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  • #33,121
  • Mar 15, 2024 11:51am Mar 15, 2024 11:51am
Quoting JustPipMe
I am all Apex all the time. I’ve almost abandoned my FX prop accounts, and still funded on several. No suspicious thoughts enter my head when trading Apex challenges / pa’s. For now anyway, I see no toxicity.

Hi JustPipMe,

It is good you've found one good one among the many that are out there. I hear good things about Apex from others. I will soon travel to them soon. May I ask what platform you're using? Best of trading to you.
  • #33,122
  • Mar 15, 2024 11:55am Mar 15, 2024 11:55am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I was going to go hiking today but I decided I'll stay home and watch your demo account progression.

LMOA I was going to do that too, but it seems he had second thoughts. I be the girlfriend scolded him lol.
  • #33,123
  • Mar 15, 2024 12:18pm Mar 15, 2024 12:18pm
Quoting JustPipMe
I am all Apex all the time. I’ve almost abandoned my FX prop accounts, and still funded on several. No suspicious thoughts enter my head when trading Apex challenges / pa’s. For now anyway, I see no toxicity.
Same here. Only fear is these 20 yr old CEOs coming over and ruining this space (futures props) now.. Just as I warned would happen 2 yrs ago in the forex props......Matt, Angelo, Bespoke, Maven, if you're reading.....stay away from futures, please. We can't have you ruin another income stream. Thank You.
  • #33,124
  • Mar 15, 2024 12:20pm Mar 15, 2024 12:20pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Wait for Karl and Quick to show up and you won't sleep well during te weekend.
They should be proud........we are trading futures.
  • #33,125
  • Mar 15, 2024 1:01pm Mar 15, 2024 1:01pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} They should be proud........we are trading futures.
And swearing that it's not a videogame.
  • #33,126
  • Mar 15, 2024 1:19pm Mar 15, 2024 1:19pm
Futures firms feel way more scammy to me but I will still trade them because trading jeebus told me to.
  • #33,127
  • Mar 15, 2024 1:44pm Mar 15, 2024 1:44pm
Quoting acetrader
{quote} Hi JustPipMe, It is good you've found one good one among the many that are out there. I hear good things about Apex from others. I will soon travel to them soon. May I ask what platform you're using? Best of trading to you.
I'm using Ninjatrader 8 on my desktop
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #33,128
  • Mar 15, 2024 1:46pm Mar 15, 2024 1:46pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Same here. Only fear is these 20 yr old CEOs coming over and ruining this space (futures props) now.. Just as I warned would happen 2 yrs ago in the forex props......Matt, Angelo, Bespoke, Maven, if you're reading.....stay away from futures, please. We can't have you ruin another income stream. Thank You.
They 100% will. Probably with new fake headshots and aliases. Scammers, all of them.
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #33,129
  • Mar 15, 2024 1:57pm Mar 15, 2024 1:57pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Now that you mention this I remember that in my refund (still normal refund, not a bonus) Alpha refunded the wrong amount. I had purchased with a code that entitled me to 150% (I just checked my records now) and they only refunded 100%. I had to request the remaining amount in the next payout in comments (they are not flexible to correct their mistake - at the same time I had a similar experience with 5ers and I got the error difference in Deel in about an hour after contacting support). And I already had to do KYC verification 3 or 4 times...
Been getting paid out by them for the past 8 months and it has been noticeably slower now. Used to be that I make my request and get it approved and paid within a few hours. Now it takes over 36 hours and I can't trade my account after the withdrawal, so I lose 2 trading days. The last new funded account I had, they didn't refund my fees even after I made a request and gave them the code used to purchase the account. I guess I will have to explicitly state the amount in the next withdrawal.
  • #33,130
  • Mar 15, 2024 2:40pm Mar 15, 2024 2:40pm
Quoting JustPipMe
{quote} They 100% will. Probably with new fake headshots and aliases. Scammers, all of them.
MFFx was the first to arrive. No way the other scammers will leave the big US futures cake without trying to steal a big slice.
  • #33,131
  • Mar 15, 2024 2:42pm Mar 15, 2024 2:42pm
Quoting Capablanca
I as surprised by the admission, even if those were fabricated numbers. Admitting publicly thatyou don't pay 10% is not something I would expect.
-I am even more surprised that people are still trading with them. That many payout rejections just shows how disorganized and out of touch they really are.

