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  • #33,721
  • Mar 30, 2024 5:06pm Mar 30, 2024 5:06pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} how big is the chance that this winners are just names on a list and thats all? simple cheap marketing, and works good with a lot of unexperienced greedy people : how many people believe in coaches who cant show any good performance over many years and book their courses (so crazy, but exists many thousand times)? same crazy people who believe a company about a list of winning people (can be pure fantasy or pure designed payouts inside own structure, so easy to do and perfect marketing). until many unexperienced greedy people exist, this...
I'm not in Apex yet, but follow them on IG, and they post their highest monthly payouts on there - top was $1.3M for the month - and I'm assuming since futures is heavily regulated they can't just make up names on a list like some offshore forex broker with a P.O. box in the Seychelles
  • #33,722
  • Mar 30, 2024 5:06pm Mar 30, 2024 5:06pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} If people weren't getting paid, we all would be hearing about it.
if they dont exist why they should complain? we speak about many people on a list in high amounts, not pay out the small average joe with small thousands of USD.
  • #33,723
  • Mar 30, 2024 5:07pm Mar 30, 2024 5:07pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} a fresh start. But already trying to reverse trade and steal money it seems
if all true its completley insane to set up as unofficial regulator/ defender of the trader, then try scam props.

Fed up of the whole space at the moment. Twitters awash with firms/ceos back slapping trying to form jerk circles, saviours of the industry, friend to the trader BS. Tiring.
  • #33,724
  • Mar 30, 2024 5:08pm Mar 30, 2024 5:08pm
Quoting TheDoug
{quote} I'm not in Apex yet, but follow them on IG, and they post their highest monthly payouts on there - top was $1.3M for the month - and I'm assuming since futures is heavily regulated they can't just make up names on a list like some offshore forex broker with a P.O. box in the Seychelles
you can, even very very easy. its your company. thats in general always possible for any broker or company.
  • #33,725
  • Mar 30, 2024 5:12pm Mar 30, 2024 5:12pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} if they dont exist why they should complain? we speak about many people on a list in high amounts, not pay out the small average joe with small thousands of USD.
They do publish the list of payouts regularly, including the small ones. Apex Trader Funding - Payouts
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  • #33,726
  • Mar 30, 2024 5:16pm Mar 30, 2024 5:16pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} They do publish the list of payouts regularly, including the small ones. Apex Trader Funding - Payouts
i speak only about the big> 100k,500 k and above. so higher what a good experienced trader normally makes /month in private account.

small money will paid often when cant be cheated away by break rules.

the big payouts list will be used for commercial, without hold a big youtube channel (so they lose more clients when get publish they dont pay) or other your chance to get this high payout (after earning this) is not a high chance. this lists are for commercial, to make people greedy.
  • #33,727
  • Mar 30, 2024 5:21pm Mar 30, 2024 5:21pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} i speak only about the big> 100k,500 k and above. so higher what a good experienced trader normally makes /month in private account. small money will paid often when cant be cheated away by break rules. the big payouts list will be used for commercial, without hold a big youtube channel (so they lose more clients when get publish they dont pay) or other your chance to get this high payout (after earning this) is not a high chance. this lists are for commercial, to make people greedy.
Spoken like a salty failed trader, best of luck.
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  • #33,728
  • Edited 6:16pm Mar 30, 2024 5:23pm | Edited 6:16pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I personally know some names on the list.....they are paying.
one question: i speak about the big payouts, 100k, 200k, 500k, 1 mi and so on. so often higher what good traders have in private accounts / month.

when you know people on list with smaller payouts, then maybe possible to believe you. why not pay some thousand, you want let your business running when more stay in company against have to pay out.
  • #33,729
  • Mar 30, 2024 5:23pm Mar 30, 2024 5:23pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Spoken like a salty failed trader, best of luck.
spoken like someone with very low wins ( or losses of course, dont know you) who still cant win in private account, good luck
  • #33,730
  • Mar 30, 2024 5:45pm Mar 30, 2024 5:45pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} spoken like someone with very low wins ( or losses of course, dont know you) who still cant win in private account, good luck
You’re relatively new here, so I’ll give you the break you’re afforded. Anyone who has been paying attention (in this thread) knows the only accounts I have are a personal AMP futures account that I’ve had for the past 5-6 years and Apex that I’ve been entertained with since last fall.

