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  • #32,701
  • Mar 7, 2024 7:42am Mar 7, 2024 7:42am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} which one is UWM ?
United wealths management or whatever illiterate crap.
  • #32,702
  • Mar 7, 2024 7:43am Mar 7, 2024 7:43am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} and all STILL operational, yet MFF is not.....the system is broken....big time.
MFF were scammers, everyone knows that !

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In the meantime I received new Funded Engineer credentials (second transition after Blueberry shove them off).

Now they have MT5 in something branded as FE-MARKETS and server FEMarketsCorp-Live
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I don't get how these props go on using Meta.
  • #32,703
  • Mar 7, 2024 7:49am Mar 7, 2024 7:49am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} MFF were scammers, everyone knows that ! ----------------------------- In the meantime I received new Funded Engineer credentials (second transition after Blueberry shove them off). Now they have MT5 in something branded as FE-MARKETS and server FEMarketsCorp-Live {image} I don't get how these props go on using Meta.
It is their own server like FTMO etc. They announced it was coming ages ago. Its more likely to stand the test of time i think but the messages coming from metaquotes is a bit weird. One person says even FTMO will be removed other says that own server is the only thing accepted (so to control the market place).

I can imagine if metaquotes got a request for easton tech information the stress. Because all of those crap props using 3 or 4 different brokers with illegal agreements. No idea where the data is and who it belongs to.

I write this with many wink wink nudge nudges.
  • #32,704
  • Mar 7, 2024 7:51am Mar 7, 2024 7:51am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} MFF were scammers, everyone knows that ! ----------------------------- In the meantime I received new Funded Engineer credentials (second transition after Blueberry shove them off). Now they have MT5 in something branded as FE-MARKETS and server FEMarketsCorp-Live {image} I don't get how these props go on using Meta.
So now they have their own like MFF did, FTMO, TFF, the 5%ers. It will work for as long as Meta doesn't realize they are a prop....couple of hours, maybe a couple of days. This is like watching a soap opera.
  • #32,705
  • Mar 7, 2024 7:52am Mar 7, 2024 7:52am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} and all STILL operational, yet MFF is not.....the system is broken....big time.
I mean if you (CFTC) want to pass yourselves off as regulators who protect and serve the public.....then fucking regulate already. Are you going to tell me you didn't know before the MFF case, you didn't know these other firms existed, and even if I buy that bullshit, certainly you are aware of their existence now!
  • #32,706
  • Mar 7, 2024 7:56am Mar 7, 2024 7:56am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} It is their own server like FTMO etc. They announced it was coming ages ago. Its more likely to stand the test of time i think but the messages coming from metaquotes is a bit weird. One person says even FTMO will be removed other says that own server is the only thing accepted (so to control the market place). I can imagine if metaquotes got a request for easton tech information the stress. Because all of those crap props using 3 or 4 different brokers with illegal agreements. No idea where the data is and who it belongs to. I write this...
As a US customer, the 5%ers (in process) amd FTMO have migrated me to other platforms. Both insist if you are non US, there is no issue with Meta. Probably worthless info as the 5%ers insisted right up until the very day that even US would continue on MT5 because they owned their own license. Obviously, that is not the case.
  • #32,707
  • Mar 7, 2024 8:02am Mar 7, 2024 8:02am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} As a US customer, the 5%ers (in process) amd FTMO have migrated me to other platforms. Both insist if you are non US, there is no issue with Meta. Probably worthless info as the 5%ers insisted right up until the very day that even US would continue on MT5 because they owned their own license. Obviously, that is not the case.
I have been speaking to metaquotes for a customer of mine (Broker) and it comes up in conversation.

