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  • #3,641
  • Jun 7, 2024 7:11am Jun 7, 2024 7:11am
Quoting WallFlower
{quote} Yep good mindset, Ill put that on my sign aswell lol
My dog gets some funny looks with his sign, might need to change that one before the next div trade if I'm to have any cash to trade with.
Sounds like a lot of screen time to me.
  • #3,642
  • Jun 7, 2024 8:34am Jun 7, 2024 8:34am
Quoting LazyTrades
{quote} My dog gets some funny looks with his sign, might need to change that one before the next div trade if I'm to have any cash to trade with.
I just sold the dog to go all in on the next divi trade
lucky I rubbed my crystal ball and recovered on the last trades of the week, ended up positive +17%
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  • #3,643
  • Jun 7, 2024 11:18am Jun 7, 2024 11:18am
Quoting LazyTrades
{quote} He has his own sign "Bitch and 2 puppies to support".
  • #3,644
  • Jun 7, 2024 3:44pm Jun 7, 2024 3:44pm
Quoting LazyTrades
{quote} My dog gets some funny looks with his sign, might need to change that one before the next div trade if I'm to have any cash to trade with.
Tell you what if I'd not killed that CAC trade when I did I reckon I'd be eating the dogs by now! Just checked and it's still draining..

Have a great weekend all, off to a beer festival tomorrow
  • #3,645
  • Jun 9, 2024 11:01am Jun 9, 2024 11:01am
Little bit of backtesting while I sit on a hangover..

Just for fun, no prediction just a trade every 15 minutes for six months and a sensible average +close:

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  • #3,646
  • Jun 9, 2024 12:02pm Jun 9, 2024 12:02pm
random trading (scalping + hedging) on a small cent account, without any analysis or philosophizing gives me the best results
  • #3,647
  • Jun 9, 2024 12:05pm Jun 9, 2024 12:05pm
Quoting Fagin
Little bit of backtesting while I sit on a hangover.. Just for fun, no prediction just a trade every 15 minutes for six months and a sensible average +close: {image}
Happened to be doing something similar, but without hangover.
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  • #3,648
  • Jun 10, 2024 12:36am Jun 10, 2024 12:36am
Quoting d5400
{quote} Happened to be doing something similar, but without hangover. {image}
to fagin and d5400 i have a question:

equity has repeatedly experienced a DD that was manageable.

may i ask what leverage did you use in the extreme backtest?
trading is like dancing, don't think and just listen to the music!
  • #3,649
  • Edited 6:41am Jun 10, 2024 6:27am | Edited 6:41am
Quoting d5400
{quote} Happened to be doing something similar, but without hangover. {image}
is this manual or algo? for fagin aswell
  • #3,650
  • Jun 10, 2024 6:51am Jun 10, 2024 6:51am
Quoting d5400
{quote} Happened to be doing something similar, but without hangover. {image}
I've many EAs which produce similar results, more proof than as long as you can cope with the DD there's method to our madness. I'm working on something at the moment which works manually to reduce those green hanging DD vines but I'm buggered if I can be arsed to sit in front of the PC to place all the trades. Manual results keep proving positive but I'm always amazed how much effort is required to replicate manual trading. Might be a false dawn but, until I prove otherwise, I'll keep going.
Sounds like a lot of screen time to me.
  • #3,651
  • Jun 10, 2024 7:22am Jun 10, 2024 7:22am
Quoting birdland
{quote} to fagin and d5400 i have a question: equity has repeatedly experienced a DD that was manageable. may i ask what leverage did you use in the extreme backtest?
Sorry birdland I've overwritten that one working on another project. From memory I was using max 20 positions at 0.1% each 200 pip SL to get the correct position size. Max drawdown on that was only 16%

I get a bit obsessed with this stuff and should write things down. There's gold dust everywhere in my office but not in the bank

I'll re create it when I've finished cracking Billy's safe
  • #3,652
  • Jun 10, 2024 7:33am Jun 10, 2024 7:33am
Quoting WallFlower
{quote} is this manual or algo? for fagin aswell
Algo. Far too many trades for me to click
  • #3,653
  • Jun 10, 2024 7:41am Jun 10, 2024 7:41am
Quoting Fagin
{quote} Sorry birdland I've overwritten that one working on another project. From memory I was using max 20 positions at 0.1% each 200 pip SL to get the correct position size. Max drawdown on that was only 16% I get a bit obsessed with this stuff and should write things down. There's gold dust everywhere in my office but not in the bank I'll re create it when I've finished cracking Billy's safe
Same here re projects although I'm a little more diligent these days in case I stumble across the Holy Thimble, not necessarily looking for mechanical trading methods more a way to automate the boring bits for me.
Sounds like a lot of screen time to me.
  • #3,654
  • Jun 10, 2024 7:50am Jun 10, 2024 7:50am
Quoting LazyTrades
{quote} Same here re projects although I'm a little more diligent these days in case I stumble across the Holy Thimble, not necessarily looking for mechanical trading methods more a way to automate the boring bits for me.
Same here but my problem is if I think of something I need to test it otherwise I can't sleep!!
  • #3,655
  • Jun 10, 2024 8:00am Jun 10, 2024 8:00am
Quoting Fagin
{quote} Same here but my problem is if I think of something I need to test it otherwise I can't sleep!!
Neighbours probably think we're watching porn until 2am, if only they knew how much less glamourous it really is.
Sounds like a lot of screen time to me.
  • #3,656
  • Jun 10, 2024 8:09am Jun 10, 2024 8:09am
Quoting LazyTrades
{quote} Neighbours probably think we're watching porn until 2am, if only they knew how much less glamourous it really is.
  • #3,657
  • Jun 10, 2024 9:09am Jun 10, 2024 9:09am
Quoting birdland
{quote} to fagin and d5400 i have a question: equity has repeatedly experienced a DD that was manageable. may i ask what leverage did you use in the extreme backtest?
This account had 1:1000 leverage . But this screenshot is actually from a buggy ea.
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  • #3,658
  • Jun 10, 2024 9:10am Jun 10, 2024 9:10am
Quoting WallFlower
{quote} is this manual or algo? for fagin aswell
This is algo, very simple one. Just buy after long candle, sell after short candle. Profit
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  • #3,659
  • Jun 10, 2024 9:36am Jun 10, 2024 9:36am
Quoting LazyTrades
{quote} Neighbours probably think we're watching porn until 2am, if only they knew how much less glamourous it really is.
Ha! Too true. That's why I got so pissed of with that IDDD character. The hours I sometimes put in to find and test/change/update things and he just wants it handing on plate..
  • #3,660
  • Jun 10, 2024 9:54am Jun 10, 2024 9:54am
Agreed, I often wondered myself why people don't just post "Do this and you'll be rich" type info but it would be like giving a grenade to a 6 year old. For a start I've invested 1000's of hours just to get to this level of incompetence and secondly even if we handed someone a brush it doesn't mean they could fashion a piece of artwork. Look at those DDs, how many would actually be able to sit on some of those even if all the evidence shows it will come good in the end.
Sounds like a lot of screen time to me.
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