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  • #33,701
  • Mar 30, 2024 10:40am Mar 30, 2024 10:40am
Look at this response from icmarkets live chat same history with ictrading.com that is them but they just say is separate company for regulatory reasons
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  • #33,702
  • Mar 30, 2024 10:54am Mar 30, 2024 10:54am
Have someone joined the icfunded ? They are saying : "and we're thrilled to offer you an exclusive opportunity for early bird access! "

What is their offer ? How much cost their evaluations?
  • #33,703
  • Mar 30, 2024 10:55am Mar 30, 2024 10:55am
Quoting Eren10
Have someone joined the icfunded ? They are saying : "and we're thrilled to offer you an exclusive opportunity for early bird access! " What is their offer ? How much cost their evaluations?
I joined but there is no offer so far. They are talking about end of April but no confirmation. Maybe next week they will provide more further details. Now you cannot buy anything from them, you can only register to get a promo code when they start and you get informed when it is. That is all.
  • #33,704
  • Mar 30, 2024 10:58am Mar 30, 2024 10:58am
With Oanda, Hantec and now IC Markets the FX brokers will enter the retail FX prop firm industry. What you can expect from this ?

Much more FX props related to FX brokers, and it should be of much better quality in terms of payout stability, because of the ties.
This FX prop industry now really started and gets a huge boost. This is just the beginning.

Many competitors of IC Markets will follow because they need to stay in place with all the offers IC Markets, the leading FX broker, is doing.
  • #33,705
  • Mar 30, 2024 11:03am Mar 30, 2024 11:03am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} I joined but there is no offer so far. They are talking about end of April but no confirmation. Maybe next week they will provide more further details. Now you cannot buy anything from them, you can only register to get a promo code when they start and you get informed when it is. That is all.
Will be worth it if they give 50% discount Else Alpha Capital will give 40% .
  • #33,706
  • Mar 30, 2024 11:07am Mar 30, 2024 11:07am
Quoting Eren10
{quote} Will be worth it if they give 50% discount Else Alpha Capital will give 40% .
Prop firms that give huge discounts are not gonna stay here f or long time believe me
  • #33,707
  • Mar 30, 2024 12:08pm Mar 30, 2024 12:08pm
Quoting TheDoug
Does every futures prop firm offer a one-time fee vs the monthly fees? They are really good at hiding that information unless you deep dive into the FAQ.
I think all require an activation fee once you pass the cheap eval. You can choose whether to keep paying an increased monthly fee or a one-time activation fee then.


Edit: Just remembered myfundedfutures doesn't have an activation fee but you pay more upfront, I suppose.
  • #33,708
  • Mar 30, 2024 12:23pm Mar 30, 2024 12:23pm
Quoting Novazor
{quote} Prop firms that give huge discounts are not gonna stay here f or long time believe me
Depends totally on the failure rate. Just guessing, one success out of hundred would give them good profit.

we see stories that they try to not pay big sums of wins.

It would be interesting to know how much the fee should cost to not worry about large wins of about 25000. MFF was also not the expensivest, I don’t know if they also refused to pay large sums.
  • #33,709
  • Mar 30, 2024 12:51pm Mar 30, 2024 12:51pm
Quoting Eren10
{quote} Depends totally on the failure rate. Just guessing, one success out of hundred would give them good profit. we see stories that they try to not pay big sums of wins. It would be interesting to know how much the fee should cost to not worry about large wins of about 25000. MFF was also not the expensivest, I don’t know if they also refused to pay large sums.
Yeah but only time will tell
  • #33,710
  • Mar 30, 2024 12:56pm Mar 30, 2024 12:56pm
Quoting TrAndy1
Official link seems a serious source: https://financialcommission.org/2024...nded-platform/
Weird since they dont accept Hong Kong.
  • #33,711
  • Mar 30, 2024 1:02pm Mar 30, 2024 1:02pm
Quoting Nsak3y
Looks like Apex has approximately 140K active customers at the moment. They have paid out approximately 49M over the last three months. That would require that each customer has averaged a $350 investment into the program during that three-month period. I would bet that the average investment is more like 2 to 7 times that amount, at least. Additionally, it has been confirmed that the traders that show exceptional skill and are earning 1M/month or similar, that they will move them to a live account, even if they have not yet finished out their 3-month...
how big is the chance that this winners are just names on a list and thats all? simple cheap marketing, and works good with a lot of unexperienced greedy people : how many people believe in coaches who cant show any good performance over many years and book their courses (so crazy, but exists many thousand times)? same crazy people who believe a company about a list of winning people (can be pure fantasy or pure designed payouts inside own structure, so easy to do and perfect marketing). until many unexperienced greedy people exist, this style of marketing will work.
  • #33,712
  • Mar 30, 2024 1:35pm Mar 30, 2024 1:35pm
Quoting Novazor
icmarkets live chat same history with ictrading.com that is them but they just say is separate company for regulatory reasons

And it is.

What they’re not telling you is that it’s that way because they choose for it to be that way, because they don’t want their customers’ accounts being regulated by a proper regulator, if they can avoid it.

Does that tell you what you need to know about them? (If not, you're beyond help.)
  • #33,713
  • Mar 30, 2024 1:36pm Mar 30, 2024 1:36pm
Propsafe.io is Jessica ghaney.
  • #33,714
  • Mar 30, 2024 1:43pm Mar 30, 2024 1:43pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} And it is. What they’re not telling you is that it’s that way because they choose for it to be that way, because they don’t want their customers’ accounts being regulated by a proper regulator, if they can avoid it. Does that tell you what you need to know about them? (If not, you're beyond help.)
I know the dark truth about retail cfds broker bro dont need to enlight me, but i know that excess regulation kills markets too
  • #33,715
  • Mar 30, 2024 1:44pm Mar 30, 2024 1:44pm
Quoting Takisd
Propsafe.io is Jessica ghaney.
Didnt she tell she was gonna leave the industrry or the trading thing?
  • #33,716
  • Mar 30, 2024 1:48pm Mar 30, 2024 1:48pm
Quoting Novazor
{quote} Didnt she tell she was gonna leave the industrry or the trading thing?
a fresh start. But already trying to reverse trade and steal money it seems
  • #33,717
  • Mar 30, 2024 2:08pm Mar 30, 2024 2:08pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} how big is the chance that this winners are just names on a list and thats all? simple cheap marketing, and works good with a lot of unexperienced greedy people : how many people believe in coaches who cant show any good performance over many years and book their courses (so crazy, but exists many thousand times)? same crazy people who believe a company about a list of winning people (can be pure fantasy or pure designed payouts inside own structure, so easy to do and perfect marketing). until many unexperienced greedy people exist, this...
I personally know some names on the list.....they are paying.
  • #33,718
  • Mar 30, 2024 2:48pm Mar 30, 2024 2:48pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I personally know some names on the list.....they are paying.
If people weren't getting paid, we all would be hearing about it.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #33,719
  • Mar 30, 2024 2:54pm Mar 30, 2024 2:54pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} If people weren't getting paid, we all would be hearing about it.
yup, and I personally know one of the traders on the Apex leaderboard myself.
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #33,720
  • Mar 30, 2024 3:04pm Mar 30, 2024 3:04pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I personally know some names on the list.....they are paying.
i stoped trusting people when there is big reason to cheat and chance is very low.

so many told me this words and was always liar, by was liar themself, was told wrong facts by others (very often!) and so did know wrong facts and believed other liars or not experienced enough.

its internet, full of winners. so in this case i dont trust you.
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