I dont know what the cause of all this is, but I know its not what is being reported/spoken about. It looks like they were asked for info and couldnt give it due to the 3rd party brokers having it all and mixing it up with various contracts. But no one will confirm, Metaquotes are really cagey about the subject too and just repeat "anyone who doesnt breach the contract is fine"
  • #32,708
  • Mar 7, 2024 8:27am Mar 7, 2024 8:27am
Quoting Takisd
"anyone who doesnt breach the contract is fine"
-Perhaps Meta wants to have their cake and eat it too. Having their cake by shielding themselves (via brokers/firms having their own server, removing liability concerns for Meta and allowing wiggle room to claim ignorance), and eating their cake (via brokers/firms either willing to cut Meta in on demo accounts, or, by covering the costs to support the accounts via their own server). All speculation, obviously.
  • #32,709
  • Mar 7, 2024 8:36am Mar 7, 2024 8:36am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Perhaps Meta wants to have their cake and eat it too. Having their cake by shielding themselves (via brokers/firms having their own server, removing liability concerns for Meta and allowing wiggle room to claim ignorance), and eating their cake (via brokers/firms either willing to cut Meta in on demo accounts, or, by covering the costs to support the accounts via their own server). All speculation, obviously.
It was my original thought, but they aren't onboarding props anymore. What is there is there pretty much. Rest have to get a broker license etc. To me it appears that something has happened beyond what we already know.
  • #32,710
  • Mar 7, 2024 8:36am Mar 7, 2024 8:36am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} I have been speaking to metaquotes for a customer of mine (Broker) and it comes up in conversation. I dont know what the cause of all this is, but I know its not what is being reported/spoken about. It looks like they were asked for info and couldnt give it due to the 3rd party brokers having it all and mixing it up with various contracts. But no one will confirm, Metaquotes are really cagey about the subject too and just repeat "anyone who doesnt breach the contract is fine"
So those props getting mt5 license but TFF coudlnt regain theirs would you know why Takisd?
  • #32,711
  • Mar 7, 2024 8:38am Mar 7, 2024 8:38am
Quoting DeltaCapital
{quote} So those props getting mt5 license but TFF coudlnt regain theirs would you know why Takisd?
Other than FTMO and 5ers, it seems the others all have some sort of offshore broker license. TFF didn't, was on the red list and went via a third party without meta's knowledge. They will never work with them again directly.
  • #32,712
  • Mar 7, 2024 9:08am Mar 7, 2024 9:08am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} yes voyage is angelo. So is rocket21, skilledfunded, Leveled up, TFT, secure the bag, rumor that UWM is also (and its a scam). All of them are essentially scamming at the same time.
I have also passed their challenge but I have a minor problem in verification and I am trying to contact them everyday to solve the problem but they are not responding at all. It’s like their support team has died
  • #32,713
  • Mar 7, 2024 9:08am Mar 7, 2024 9:08am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} AMP can be quite confusing to find out information. MT5 is free to use but you need to pay exchange data feed data ($10/month for CME indexes, for example). I'm not sure if there are several data feed bridges for MT5. I don't think so. I think it's CQG and you pay an additional $0.1 per contract / per round (so $0.2 per contract round trip). The best is to look here and simulate the commissions depending on the platform (then you add the monthly fee of the platform if that's not free like MT5). https://portal.ampclearing.com/accou...sionquote.aspx...
Thanks Capa, for me it seems AMP is good clearing broker sadly they closing their cysec branch
  • #32,714
  • Mar 7, 2024 9:09am Mar 7, 2024 9:09am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Other than FTMO and 5ers, it seems the others all have some sort of offshore broker license. TFF didn't, was on the red list and went via a third party without meta's knowledge. They will never work with them again directly.
please can you suggest a good prop firm in which we can trust
  • #32,715
  • Mar 7, 2024 9:12am Mar 7, 2024 9:12am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I read that voyage (which is the one with a lot of glitches in TFT) is owned by Angelo. Not sure if Takisd or anyone else is able to confirm it. According to NOK in twitter, yesterday all of Angelo's received the same message (the one I posted before) about payouts: TFT, SFT, STB and Rocket21
yeah there is something fishy going on and their discord room is full of complaints. Everyone seems to be having a problem with them
  • #32,716
  • Mar 7, 2024 9:17am Mar 7, 2024 9:17am
Quoting rehmatkhan00
{quote} I have also passed their challenge but I have a minor problem in verification and I am trying to contact them everyday to solve the problem but they are not responding at all. It’s like their support team has died
You were unlucky of choosing one of the worse props to do a challenge. Good luck.

FTMO or 5ers are much safer choices (if there is anything safe these days).
  • #32,717
  • Mar 7, 2024 9:18am Mar 7, 2024 9:18am
Quoting rehmatkhan00
{quote} please can you suggest a good prop firm in which we can trust
This month, no. Next month I think things will be clearer and its worth perhaps risking going into props again. Thats my personal approach from here. I think the situation will be clear after 31 march.
  • #32,718
  • Mar 7, 2024 9:35am Mar 7, 2024 9:35am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} This month, no. Next month I think things will be clearer and its worth perhaps risking going into props again. Thats my personal approach from here. I think the situation will be clear after 31 march.
I will wait then and I am not going to take any risk and thank you for suggestion
  • #32,719
  • Mar 7, 2024 9:39am Mar 7, 2024 9:39am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} You were unlucky of choosing one of the worse props to do a challenge. Good luck. FTMO or 5ers are much safer choices (if there is anything safe these days).
actually they offered me a really good Offer and gave me a discount. Beside, there were some positive reviews on trustpilot but most of them look fake to me now.
  • #32,720
  • Mar 7, 2024 9:53am Mar 7, 2024 9:53am
Quoting Takisd
This month, no. Next month I think things will be clearer and its worth perhaps risking going into props again. Thats my personal approach from here. I think the situation will be clear after 31 march.
-The gentleman doth revealeth too much, methinks.
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