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  • #34,141
  • Apr 5, 2024 3:17am Apr 5, 2024 3:17am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} see this after giving proofs this is what they come up with. Now blaming my thought process coz i had the fear of violation so i had to force close them. For a sec if i believe i did it still it doesnt breach any rule. Risk management is to just block users who can win big. Now i know why their payout proofs are all very small. {image}
Considering this reply you get nothing, you have been probably trading against trend opening again positions. Not the best strategy but i get involved in this sometimes as well, mostly when trend is strong and i expect string correction.
  • #34,142
  • Apr 5, 2024 3:30am Apr 5, 2024 3:30am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I think you won't be able to force them to work with you on funding so the best you aim is to have a refund and make people know. To get a refund you have two options. Either they will accept doing it voluntarily or you may be able to charge back though credit card. For them to make it voluntarily you may point them out this thread so that this may get visibility and threat to write it in twitter, tagging these guys, hoping one of them retweets: https://twitter.com/TraderBach https://twitter.com/mytradingangel https://twitter.com/PropPatrol...
Propfirmbrigade is khaled from fundingpips. Its really retarded how he deals with social media. Yesterday he was going around threatening people. Day before apologising and praising.
  • #34,143
  • Apr 5, 2024 3:50am Apr 5, 2024 3:50am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Propfirmbrigade is khaled from fundingpips. Its really retarded how he deals with social media. Yesterday he was going around threatening people. Day before apologising and praising.
Ouch, thanks for the information, already edited the post.
If there is person I don't trust in this industry is Khaled. A really toxic character with an army of minions that will eat sh* and say that the sky is green if he orders them to do it.
  • #34,144
  • Apr 5, 2024 4:38am Apr 5, 2024 4:38am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Propfirmbrigade is khaled from fundingpips. Its really retarded how he deals with social media. Yesterday he was going around threatening people. Day before apologising and praising.
Absolute shit ton of shills on there at moment, almost zero useful/trustworthy prop info.
  • #34,145
  • Edited 5:17am Apr 5, 2024 5:06am | Edited 5:17am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} thanks will wait for a day then i’ll take necessary steps. Won fair n square and put in efforts and time which is more valuable. I was highly motivated coz of Stan and thought this guy might be a real deal infact its the opposite.
The guy is still offering metatrader to US citizens... he's a scammer
  • #34,146
  • Apr 5, 2024 5:53am Apr 5, 2024 5:53am
The fundingtraders.c om guy has a legit drug/alcohol/hooker problem.

He also loves attention ragging on competitors - should be given wide berth.
  • #34,147
  • Apr 5, 2024 5:54am Apr 5, 2024 5:54am
Quoting rizla101
{quote} Absolute shit ton of shills on there at moment, almost zero useful/trustworthy prop info.
Khaled, Blueguardian, SFT influencers all use same bot farms. Hopefully twitter starts kicking the bots out and exposing the actual interaction but not holding breath.
  • #34,148
  • Apr 5, 2024 6:03am Apr 5, 2024 6:03am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} So you were risky in the other account but not in this new one ? What a joke of a risk department. With this bad start I think the best with them is either make small payouts like 3 or 4K or go for a big one so that they nd terminate your account. It's clear that you are dealing with scammers.
Looks like they are pure scammers you cant even milk those ones
  • #34,149
  • Apr 5, 2024 6:19am Apr 5, 2024 6:19am
Quoting youngD
{quote} Considering this reply you get nothing, you have been probably trading against trend opening again positions. Not the best strategy but i get involved in this sometimes as well, mostly when trend is strong and i expect string correction.
my trading losses doesnt breach/violate any rules.
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  • #34,150
  • Edited 6:43am Apr 5, 2024 6:25am | Edited 6:43am
Quoting rizla101
{quote} Monty, forget it, dont waste your energy on this, you'll get nowhere. You had 10 lots on gold milliseconds away from violating the 2% rule. You closed, entered the same trade within a minute. If they have split position caveat within the 2% like the email states, right or wrong they have good reason to believe you have circumvented this rule. You will not bend them to your will. If they are still allowing you your initial account focus on that, this is where you can get the justice you want.
check the loss clearly its exactly 1.5% not nearly close to 2%(.5% is a huge difference) thats what i had on every trade which is consistent. Its not like i manually closed the trade it just hit my stop loss thats it. Secondly check the screenshot clearly price hit the support and the candle i entered again it reversed so i opened the trade with same sl which is 1.5%… now the thing is when the rules clealy stated 2% per trade idea and i never crossed it so it doesnt matter. So even a loss at 1.99% doesnt violate a thing.
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  • #34,151
  • Edited 6:41am Apr 5, 2024 6:31am | Edited 6:41am
See now they eating their own sh@t… when they havé no explanation and you show proof with logic. They still not accepting they are wrong. Both instances they are claiming i gave them proof i.e 1.75% and 1.5% losses not even closed to 2%
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  • #34,152
  • Apr 5, 2024 6:48am Apr 5, 2024 6:48am
Matter of fact is i am done with forex prop firms except ftmo. I joined forces to make good money not measely 1k or 2k a month. One firm after another coming up different ways to stop you pay a single dime. Not once this is my fifth instance with different firms where they blatantly denied me for being profitable and win fair n square. When you spend so much effort to pass whiich hardly 10% do it as their own email states and then as me i have go fight for each n every thing. This is not worth my time and efforts. I am officially moving on to FUTURES NOW. Now will start diversifying buy challenges in different firms.
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  • #34,153
  • Apr 5, 2024 6:50am Apr 5, 2024 6:50am
Match Trader conditions to fuck people over at fundingpips. Heaps of reports of tp's not executing, stops not executing but breaches executing. Over and over and over and over.