Meanwhile, been looking at Apex Trader Funding more and more these days. 30% of their total payouts over the last 2 years, happened within the last 90 days. It is no wonder why.
  • #33,132
  • Mar 15, 2024 3:02pm Mar 15, 2024 3:02pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} They should be proud........we are trading futures.
I congratulate you on it, and more importantly wish you the great success you deserve with it.
  • #33,133
  • Mar 15, 2024 3:46pm Mar 15, 2024 3:46pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-I am even more surprised that people are still trading with them. That many payout rejections just shows how disorganized and out of touch they really are. Meanwhile, been looking at Apex Trader Funding more and more these days. 30% of their total payouts over the last 2 years, happened within the last 90 days. It is no wonder why.
It is because they started 1 day pass out. Since Dec 27th. So there will be huge payouts but dont forget there will be 10 times more evaluation failures or signups.
  • #33,134
  • Mar 15, 2024 4:02pm Mar 15, 2024 4:02pm
Quoting Takisd
Futures firms feel way more scammy to me but I will still trade them because trading jeebus told me to.
I've not looked at them for a while, but my impression was there was pretty much zero chance of getting a payout from them with all the rules / barriers.
  • #33,135
  • Mar 15, 2024 4:07pm Mar 15, 2024 4:07pm
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}I've not looked at them for a while, but my impression was there was pretty much zero chance of getting a payout from them with all the rules / barriers.
I am close to one but its really not worth it. I could have earned way more with similar capital to my original DD with a deposit.

So I will collect payout then kill the account as I only really did it to say I have done it. Maybe in April I will start in eval props again but not yet, waiting for Metatrader to confirm no more action against firms who don't accept US.
  • #33,136
  • Mar 15, 2024 4:13pm Mar 15, 2024 4:13pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} I am close to one but its really not worth it. I could have earned way more with similar capital to my original DD with a deposit. So I will collect payout then kill the account as I only really did it to say I have done it. Maybe in April I will start in eval props again but not yet, waiting for Metatrader to confirm no more action against firms who don't accept US.
Assuming no further metatrader action, which firms would you eval with? Presumably your only considering those still offering mt4/5.
  • #33,137
  • Mar 15, 2024 4:18pm Mar 15, 2024 4:18pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} I am close to one but its really not worth it. I could have earned way more with similar capital to my original DD with a deposit. So I will collect payout then kill the account as I only really did it to say I have done it. Maybe in April I will start in eval props again but not yet, waiting for Metatrader to confirm no more action against firms who don't accept US.
Me too Takisd all the rules trading days ect 30% is not my style as i swing trade most and for me less and better trades is what helps me be profitable and apex rules just pushes us to trade more and is more risky and more people fail
  • #33,138
  • Mar 15, 2024 4:21pm Mar 15, 2024 4:21pm
What's everyone thinking of the new trading platforms that have been forced on us? I've now unfortunately tried all the various platforms, Ctrader is my preferred option.
  • #33,139
  • Mar 15, 2024 4:26pm Mar 15, 2024 4:26pm
Quoting DeltaCapital
{quote} Me too Takisd all the rules trading days ect 30% is not my style as i swing trade most and for me less and better trades is what helps me be profitable and apex rules just pushes us to trade more and is more risky and more people fail
You can make 10K a day as long as you are willing to make 30K before making withdrawal request. It is actually better than forex prop firms once withdrawal threshold is passed.
Consider if you have 50K account with allowed trailing drawdown of 2.5k. Let say you make 10K on the account you have 10K of allowed drawdown daily no limit. Yea swing trading is difficult as trailing drawdown will kill account but scalping for 5-10 points in future is better as futures prop firms has awesome spreads 1 tick. Imagine forex prop firms have atleast 4-8 ticks spread.
  • #33,140
  • Mar 15, 2024 4:31pm Mar 15, 2024 4:31pm
Quoting JustPipMe
{quote} I'm using Ninjatrader 8 on my desktop
Thank you, my friend. Best of trades to you.
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