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  • #25,341
  • Nov 2, 2023 11:08am Nov 2, 2023 11:08am
Quoting josh1111
Hey guys I was wondering if you would give me some input on OspreyFX's new Funded accounts? https://ospreyfx.com/funded-live-account-challenge/ They changed their terms quite a bit. Seems harder than most to pass but they give you a fee refund plus a $1000 bonus. Phase 1 10% Phase 2 8% minimum 10 minimum days each! Claims live accounts use real funds. Weird 30% consistency rule. 80% profit split Key standouts to me are an actual Live account and the bonus. Thanks
Those offshore brokers now offering funded accounts are complete garbage offerings.
  • #25,342
  • Nov 2, 2023 11:12am Nov 2, 2023 11:12am
Quoting forexbali
I'm in the third day in APEX +2400$ profit on profit goal of 1500$ on the 25K tradovate Now I've to think which accounts to add so instead to risk with 20 accounts something that however will be costly, I'm thinking to add just 2 accounts 1. 25K tradovate I will use it as master to copy trades on the slaves 2. A new 50K and 300K I will use as slave, otherwise, to buy like 5 50K and to use as slave just 1, and to trade aggressively, and to keep the other just active and ready if I lose the master and slave. I will trade with tradovate web or mac...
Not sure why anyone would go above the 50K....the 300K cost 4 times more for only 3 x the DD and it's a 2.66 flip vs. a 1.2 flip on the 50K to pass.
Will 20 * 50K , which will provide 50K in DD not be enough?
  • #25,343
  • Nov 2, 2023 11:20am Nov 2, 2023 11:20am
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} No, that's just completely wrong. E2T didn't even exist at the time of that alleged wrongdoing, and in any case Masten was no longer associated with E2T in any capacity (not an owner, not an employee) by the time it was all resolved. It never had anything to do with E2T anyway. This has all been dealt with very repeatedly and very publicly, and what you're saying there is just completely wrong. And as Quickly mentioned above, E2T isn't even the funding company anyway! But apart from all that, well done (as ever!). {quote} Lololololololol,...
Andy is the champ in rubbish videos and misinformation..
  • #25,344
  • Nov 2, 2023 11:23am Nov 2, 2023 11:23am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Not sure why anyone would go above the 50K....the 300K cost 4 times more for only 3 x the DD and it's a 2.66 flip vs. a 1.2 flip on the 50K to pass. Will 20 * 50K , which will provide 50K in DD not be enough?
Plus there's a limit cap on each account for the first 3 months. 4K per month for each 50K account, 7K for each 300K account.

Its kind of a no brainer...
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #25,345
  • Edited 12:17pm Nov 2, 2023 11:24am | Edited 12:17pm
Quoting pipmaster77
Another point with the futures props (may have already been mentioned)......there is no x amount per strat, so if someone else happens to be using the same strat, you are not rejected. I also see nothing regarding IP buullshit, average costing in or out, etc.....basically all of the bullshit the fx props pull is not existent.I've only checked apex, so not sure about the others as I don't believe I will need them.
You are 100.1% correct on that one

Coming from a futures background, I have never seen so much sh.t as in the Forex department
  • #25,346
  • Nov 2, 2023 11:45am Nov 2, 2023 11:45am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Not sure why anyone would go above the 50K....the 300K cost 4 times more for only 3 x the DD and it's a 2.66 flip vs. a 1.2 flip on the 50K to pass. Will 20 * 50K , which will provide 50K in DD not be enough?
because of what I learnt here, exactly that, the best would be the 50K over the 25K just because that micros more offer better management.
So the best ratio is the 50K correct. But also the 30K with a "bad ratio" could be good just for the number off ES.

