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  • #25,661
  • Nov 7, 2023 8:49am Nov 7, 2023 8:49am
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} First 10 accounts are now in micro lot minimums to fulfill 7 days trading. 7th day will be tomorrow 11/7. Started another group of 10 with the same daily goals of avg $428. {image} Was a little messier then I liked, but managed it all the same.
Day 2 of 7 with second batch of 50K accounts. $531 booked. Today is day 7 of first group of 10.

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  • #25,662
  • Nov 7, 2023 9:10am Nov 7, 2023 9:10am
For those only using Rithmic in Apex, here are copier instructions:
https://help.futures.topstep.com/hc/...c-Trade-Copier

I could not find instructions for Apex but used this tutorial from TST and it worked well with 2 accounts (I bought a second account to make this experience).

So now I can load a bit more of account in the truck. With the copier things became easier.
  • #25,663
  • Nov 7, 2023 9:22am Nov 7, 2023 9:22am
Quoting Capablanca
For those only using Rithmic in Apex, here are copier instructions: https://help.futures.topstep.com/hc/...c-Trade-Copier I could not find instructions for Apex but used this tutorial from TST and it worked well with 2 accounts (I bought a second account to make this experience). So now I can load a bit more of account in the truck. With the copier things became easier.
Also have seen this earlier, but the question is if that is allowed. Because this is more an order splitted into smaller pieces among different accounts so not exactly a copy trading tool. So why do they sell then for $150 a copy trading tool if that is built-in into Rithmic ? I do not get this what Apex is doing here. So is this allowed or... ?
  • #25,664
  • Edited 9:41am Nov 7, 2023 9:30am | Edited 9:41am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Also have seen this earlier, but the question is if that is allowed. Because this is more an order splitted into smaller pieces among different accounts so not exactly a copy trading tool. So why do they sell then for $150 a copy trading tool if that is built-in into Rithmic ? I do not get this what Apex is doing here. So is this allowed or... ?
Good question. I don't know if that's allowed, I have not contacted them, but this is a functionality of Rithmic itself so may I be penalized for using one of the screens available in Rithmic ? Doesn't make sense if they penalise me.
  • #25,665
  • Nov 7, 2023 9:46am Nov 7, 2023 9:46am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Good question. I don't know if that's allowed, I have not contacted them, but this is a functionality of Rithmic itself so may I be penalized for using one of the screens available in Rithmic ? Doesn't make sense if they do.
The Facebook group had mention that the built in Rithmic copier is problematic. Better to use the Apex trade copier (found under “Tools” Apex Trader Funding - Futures Trading Tools) or Replikanto.

Disregard what Trandy has to say as well. He has a habit of steering people wrong. He has zero experience with Apex and zero experience with futures, despite his claims to the contrary.
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  • #25,666
  • Nov 7, 2023 9:56am Nov 7, 2023 9:56am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Good question. I don't know if that's allowed, I have not contacted them, but this is a functionality of Rithmic itself so may I be penalized for using one of the screens available in Rithmic ? Doesn't make sense if they penalise me.
You wont be penalized, just know that the built in one is problematic from what others have said.

As far as copiers and order splitting, Tradovate group copy split the orders in the multiples of accounts grouped. So if I want 1 contract placed in the group, I have to place a 10 contract order, then its split evenly amongst the group. Some of the other copiers have that same function.
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  • #25,667
  • Nov 7, 2023 11:15am Nov 7, 2023 11:15am
Interesting email from E8 I just got...

Dear E8 Community,

We've always championed the principle of leading by example.

In line with this ethos, we're taking a moment to offer you a detailed view of our operations.

As we've alluded to previously, we're unveiling certain key operational processes that have been kept under wraps. Our unwavering priority is to foster a bond built on trust and transparency with our valued community.

In the upcoming weeks, we'll be providing you with a transparent glimpse into our workings. The bedrock of our relationship with you is trust, and our commitment is to ensure you're well-informed.

