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  • #29,201
  • Feb 4, 2024 9:35am Feb 4, 2024 9:35am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} My file is not much more sophisticated than something like this: {image}
I understand & appreciate you included your template Capablanca.

Perhaps in time if there's many requests and justifies the time input a fully automated version can be created and deployed for use of the FF Traders who desire something like that. It's a little time consuming for the foundational work but once deployed it will allow seamless data pivots exceptionally robust and provide analytics as a value-added process.

I created an Excel workbook way back in 2018 which pulls data from Metatrader and automatically plugs in the prices of the 28 pairs across timeframes into my Excel sheet for expression of a Currency Heat Map. That was before Baby Pips launched Market Milk & their Free, extremely dynamic heat map across Multiple TimeFrames.

I switched to that heat map back then when I needed a heat map as opposed to now where glancing at the 28 pair grid yields a subliminal heat map by inspection so ironically, I use neither my hardwork created Excel sheet nor Baby Pips Heat Map.

Apologies if my enquiry wasted your time. I asked based on observing a few Traders enquiring of recent on this thread.
My success is due to The Great Napoleon Hill. May His Name Live Forever
  • #29,202
  • Feb 4, 2024 9:38am Feb 4, 2024 9:38am
Quoting Desbinary
I enquired for the benefit of likely helping those who don't have that rudimentary understanding of Excel functionality. For them, if an open source template is available which extracts & plugs in the raw data into their workbook it would help them with a plug & play solution which serves the purpose of crunching the data for them whilst eliminating typos causing formula errors.
-Probably, what you are talking about would be even more complicated than a basic excel file, since that raw data would need to be fed from various locations, requiring the user to plug into all of their prop accounts with login credentials and possibly having to manually alter the file to accommodate additional accounts etc., which is not something that others could do for them without taking on risk.

Using a basic excel file may be faster at the end of the day, especially when you consider the possible maintenance of adding/removing accounts, as well as accounting for any website changes that could cause the feed to become broken etc..
  • #29,203
  • Feb 4, 2024 9:39am Feb 4, 2024 9:39am
Quoting Capablanca
True but not easier. IMO Now it's easy because they just need to produce a certificate.
-If we are just talking about certificates, then I would agree, of course. But since you mentioned the blockchain, I assume that you were making a reference to disproving their claims.

If we look at it from a perspective of convincing traders with fake payouts, then the blockchain will only help with that, making things easier (by adding a layer of legitimacy). This was my meaning.

The firm does not technically need to use a 3rd-party processor to do that, unless Rize or some other company has primary wallets that can be easily tracked, but even so, some firms may benefit greatly and be willing to take the hit on fees and so forth.
  • #29,204
  • Feb 4, 2024 9:49am Feb 4, 2024 9:49am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Probably, what you are talking about would be even more complicated than a basic excel file, since that raw data would need to be fed from various locations, requiring the user to plug into all of their prop accounts with login credentials and possibly having to manually alter the file to accommodate additional accounts etc., which is not something that others could do for them without taking on risk. Using a basic excel file may be faster at the end of the day, especially when you consider the possible maintenance of adding/removing accounts,...
Hello Nsak3ky;

I trust you're well & thanks for your feedback.

You're right on with the challenges which could present as barriers which is the reason why I suggested that there be a proxy foundational layer document where the feed funnels into which is not macro driven & only houses raw numerical integers.

From there, at the specified timeframe or if the Trader concerned hits refresh, such as how we refresh & force an Outlook Server for new e-mail the data would pull into the formula driven workbook which would crunch all the data from the various brokers at once.

I concede it requires a fair amount of work & one has to justify the input of time and trouble shooting but once fully operational it will serve Traders who need to crunch data real time. Especially those who trade moderate to larger position sizes since they would be concerned about their positions held overnight.

This is since there would be fields which add factor in overnight carry (especially the negative ones), triple swap nights which some brokers have & market roll-over spread widening.

These variables would likely be causing some Traders to hard breach & if the data warned them earlier they could either liquidate orders which could cause the hard breach or take other measures as they deem best suited to mitigate losing the account.

