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I need 200K euro urgently. Please suggest which system to use

  • #21
  • Dec 17, 2023 8:41pm Dec 17, 2023 8:41pm
I can't believe someone with 15 YEARS of experience made this post
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  • #22
  • Dec 18, 2023 12:56am Dec 18, 2023 12:56am
Quoting NikoArms
I can't believe someone with 15 YEARS of experience made this post
maybe hes only 15 years old….
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #23
  • Dec 18, 2023 1:30am Dec 18, 2023 1:30am
It's challenging to consistently generate profits in trading, especially with such a specific target. Since you're experienced, you might already know most strategies.

However, focusing on high-probability setups, rigorous risk management, and possibly diversifying across different asset classes could help. Also, exploring algorithmic trading or advanced technical analysis might offer new perspectives.

Remember, trading always carries risk, so it's crucial to be cautious with your capital.
  • #24
  • Dec 18, 2023 8:09am Dec 18, 2023 8:09am
Quoting NikoArms
I can't believe someone with 15 YEARS of experience made this post
He hasn't got any experience of anything except begging and scamming. Too idle to work and too dim to study. He doesn't realise that the real battle for a trader is psychological, not methodological. Think, if he could make the effort to do so, that if there was a "winning" method that ignored the mental attributes required of a trader, then the market would crash.
The sad thing is that some take him seriously.
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
  • #25
  • Dec 18, 2023 8:19am Dec 18, 2023 8:19am
Quoting totemg2000
{quote} So glad for you! That you are smarter then me! :-D And does this help you? Do you make more money? Obviously not, since you are here, just like me, hoping to find a holy grail. I even don't know what "rookie talk" means as I don't have English as my first language. At least I was sincere. I see there are few who keep insisting about me begging for money. I only told you this information, that I need that money in 4 months so that the REALLY smart persons understand what kind of profitability I need. A LOT! And I don't need gambling, I am...
And I don't need gambling, I am very experienced. Probably more than you, smart a~s here,
So experienced you have to come here to beg for a system

You are here in the same situation as me,
No, we are not in your "situation" with 15 years experience of unprofitable trading; so unprofitable that you come here begging for a system. Perhaps you could get a job in McDonalds, the pay is probably more than you make failing at trading.
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
  • #26
  • Dec 18, 2023 8:29am Dec 18, 2023 8:29am
Quoting turnip15
{quote} And I don't need gambling, I am very experienced. Probably more than you, smart a~s here, So experienced you have to come here to beg for a system You are here in the same situation as me, No, we are not in your "situation" with 15 years experience of unprofitable trading; so unprofitable that you come here begging for a system. Perhaps you could get a job in McDonalds, the pay is probably more than you make failing at trading.
If stupidity has a face, that's yours! :-D
  • #27
  • Dec 18, 2023 11:32am Dec 18, 2023 11:32am
Should make a SCAMMERs thread. This could be that for example!
And I NEED A MILLION USD! (ok, that s not true, but want to participate! )
  • #28
  • Edited 4:08pm Dec 18, 2023 3:57pm | Edited 4:08pm
Quoting totemg2000
Hi guys! I need to make 200 000 euro in 4 months. I am very experienced trader, I trade for more then 15 years, but I did not succeed to make money. I learned all I could find, but never produced results on long term. Until now, I concentrated on learning, not on making money but now i need the money. Please advise me on what methods or systems you use that produce money for you, even if they require lots of skills. Thank you!
If you think there is such a thing as a mechanical trading system with a handful of variables that any chump can sit and execute and make money....

.....then you have been spending too much time listening to YouTube trading miseducators.

Your Trading System is your understanding of how the markets operate and your eye for where the price areas that the market needs to visit (often based on the SL levels of the mechanical trading system guys), and of course your ability to choose a good entry point, and then your capacity to sit it out as your PnL level cavorts around all over the place.
  • #29
  • Dec 18, 2023 4:13pm Dec 18, 2023 4:13pm
Quoting totemg2000
{quote} If stupidity has a face, that's yours! :-D
lol great come back…. Not…
this thread is becoming a joke and you’re the clown

quality entertainment, keep talking lol
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #30
  • Dec 19, 2023 1:24am Dec 19, 2023 1:24am
Quoting GusParker
{quote} If you think there is such a thing as a mechanical trading system with a handful of variables that any chump can sit and execute and make money.... .....then you have been spending too much time listening to YouTube trading miseducators. Your Trading System is your understanding of how the markets operate and your eye for where the price areas that the market needs to visit (often based on the SL levels of the mechanical trading system guys), and of course your ability to choose a good entry point, and then your capacity to sit it out as...
Thank you for commenting on topic! This is what I was trying to see.... what works in terms of making money for other traders. But my thread got hijacked somehow by so smart and sufficient traders that you start asking what are they doing here.
  • #31
  • Edited 8:12pm Dec 19, 2023 8:00pm | Edited 8:12pm
Quoting totemg2000
{quote} Thank you for commenting on topic! This is what I was trying to see.... what works in terms of making money for other traders. But my thread got hijacked somehow by so smart and sufficient traders that you start asking what are they doing here.
Trading space is full of the blind leading the blind, with many cases of some of the blind charging good money to the other blind. It's easy to see where the concept of a Profitable Trading System comes from. Even the financial institutions with teams of Maths pHd behind their auto trading algos, are constantly deploying and pulling the plug on their mechanical trading systems, so what chance does a retail trader have with a checklist covering a handful of criteria?