Soon you’ll be able to access the following:

  1. Daily pass rate statistics from our traders

  1. The top traders that have ever worked with E8 Funding

  1. Examples of trading styles that are least successful on our platform

  1. Realistic statistics from users showcasing the platform possibility

    1. (Like : Spend to Payout ratio)

  2. Daily payout details which soon will be available on the platform

  • #25,668
  • Nov 7, 2023 11:37am Nov 7, 2023 11:37am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Several years ago I had access to Rithmic/Ninja. I can't remember why or what I had it for. It may have been for TopStep but who knows? All I know is it gave me a massive migraine. Anyway, I just purchased one 100K FULL account with Tradovate. Just trying to get signed in and get the disclosures signed gave me a migraine. Needless to say, I will be spending a lot of time watching and reading tutorials this week to get up to speed in the futures game. But for now, it's bedtime for Bonzo.
when I signed up in APEX I got a shock in less of 1 minute, after 2 minutes I wanted a refund, after 5 minutes found the way to write support and so on...

after 24H I get used and happy ha ha, plus many other mistakes in this messy website, now I'm fine with it.

To anyone willing to join APEX, be patient and keep calm, then you will get used. It's a good offer.
in holiday till end of November
  • #25,669
  • Nov 7, 2023 11:43am Nov 7, 2023 11:43am
Quoting TrAndy1
Also the trailing DD on Future props let you to do overtrading by looking more on intraday scalps. But after the facts of being a consistent profitable trader we all know that intraday trading Indices/Futures is more difficult than to do swing trading on Forex. But of course overall Forex trading is harder than Indices trading. So it is certainly very on its own of everyone to say what is more difficult or easier to pass. There is no general rule to say Future props are easier to get payouts from than FX'.
I don't agree with you. Swing trading can cause a cumulative emotions when holding trades overnight. You can get into greed and fear faster. Also you build scenarios about key levels and you are affected by past. Traders used to say don't get married with your position. This often happen. Also you open yourself for risk of high impact news, example Palestine conflict on weekend few weeks ago. When day trading i often don't know and don't care afternoon time what happened during EU session. I might be long during EU and then switch to shorts during US session and it's ok.
  • #25,670
  • Nov 7, 2023 11:48am Nov 7, 2023 11:48am
Update Horrible day back to back and my mistake of continuing to take high risks trades with high lots as a revenge.

1. Skilled - Waiting for the end of the week for the funded account
2. MFF (Funded account) - 186,045$
3. Blue Guardian (Phase 2) - 186,224$

Just 1% away from max DD

Reduced the risk to .1% to recover slowly(not gonna do any stupid thing). Lets see how it goes.

Not gonna give up on these accounts.
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  • #25,671
  • Nov 7, 2023 12:02pm Nov 7, 2023 12:02pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Day 2 of 7 with second batch of 50K accounts. $531 booked. Today is day 7 of first group of 10. {image}
not so easy market today, even today just 1 trade, I'm setting up better the combinations of my groups, because, I added a static to keep me calm and trade less when I touch my levels where I usually trade and then accelerate when I see right conditions.

Still studying how to do it, but I'm a bit delused to have adopted the static account, elite trader has a nice one with 1300$ static drawdown while APEX is offering just half size, hope APEX will add a 1300$ static drawdown can be a nice offer.
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  • #25,672
  • Nov 7, 2023 12:04pm Nov 7, 2023 12:04pm
Hi montygoldy, I thought My Forex Funds was shutdown. The graph image must be with Blue Guardian right? Just curious, How long have you been trading? I started learning Forex 2021, I'm currently trying to pass a prop firm challenge. I had passed My Forex Funds phase one, but right after they shutdown. So now I'm back on the journey to passing another phase one challenge.
  • #25,673
  • Nov 7, 2023 12:41pm Nov 7, 2023 12:41pm
Quoting forexbali
{quote} not so easy market today, even today just 1 trade, I'm setting up better the combinations of my groups, because, I added a static to keep me calm and trade less when I touch my levels where I usually trade and then accelerate when I see right conditions. Still studying how to do it, but I'm a bit delused to have adopted the static account, elite trader has a nice one with 1300$ static drawdown while APEX is offering just half size, hope APEX will add a 1300$ static drawdown can be a nice offer. {image}
The problem I see is, and everyone needs to answer this question for him/herself, that is it worth to spend several months paying the eval fee which is double the fee after first month, or just try to pass it within 1 month and gamble the eval more to get it passed. And then if not the case cancel the account and then retry it with another 90% discount some time later ? Because at the end you could save a lot of eval fees if you get the eval passed within 1 month. What do others think about this?
  • #25,674
  • Nov 7, 2023 1:32pm Nov 7, 2023 1:32pm
The MFF hearing already started or ? Any news or updates so far that anybody can already leak here ?
  • #25,675
  • Nov 7, 2023 1:55pm Nov 7, 2023 1:55pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} You wont be penalized, just know that the built in one is problematic from what others have said. As far as copiers and order splitting, Tradovate group copy split the orders in the multiples of accounts grouped. So if I want 1 contract placed in the group, I have to place a 10 contract order, then its split evenly amongst the group. Some of the other copiers have that same function.
Thank you