All in all, it's a fairly long road & ambitious since it has considerable moving parts however I am certain given your generally positive outlook you won't conclude that it's impossible.

Thank You for your time & May The Markets Go With You.
My success is due to The Great Napoleon Hill. May His Name Live Forever
  • #29,205
  • Feb 4, 2024 9:53am Feb 4, 2024 9:53am
Quoting navk
{quote}I do not know why people getting into loss/profit situation of Individuals. I fail to understand. What is your gain or what you are going to learn in knowing Monty's profit/loss calculations.
There is none. It is just anti-prop, pro regualtion agenda
  • #29,206
  • Feb 4, 2024 10:27am Feb 4, 2024 10:27am
Is MFF back ? I have access to similar websites, but different website names like:
https://www.myforrexfunds.com/
https://myfundsforex.com/

Is that all fake ? If not how is the business proceeding now ? I had 3 live account with total $600k funded with profits on them.
  • #29,207
  • Feb 4, 2024 10:33am Feb 4, 2024 10:33am
Quoting Desbinary
there be a proxy foundational layer document where the feed funnels into which is not macro driven & only houses raw numerical integers. .../... I am certain given your generally positive outlook you won't conclude that it's impossible.
-It was my understanding that the purpose of the file would be to pull trading data from various prop firm accounts. As such, you would need to have login credentials added to the file to be able to access that data, as well as any manual maintenance for adding/removing accounts and working around various interface changes etc.. Unless I misunderstood something.

All of this is possible, but if we are talking in terms of a user-friendly file that would be easier to work with than a simple excel file, then I am not aware of any way to do that without having an assigned custodian of sorts.
  • #29,208
  • Feb 4, 2024 10:39am Feb 4, 2024 10:39am
Quoting TrAndy1
Is that all fake ?
-If we allow common sense to dictate, then we would have to assume that these sites are fake clones.
  • #29,209
  • Feb 4, 2024 10:39am Feb 4, 2024 10:39am
Quoting TrAndy1
Is MFF back ? I have access to similar websites, but different website names like: https://www.myforrexfunds.com/ https://myfundsforex.com/ Is that all fake ? If not how is the business proceeding now ? I had 3 live account with total $600k funded with profits on them.
All fake.

My sign in not going through.
Intraday only.
  • #29,210
  • Feb 4, 2024 10:40am Feb 4, 2024 10:40am
Quoting navk
My sign in not going through.
-But it was captured, undoubtedly.
  • #29,211
  • Feb 4, 2024 10:45am Feb 4, 2024 10:45am
Quoting navk
{quote} All fake. My sign in not going through.
So it is 100% certain that MFF cannot do any comeback ?
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Second, how should I do refunds of my paid challenges with MFF ? Any instructions how to get money back from MFF ?
  • #29,212
  • Feb 4, 2024 10:47am Feb 4, 2024 10:47am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-It was my understanding that the purpose of the file would be to pull trading data from various prop firm accounts. As such, you would need to have login credentials added to the file to be able to access that data, as well as any manual maintenance for adding/removing accounts and working around various interface changes etc.. Unless I misunderstood something. All of this is possible, but if we are talking in terms of a user-friendly file that would be easier to work with than a simple excel file, then I am not aware of any way to do that...
Thanks for your added feedback Nsak3y. Adding the source code is a once off endeavor and the Trader can either follow a step-by-step screen-shot type PDF if they want to do it themselves or anyone who understands it like You, I and most other Traders with Excel competency may RDP them via TeamViewer or similar where we add the account on. Once they "see" how the first one is added, they simply need to rinse & repeat for adding on the rest as & when suited.

There's no need for the actual account login so the credentials are safe. I deployed something similar a few years ago and the source code runs of the native Microsoft backbone with the CSV integrated Excel file.

Given the file is a little "heavy" on the CPU but provided the Trader has adequate RAM and Cloud integration using OneDrive for the links files lightens the end load on the CPU usage considerably.