So yeah, private account is all I’ve ever known. Prop has always been for sheer entertainment purposes only.
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  • #33,731
  • Mar 30, 2024 6:08pm Mar 30, 2024 6:08pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} You’re relatively new here, so I’ll give you the break you’re afforded. Anyone who has been paying attention (in this thread) knows the only accounts I have are a personal AMP futures account that I’ve had for the past 5-6 years and Apex that I’ve been entertained with since last fall. So yeah, private account is all I’ve ever known. Prop has always been for sheer entertainment purposes only.
i quoted to your sentence before! i still dont understand why you wrote this stupid words, without any argument inside why you wrote it, why you think i am wrong in my arguments and so on..... .
of course then people speak to you same style, when you just write troll language.

that you have private accounts is good point at least (at least when you have 5 or 6 figure balance inside and so its not only training account and have so different values), so you are maybe good trader or bad trader with wins or losses. i cant know, so i will not speculate about.
  • #33,732
  • Mar 30, 2024 6:24pm Mar 30, 2024 6:24pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} i quoted to your sentence before! i still dont understand why you wrote this stupid words, without any argument inside why you wrote it, why you think i am wrong in my arguments and so on..... . of course then people speak to you same style, when you just write troll language. that you have private accounts is good point at least (at least when you have 5 or 6 figure balance inside and so its not only training account and have so different values), so you are maybe good trader or bad trader with wins or losses. i cant know, so i will not...
You’re the one having a speculating meltdown over what others are achieving. I couldn’t care less.
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  • #33,733
  • Mar 30, 2024 7:13pm Mar 30, 2024 7:13pm
Quoting TrAndy1
With Oanda, Hantec and now IC Markets the FX brokers will enter the retail FX prop firm industry. What you can expect from this ? Much more FX props related to FX brokers, and it should be of much better quality in terms of payout stability, because of the ties. This FX prop industry now really started and gets a huge boost. This is just the beginning. Many competitors of IC Markets will follow because they need to stay in place with all the offers IC Markets, the leading FX broker, is doing.
These props are no go’s for US & Australian traders amongst other countries
  • #33,734
  • Mar 30, 2024 7:15pm Mar 30, 2024 7:15pm
Any of these futures prop firms operating without “trailing threshold”?
Thanks
  • #33,735
  • Mar 30, 2024 7:27pm Mar 30, 2024 7:27pm
Quoting DwnUndrTrdr
Any of these futures prop firms operating without “trailing threshold”? Thanks
Look for the static accounts. I think most firms have it but the static drawdown is pretty bad vs the target.

MFFu has/had a good one (1500 dd vs 2100 target) but it seems to be only available on special occasions.
  • #33,736
  • Mar 30, 2024 7:36pm Mar 30, 2024 7:36pm
Quoting maltrader
{quote} Look for the static accounts. I think most firms have it but the static drawdown is pretty bad vs the target. MFFu has/had a good one (1500 dd vs 2100 target) but it seems to be only available on special occasions.
Thanks maltrader
  • #33,737
  • Mar 30, 2024 9:18pm Mar 30, 2024 9:18pm
Quoting Trader191
how big is the chance that this winners are just names on a list and thats all? simple cheap marketing, and works good with a lot of unexperienced greedy people
-All I know is that several people on the list have already been confirmed. I think, it is also not difficult to surmise what is possible.

Quoting Trader191
its internet, full of winners. so in this case i dont trust you.
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  • #33,738
  • Mar 30, 2024 9:36pm Mar 30, 2024 9:36pm
Hello guys! Does anybody here have experience with trading Indices on multiple platforms/prop firms and using copier software successfully?

I've tried doing it with trading the GBPUSD pair and it's manageable since prices don't have huge differences.

But with Indices, looks like the price differences are huge among different prop firms.

I did try Forex Copier and Social Trading Tools.
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  • #33,739
  • Mar 30, 2024 9:48pm Mar 30, 2024 9:48pm
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the lower-level operators have already infiltrated the Futures prop space. Found this "gem" that offers 25 PA accounts:

https://precisionfunding.vip/
  • #33,740
  • Mar 30, 2024 10:57pm Mar 30, 2024 10:57pm
Quoting ranilo.vince
Hello guys! Does anybody here have experience with trading Indices on multiple platforms/prop firms and using copier software successfully? I've tried doing it with trading the GBPUSD pair and it's manageable since prices don't have huge differences. But with Indices, looks like the price differences are huge among different prop firms. I did try Forex Copier and Social Trading Tools.
I was able to trade Nas100 using TradersConnect. Only copied entry and exit, not TP nor SL.

That’s the way to do it. Just copy entry and exit. Also, careful of cfd contract size (1 vs 10).

now, I’m just letting my prop FX accounts burn to the ground. YOLO’d my way out of them.

——

Fully moved to futures. Trade tiny across 20 copied $50k apex accounts. Stress-free with big potential. We shall see.
A snails pace wins the race :-)
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