It takes thousands of hours to get good at this, including thousands of hours chasing down all the Red Herrings out there, which you have clearly done. But it isn't all in vain. Once you have had your arse handed to you repeatedly using largely the same systems and methods as every other chump has been taught to use, you can start to get good by basically framing the chump trades in your head, and then looking to take the other side of them. That is how I would best explain what I do anyhow (Note, this is NOT the same as simply swapping your SL and TP around). But it would probably be accurate to say that my price targets tend to be around where most other retail traders have their SLs, and my entries will often be around the levels where most other retail traders are trapped from. Most of what the markets do, are simply moving around looking for liquidity, most commonly found in losing traders Stop Loss levels. The market is a parasite and is drawn to wherever the most blood is to be sucked dry.

What it boils down to, is intuition at the end of the day. Whilst you may have trouble getting the market to conform in an overall profitable manner to some hairbrained mechanical system in Real Time, you will certainly have plenty experience of what the market tends to do instead in different circumstances and an intuitive sense of the probabilities in any given configuration and circumstance. So there is that kind of intuition like what a professional sportsman exercises in his game of choice....

...and there is also the sort of 6th sense form of intuition. Not everyone has this in equal measures, but providing you slow down the pace of your trade, take a decent sized position say off the Daily Chart (i.e. giving you at least a few days to get a feel for the intentions of the market you are in), you can get a sense creeping through your sub-conscious mind, informing you whether you are riding a winner, or whether you might want to look to cut the trade earlier.

The above, is how I personally do it these days. Note the lack of anything in what I said that might appeal to a newcomer looking for an easy fix.
  • #32
  • Jan 1, 2024 7:34am Jan 1, 2024 7:34am
Quoting totemg2000
Hi guys! I need to make 200 000 euro in 4 months. I am very experienced trader, I trade for more then 15 years, but I did not succeed to make money. I learned all I could find, but never produced results on long term. Until now, I concentrated on learning, not on making money but now i need the money. Please advise me on what methods or systems you use that produce money for you, even if they require lots of skills. Thank you!
Go for a well-paid job, e.g. as a developer, data scientist, engineer, you may not earn 200,000 euros, but you will not lose it, and at the same time you will gain stability and breathing space for trading. Trading with a target at a specific time is a very bad idea. It's possible, but it's even more impossible.
As for the strategy, just choose what suits you best, test it and refine it on your own mistakes. Fifteen years of study is a lot. In my opinion, during this time you should gain a sense of what strategy is best for you. If you don't have this, not everyone has to be a good trader, so allow yourself this thought, don't force it.
  • #33
  • Jan 6, 2024 1:05pm Jan 6, 2024 1:05pm
Quoting FunkyKoval
{quote} Go for a well-paid job, e.g. as a developer, data scientist, engineer, you may not earn 200,000 euros, but you will not lose it, and at the same time you will gain stability and breathing space for trading. Trading with a target at a specific time is a very bad idea. It's possible, but it's even more impossible. As for the strategy, just choose what suits you best, test it and refine it on your own mistakes. Fifteen years of study is a lot. In my opinion, during this time you should gain a sense of what strategy is best for you. If you don't...
To get one of those jobs he needs education and some experience. All he has is FX experience and still looking for a winning system.
Risk Management is of utmost importance!
  • #34
  • Jan 13, 2024 11:58am Jan 13, 2024 11:58am
Quoting totemg2000
Hi guys! I need to make 200 000 euro in 4 months. I am very experienced trader, I trade for more then 15 years, but I did not succeed to make money. I learned all I could find, but never produced results on long term. Until now, I concentrated on learning, not on making money but now i need the money. Please advise me on what methods or systems you use that produce money for you, even if they require lots of skills. Thank you!
OP, 14 days have passed. How is it going?

Cheers.
  • #35
  • Jan 15, 2024 11:28am Jan 15, 2024 11:28am
Wow, man I don't think you will be able to raise such a sum within this period. Perhaps, but it depends on your capital.
I assume that trading is the best possible options, but if you state that you trade for 15 years and there's still no result, then I don't really know what to advise...
If you have money there's a sense to invest them in business or something liek this, but risks are very high and nobody guarantees quick return.
  • #36
  • Jan 16, 2024 2:35pm Jan 16, 2024 2:35pm
Quoting JTLab
It's challenging to consistently generate profits in trading, especially with such a specific target. Since you're experienced, you might already know most strategies. However, focusing on high-probability setups, rigorous risk management, and possibly diversifying across different asset classes could help. Also, exploring algorithmic trading or advanced technical analysis might offer new perspectives. Remember, trading always carries risk, so it's crucial to be cautious with your capital.
It's not challenging; it's not possible. Interesting how it's going
  • #37
  • Jan 16, 2024 2:46pm Jan 16, 2024 2:46pm
Find works. Spend less than you earn. Put a portion to an index fund. Let it grow, add to it over time. For your trading fix, demo trade trading view.

good luck.
Trading is gambling. So gamble responsibly.
  • #38
  • Jan 23, 2024 3:56am Jan 23, 2024 3:56am
Quoting totemg2000
Hi guys! I need to make 200 000 euro in 4 months. I am very experienced trader, I trade for more then 15 years, but I did not succeed to make money. I learned all I could find, but never produced results on long term. Until now, I concentrated on learning, not on making money but now i need the money. Please advise me on what methods or systems you use that produce money for you, even if they require lots of skills. Thank you!

I guess arbitrage. The biggest issue is to find right assets, right trade venues that will pay and not block profit. Basically look for risk-free opportunities however they are scarce since many are looking for them so they can't exist long.
  • #39
  • Last Post: Feb 27, 2024 2:21am Feb 27, 2024 2:21am
Lmao this guy.... 15 years experience he says and he's acting like he's been trading for a week.

Trading system don't make money, traders make money. Even the best system in the world wont help you if you suck at trading.
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