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  • #36,221
  • May 9, 2024 4:37am May 9, 2024 4:37am
Quoting Capablanca
This is how 5ers tries to eliminate gamblers {image} {image}
So is it normal for terms to be changed mid challenge etc at various firms now?
  • #36,222
  • May 9, 2024 4:49am May 9, 2024 4:49am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} So is it normal for terms to be changed mid challenge etc at various firms now?
I guess all props have this kind of vague rules:
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The risk department reserves the right to request funded traders to apply specific risk parameters to accurately assess risk within their accounts. These parameters, may include but are not limited to leverage limits or position size constraints. It’s important to note that these requirements may be temporary in nature and subject to periodic review and adjustment by the risk department as necessary.

Not ideal but I prefer that they do like this instead of paying and terminating the funded account or denying payouts with gambling argument (which is also in most of props T&C).
  • #36,223
  • May 9, 2024 5:09am May 9, 2024 5:09am
Quoting Capablanca
This is how 5ers tries to eliminate gamblers {image} {image}
the way to keep the model sustainable..
  • #36,224
  • May 9, 2024 5:14am May 9, 2024 5:14am
Quoting Capablanca
I wonder how FXIFY is managing things. They are around for an year now, their rules are very relaxed and I have not heard any bad stories about denied payouts, hidden rules, decreased leverage, etc. Could it be because they have a broker behind and they know better how to manage risk and/or hit people with real market execution during news ? It puzzles me how they've been crossing all these turbulent times without we notice them.
lots of denials
  • #36,225
  • May 9, 2024 5:17am May 9, 2024 5:17am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} lots of denials
Really ? Never bumped in any in tweet, which is usually when the sh*t comes up faster.
  • #36,226
  • May 9, 2024 5:19am May 9, 2024 5:19am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I guess all props have this kind of vague rules: {quote} Not ideal but I prefer that they do like this instead of paying and terminating the funded account or denying payouts with gambling argument (which is also in most of props T&C).
Anything to clean up the industry is a good thing as long as it is ethical and consistent with contract law and not let's make it up as we go along kind of thing.

Cheers...
  • #36,227
  • May 9, 2024 5:38am May 9, 2024 5:38am
Quoting Capablanca
I wonder how FXIFY is managing things. They are around for an year now, their rules are very relaxed and I have not heard any bad stories about denied payouts, hidden rules, decreased leverage, etc. Could it be because they have a broker behind and they know better how to manage risk and/or hit people with real market execution during news ? It puzzles me how they've been crossing all these turbulent times without we notice them.
The only negative experience I have is that they ban successful traders - meaning after you pull out a larger payout. Many complaints about it can be found on their Discord. It appears as a technical error which prevent traders from purchasing - much like the FPFX ban looks like. But I was told this is FXIFY ban (as they are not supposed to use FPFX).

However, I'm not sure how much this helps their bottom line as they still do the payouts as long as the trader keeps earning. They only prevent them to accumulate more accounts or repurchase when they burn it (and sooner or later 99% do).

I was also banned but was lucky to get the ban lifted after some time.
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #36,228
  • May 9, 2024 6:24am May 9, 2024 6:24am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I believe depends on your needs. Not everybody wants a Lambo. For some 100-200$ a day is enough. I am GREEDY as F**k MOFO.
yes, its good money. but not for talk this big same time with this nit big numbers.
good chance is this person has not near this when need to talk big same time (sounds even little fishy).
  • #36,229
  • May 9, 2024 6:27am May 9, 2024 6:27am
Quoting Mike1108
{quote} {image} If you have seen post clearly. Yesterday was 23275 in 1 hour have you seen this amount in your life.
dont know, 10 years ago i had this sometimes in a month when was bad month, but in general so small results i dont trade any more (you calculate really in days, you are then really a beginner ).