If you are going to use them use ctrader
  • #34,154
  • Apr 5, 2024 7:10am Apr 5, 2024 7:10am
Quoting Expo33
I hate to keep pimping APEX but everything is so smooth. Buy challenge for the cost of lunch at Denny's. Get credentials instantly. Click some buttons. Pass the one step in one day. Pay the cost of a nice steakhouse dinner for two for your PA acct. Sign thingy. Get PA credentials in a few minutes. Listen to Karl blabber on about "real future" firms. Jerk off to Shakira. Blow up account. Rinse and repeat. It's extremely cathartic {image}
Those hips don't lie.
  • #34,155
  • Apr 5, 2024 7:18am Apr 5, 2024 7:18am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I have finally accepted except ftmo forex prop firms are daylight scams. Since last month lost 400k funded account with skilledfundedtrades on which i accumulated total of 21k payout as just waiting for my payout date before the disaster. There are so many nonsense rules already in place n i traded manually on same ip with same stop loss on each trade and winners were bigger than the losers. What else is the definition of consistency…
5%ers is OK as well.......Ironically, 3 years ago, it was MFF, FTMO and the 5%ers. The rest, well, we see now what I predicted 3 years ago. Before anyone starts this morning with the MFF bullshit.......they were, by far, the best company to ever exist in this space and anyone WHO ACTUALLY TRADED legit with them will confirm that. If you have no first hand expeience with them....just save the bullshit comments....no time for it today, I have apex money to make.
  • #34,156
  • Apr 5, 2024 7:24am Apr 5, 2024 7:24am
Quoting montygoldy
Matter of fact is i am done with forex prop firms except ftmo. I joined forces to make good money not measely 1k or 2k a month. One firm after another coming up different ways to stop you pay a single dime. Not once this is my fifth instance with different firms where they blatantly denied me for being profitable and win fair n square. When you spend so much effort to pass whiich hardly 10% do it as their own email states and then as me i have go fight for each n every thing. This is not worth my time and efforts. I am officially moving on to FUTURES...
and the big payout you received (I forget the firm)....you had to fight for that one as well and they banned you after the payout....am I remebering correctly?
lol, good thing they shut down the one firm where none of this bullshit occurred...........
  • #34,157
  • Apr 5, 2024 7:26am Apr 5, 2024 7:26am
Quoting montygoldy
Matter of fact is i am done with forex prop firms except ftmo. I joined forces to make good money not measely 1k or 2k a month. One firm after another coming up different ways to stop you pay a single dime. Not once this is my fifth instance with different firms where they blatantly denied me for being profitable and win fair n square. When you spend so much effort to pass whiich hardly 10% do it as their own email states and then as me i have go fight for each n every thing. This is not worth my time and efforts. I am officially moving on to FUTURES...
I plan on getting 40-50 accounts and making $50-100 per day. All copied in quantower. I was going to aim for $200 with 20....but making half with double the accounts is much easier.
  • #34,158
  • Apr 5, 2024 7:26am Apr 5, 2024 7:26am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} The analogy is flawless. The government doesn't need to protect me from "sophisticated financial products". If you're idiot who takes no personal responsibility for your own decisions then you deserve to lose all your money, die of cancer from smoking, and die of liver failure for being a drunk. Nothing the government can do, or say, or regulate will stop a person FROM making moronic decisions. We're done here. Consider yourself educated. It's the least I could do as a thank you for idiotic but entertaining posts.
CFDs were designed a sophisticated / complex financial product. They're not a simple savings account with your bank. Fine for those with the experience and qualifications who understood them.

However, as expected, brokers etc got greedy and aimed them at people who they weren't suitable for and focused near-exclusively on a model where they were directly profiting from the losses of the people they were targeting. The people they knew they shouldn't be targeting and people they'd 'help' through the KYC / product knowledge. People they'd then treat like gamblers and have sales teams to offer bonuses etc to make redeposits, offer gifts and other things for high net worth individuals.

Far, far away from the design of the CFD. The greedy institutions brought scrutiny upon themselves.

Obviously you and others on this forum can self-govern all aspects if your life, but for most mere mortals there's a balance to be struck in a functioning, civilised democracy between personal freedom and responsibility and laws / regulations. Thankfully we have a balance even with the things you've listed. Tobacco; age restricted, health warnings, strict licencing and production requirements, BUT, the freedom / individual responsibility for one to smoke as many as they can afford.

A balance.

With CFDs (outside the US, remember there is a place), there's a similar balance.

Not that it'd be a worry for you and other trading gods here. You can have a 'professional' trading account if you meet two of the three criteria:

1) Relevant qualifications and experience.
2) 500k in investments
3) Experience trading CFDs.

With everyone's 2 billion in simulated funding, 2) shouldn't be an issue for anyone
  • #34,159
  • Apr 5, 2024 7:28am Apr 5, 2024 7:28am
The reality for CFD props is their model doesn't work without payout denial of flat out scamming like the TFT bunch.

The industry needs to shift to more realistic rules like the Futures space has (perhaps not that far). 5%ers is a slightly different, but look what FTMO have had to do with rules around 'gambling'.

They're the firm to take the industry's temperature with.
  • #34,160
  • Apr 5, 2024 7:35am Apr 5, 2024 7:35am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} and the big payout you received (I forget the firm)....you had to fight for that one as well and they banned you after the payout....am I remebering correctly? lol, good thing they shut down the one firm where none of this bullshit occurred...........
exactly skilled traders 400k gone poof had 21k there in total ready for payout..... T
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