No matter, I am grateful we were presented this opportunity to ventilate it's core purpose. Should the passage of time reveal an above average use-case we can certainly even collaborate to work in unison and get the file up & running by means of sharing the interphase and ensuring trouble shooting is optimised through open source code.

It will be a wonderful Free of Cost offering to the FF Community as & if there's a need for it as advised.

Thank You again for your time & wishing you a pleasant day ahead.
My success is due to The Great Napoleon Hill. May His Name Live Forever
  • #29,213
  • Feb 4, 2024 10:55am Feb 4, 2024 10:55am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} So it is 100% certain that MFF cannot do any comeback ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80FjElugijo Second, how should I do refunds of my paid challenges with MFF ? Any instructions how to get money back from MFF ?
there is an ongoing case. As such you need to wait until said case has been resolved before the information you are seeking becomes available
  • #29,214
  • Feb 4, 2024 11:00am Feb 4, 2024 11:00am
Quoting TrAndy1
So it is 100% certain that MFF cannot do any comeback ?
-This is not what you were asking about. I think, it would not be advisable for MFF to try to do anything at this moment, and even if they were brave enough to try, then they would certainly not try to do it under the same name, I would expect.
  • #29,215
  • Feb 4, 2024 11:13am Feb 4, 2024 11:13am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} So it is 100% certain that MFF cannot do any comeback ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80FjElugijo Second, how should I do refunds of my paid challenges with MFF ? Any instructions how to get money back from MFF ?
I got my money back for paying for the challange via chargeback, had to send documents with proof that MFF is investigated for fraud. I linked the bank all the documents from this vid
Inserted Video
. I got my money back within a day after that, but for most people it takes months( I haveto give props to Revolut for this). Tbh I don't know if it's not too late for a chargeback for you as it's over 3 months since MFF got shut down but you can try.
  • #29,216
  • Feb 4, 2024 11:28am Feb 4, 2024 11:28am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-This is not what you were asking about. I think, it would not be advisable for MFF to try to do anything at this moment, and even if they were brave enough to try, then they would certainly not try to do it under the same name, I would expect.
I do not think ( do not think ) MFF management trying to do something fishy at this stage.

It could have been done by scamsters.
Intraday only.
  • #29,217
  • Feb 4, 2024 11:32am Feb 4, 2024 11:32am
Quoting navk
{quote}I do not know why people getting into loss/profit situation of Individuals. I fail to understand. What is your gain or what you are going to learn in knowing Monty's profit/loss calculations.
how you calculate if someone can choose prop or own account trading when you dont compare numbers and what make win or not.

he is just beginning, so anything can change.

you should look more on numbers!
  • #29,218
  • Feb 4, 2024 11:35am Feb 4, 2024 11:35am
Quoting TrAndy1
Is MFF back ? I have access to similar websites, but different website names like: https://www.myforrexfunds.com/ https://myfundsforex.com/ Is that all fake ? If not how is the business proceeding now ? I had 3 live account with total $600k funded with profits on them.
Clearly fake.
The original correct url doesn't show anything except their logo:
https://myforexfunds.com/

The fake:
https://www.myforrexfunds.com/ (forrex....)
https://myfundsforex.com (inverted forex and funds)

It's an easy forgery because they know a lot of people are still searching for them and would be easy money to lure people.
  • #29,219
  • Feb 4, 2024 11:35am Feb 4, 2024 11:35am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} how you calculate if someone can choose prop or own account trading when you dont compare numbers and what make win or not. he is just beginning, so anything can change. you should look more on numbers!
Yes, what I am trying to say is everyone will be ( or required to ) doing their calculations.

Others need not get into that. No benifit of checking other's profit/loss.
Intraday only.
  • #29,220
  • Feb 4, 2024 11:36am Feb 4, 2024 11:36am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} how you calculate if someone can choose prop or own account trading when you dont compare numbers and what make win or not. he is just beginning, so anything can change. you should look more on numbers!
No sense at all to compare prop numbers with real trading account number. It's two completely different "business models".
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