and you are funny, with your talk i dont trust you even make any money. you sound like a scam.
  • #36,230
  • May 9, 2024 6:31am May 9, 2024 6:31am
Quoting Mike1108
{quote} That is what you do my friend. I risk 1 : 10 1 risk 1% and earn 10% If you can not do it, it does not means other can not do it.
we know big mouth people cant do it. and look at you how big mouth you talking.
not often you see someone cheating people this hard like you try to do.
  • #36,231
  • May 9, 2024 6:32am May 9, 2024 6:32am
Quoting Mike1108
What you earn in 1 year I earn in 1 week. What i earn in 1 year you will earn in life time from trading.
Please this part was so unnecessary, is see much pride in this statement.
So people/traders here earns 20 times in a month what you earn in a year but you won't see them through it at people faces.
There is a lot to say about this but let me keep it simple.
Your only competing with the market and not with a fellow trader. KNOW THIS AND KNOW PEACE.
THE TRUTH IS SIMPLE,ACCEPTING THE SIMPLICITY OF THE TRUTH IS WHAT IS HARD
  • #36,232
  • May 9, 2024 6:34am May 9, 2024 6:34am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} Sorry, but no one will be inspired, or motivated, or excited or impressed who clearly understands how you able to pass in just 1 hour because you SUPER OVER LEVERAGED, you risked your whole account on just 1 trade idea as we can see clearly there are 3 trades but these are entered almost at the same price & closed in a very small range & considered 1 trade idea you could have blown the account even more earlier like in 20 minutes if not gone your way even if you are confident about your trade idea, but you should not over leveraged, and...
he will open 2 accounts , go in different directions and present you the one with the win. just to show you. faking winners is to easy in trading. be a winner is more difficult.
  • #36,233
  • May 9, 2024 6:36am May 9, 2024 6:36am
Do you show me any results that you can earn money.
If you can show results Looser talk a lot.
winners show results.

If no results than please do not talk big.
  • #36,234
  • May 9, 2024 6:40am May 9, 2024 6:40am
Quoting Mike1108
Do you show me any results that you can earn money. If you can show results Looser talk a lot. winners show results. If no results than please do not talk big.
you mean like your results from your demo accounts, what you showed is nothing. anthing can be fake 2 account done opposite trades, demo accounts, only prop account money (so again demo accounts)......

its like you are beginner without knowledge talking about what you dont know. fun for sure, useless for sure too.

at least you show easy that you dont know much about trading, but why you want to let this see people so fast? try cheating more intelligent, a lot of more potential to use on your side. so back to the school and try be better faker.
  • #36,235
  • May 9, 2024 6:42am May 9, 2024 6:42am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} you mean like your results from your demo accounts, what you showed is nothing. anthing can be fake 2 account done opposite trades, demo accounts, only prop account money (so again demo accounts)...... its like you are beginner without knowledge talking about what you dont know. fun for sure, useless for sure too.
That is what you do 2 demo accounts.
I trade and earn money and people learn in my Thread to earn money.
I can 100% bet you do not earn anything from trading.
  • #36,236
  • May 9, 2024 6:44am May 9, 2024 6:44am
Quoting Mike1108
{quote} That is what you do 2 demo accounts. I trade and earn money and people learn in my Thread to earn money. I can 100% bet you do not earn anything from trading.
and so you lost your bet already, so 100% wrong (you should not bet 100% when you dont know about the topic, same problem you have in trading - biggest beginner problem is what its your problem!). funny, so your trading works same, you bet something and wrong and fake opposite.

loser trader is really the word to call you. i dont use it often, but for you its perfect. i would not trust you with 0,000001%, anything on you looks fake, scammer and cheater.
  • #36,237
  • May 9, 2024 6:46am May 9, 2024 6:46am
just posting this in all caps and large and bold font so i can be cool like everyone else
  • #36,238
  • May 9, 2024 6:51am May 9, 2024 6:51am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} and so you lost your bet already, so 100% wrong (you should not bet 100% when you dont know about the topic, same problem you have in trading - biggest beginner problem is what its your problem!). funny, so your trading works same, you bet something and wrong and fake opposite. loser trader is really the word to call you. i dont use it often, but for you its perfect. i would not trust you with 0,000001%, anything on you looks fake, scammer and cheater.
I think you have some brain Issues
If you need a good doctor I will pay fees.
Get your treatment and get well soon.
God bless you.
  • #36,239
  • May 9, 2024 6:56am May 9, 2024 6:56am
Quoting Mike1108
{quote} I think you have some brain Issues If you need a good doctor I will pau fees Get your treatment and get well soon. God bless you.
funny. all your argument are destroyed that you are a good trader. for sure you are not and you show constantly you cant trade.

so you now need attack personally.

always same with liars, faker, cheaters and scammers. you are perfect example.
  • #36,240
  • May 9, 2024 7:00am May 9, 2024 7:00am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} funny. all your argument are destroyed that you are a good trader. for sure you are not and you show constantly you cant trade. so you now need attack personally. always same with liars, faker, cheaters and scammers. you are perfect example.
If you say so I will become what you think you really are yourself what you try to project to others.
You really need a serious help.
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