Quoting jjk2
hi,

is there anyway to set up your own server and mt4 on taht ?
http://www.vpsland.com/index.html
  • #56
  • Dec 14, 2007 7:34pm Dec 14, 2007 7:34pm
I don't want to be a smart-ass you know...

Quoting rjay
Why would you want to run MT4 on a VPS ?!?
Accessibility...
EA...

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(including VPS's) for years,
Are you sure; Windows NT or shared Linux?

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you can virtually guarantee that the server will be hacked into sooner rather than later ,
Then you where not so good, as you thought, (with security) my friend...

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and what do you think the hacker's going to do when he sees MT4 running with full access to your FX account ?
What do you think when a hacker notice MT4 running on your desktop-PC, leave it alone? OMG...we cannot trade anymore using a native fat-client...

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The risks far, far outweigh any perceived advantage of having MT4 running on a fast server IMHO.
Yes, for you...because there are no perceived advantages for you..."Why would you want to run MT4 on a VPS ?!?"

Just secure it well...You will be just fine...

Not sounded like a smart-ass, right?......great!
  • #57
  • Dec 14, 2007 7:36pm Dec 14, 2007 7:36pm
Quoting rjay
It is virtually impossible to 100% ensure that your server cannot get hacked. Dedicated or VPS makes no difference ....
So your own desktop is not safe either, am I right?...OMG we cannot use computers anymore...
  • #58
  • Mar 28, 2008 5:09pm Mar 28, 2008 5:09pm
Quoting jasdel
http://www.vpsland.com/index.html
seems this company stole our auto logon script. unbelievable

https://support.vpsland.com/index.ph...kbarticleid=90

You will notice I just added a copyright notice to the picture.
BarrySDCA Commercial Network Services
  • #59
  • Jun 1, 2008 8:13pm Jun 1, 2008 8:13pm
try http://www.omegasupreme.com.
  • #60
  • Jun 1, 2008 10:33pm Jun 1, 2008 10:33pm
Ive been using SWVPS with good results .Its been restarted a few times over the weekend but its been really good for the money $10 a month
I run 4 -MT4 currently 1 live account and 3 demos forward testing different EAs its worth the price just to be able to turn off my PC and still have the apps running.

This has a seperate file manager for uploading files but its not that complicated.

Hope that helps
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