I only made 2 or 3 tests opening limit and market orders and worked well. I have to test that with more accounts when I buy them

With 2 account I have to enter 2 contracts, then press buy and he buys 1 in one acctount and 1 in another.

If this works like this it should be enough for me. I'll test further.

I saw that page but I only want to work with Rithmic because I'll mimic my "real" trades in my account in Multicharts. Don't want to add Ninja or tradovate. Too much things already opened.
  • #25,676
  • Nov 7, 2023 2:13pm Nov 7, 2023 2:13pm
Quoting krscott
Hi montygoldy, I thought My Forex Funds was shutdown. The graph image must be with Blue Guardian right? Just curious, How long have you been trading? I started learning Forex 2021, I'm currently trying to pass a prop firm challenge. I had passed My Forex Funds phase one, but right after they shutdown. So now I'm back on the journey to passing another phase one challenge.
MFF- Myflashfunding -- took 6 trading days to get funded on (MFF and SkilledFunded) and phase 2 on blue guardian.... This is my 2nd batch of challenges EVER. Last month tried 5 x100k with 5 different firms failed 4 got funding on 1 (Bespoke which is close to payout). Still learning to adapt to prop firms world. But Slowly getting hang of it.
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  • #25,677
  • Nov 7, 2023 2:16pm Nov 7, 2023 2:16pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} MFF- Myflashfunding -- took 6 trading days to get funded on (MFF and SkilledFunded) and phase 2 on blue guardian.... This is my 2nd batch of challenges EVER. Last month tried 5 x100k with 5 different firms failed 4 got funding on 1 (Bespoke which is close to payout). Still learning to adapt to prop firms world. But Slowly getting hang of it.
If you can make it to a payout and you are net positive in excess of all fees spending then you have it. What I thought is with all these recent published posts that it is by far too fast to hold this kind of progress. But that is me. I do not know what others think about this. But for me I need like 2 months to pass that kind of goals in average. That is why I like the no time limit so much. And this new rule only got implemented this year 2023 since. I hope you will get a payout smooth from Bespoke.
  • #25,678
  • Nov 7, 2023 2:42pm Nov 7, 2023 2:42pm
Sounds like many of you are trading via Apex lately. Does anyone know if the discounted monthly fee is for evaluation mode only or does it carry over to production months once you pass the evaluation?
  • #25,679
  • Nov 7, 2023 2:46pm Nov 7, 2023 2:46pm
Quoting Rjaws
Sounds like many of you are trading via Apex lately. Does anyone know if the discounted monthly fee is for evaluation mode only or does it carry over to production months once you pass the evaluation?
No this is only for first month of evaluation. Then it is 80% discounted. At PA level there are no discounts never.
  • #25,680
  • Nov 7, 2023 3:13pm Nov 7, 2023 3:13pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} No this is only for first month of evaluation. Then it is 80% discounted. At PA level there are no discounts never.
are you sure? I didn't know, I was thinking that the 80% discount is after also for the PA account. So this change a lot things, I have to check, I lost this rule of the promo. I will open a ticket to ask.

So the 300K PA account will cost 670$ per month plus the 85-105$ fee? 750$ per month?
in holiday till end of November
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