In case you want to scalp 1 tick, with micros you are at breakeven, while with ES you make like 75% profit of the tick.
in holiday till end of November
  • #25,347
  • Nov 2, 2023 12:40pm Nov 2, 2023 12:40pm
After a few times trying to choose propfirm, I have found the two ideal propfirm
I think ftmo is a good choice for forex.
And then for cryptos there is cryptofundtrader.
I am very happy with these two, and more with the second one, I just passed the challenge and it has been one of the best experiences.
Try them, I recommend it
  • #25,348
  • Nov 2, 2023 12:57pm Nov 2, 2023 12:57pm
Quoting Ambrwn
After a few times trying to choose propfirm, I have found the two ideal propfirm I think ftmo is a good choice for forex. And then for cryptos there is cryptofundtrader. I am very happy with these two, and more with the second one, I just passed the challenge and it has been one of the best experiences. Try them, I recommend it
how clever, I for one cannot see right through this, hopefully none of the other intelligent folks will either....you sure fooled us, I am going to sign up with cryptofundtrader right now.....whatever their biggest price is.
You people just kill me, 2nd post, atleast come hang for a few before you try to screw us.
  • #25,349
  • Nov 2, 2023 1:03pm Nov 2, 2023 1:03pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} if you're doing indices, alot of us are gravitating to the futures props....several of us are on apex. just read your post a little further, wtf would you trade news with 100:1?????????
I wouldn't use full leverage during news but I sure use it in slower times.
I need to stick to the MT4 platform as I have way too much time invested developing my software and learning the programming language.
The Futures Props all seem to use Ninjatrader, Rythmic or whatever random platform.
  • #25,350
  • Nov 2, 2023 1:28pm Nov 2, 2023 1:28pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} Andy is the champ in rubbish videos and misinformation..

The rubbish videos we can ignore, but his constant misinformation is painful.

Can he not somehow be blocked from polluting such a useful thread with all this garbage?
  • #25,351
  • Nov 2, 2023 1:32pm Nov 2, 2023 1:32pm
Quoting Ambrwn
After a few times trying to choose propfirm, I have found the two ideal propfirm I think ftmo is a good choice for forex. And then for cryptos there is cryptofundtrader. I am very happy with these two, and more with the second one, I just passed the challenge and it has been one of the best experiences. Try them, I recommend it
On Oct 17th you came here looking for advice on props. Two weeks after you are already recommending two props.

One is unsuspected, anybody could recommend it (FTMO), but the other other is crypto fund trader.

Just a week after another member with two posts also recommended crypto fund trader.
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...9#post14633999

You guys from crypto fund trader should attend some sort of marketing digital course. What you just did was to burn crypto fund trader in this space with that shady approach. So much inability....

Masterrmind, keep an eye in these two artists.
  • #25,352
  • Edited 1:55pm Nov 2, 2023 1:40pm | Edited 1:55pm
May be not usefull, but I like the realtime and end of day report of your day of Tradovate-Apex

I also contacted today people at thetradingpit, that it seem serious prop, and they said me that in 2024 they will add tradovate. Nice.
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in holiday till end of November
  • #25,353
  • Nov 2, 2023 1:47pm Nov 2, 2023 1:47pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Not sure why anyone would go above the 50K....the 300K cost 4 times more for only 3 x the DD and it's a 2.66 flip vs. a 1.2 flip on the 50K to pass. Will 20 * 50K , which will provide 50K in DD not be enough?
You forgot the mandatory $85 fee when funded which is the same regardless of account size ! Then 300k offer is better. You make 3 times more profit than 50k.
Do not want to repeat myself within a few days again. Read my earlier posts. I made a good comparison of 50k and 300k at Apex. Not so easy to understand, 300k is it.
  • #25,354
  • Nov 2, 2023 2:02pm Nov 2, 2023 2:02pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Not sure why anyone would go above the 50K....the 300K cost 4 times more for only 3 x the DD and it's a 2.66 flip vs. a 1.2 flip on the 50K to pass. Will 20 * 50K , which will provide 50K in DD not be enough?
You are right with more flipping BUT you get 3 times more profits. And you pay $85 for the $2500 DD vs. for 300k you also $85 but for $7500 DD. That is the major difference. Also both have no time limit as you can pay monthly fees to continue trading. So bigger flipping you can decide to take it longer or rush and gamble through.
  • #25,355
  • Nov 2, 2023 2:12pm Nov 2, 2023 2:12pm
If you pass in first month you pay for the $50k at Apex $105 but for the 300k you pay $145, so the difference is 40% more but you get 3 times more DD. So this is a trade off for the bigger flipping you need to do. Even you need 2 months for completing, then you have $140 versus ca. $280 only for the 300k. So again an advantage.
  • #25,356
  • Nov 2, 2023 2:14pm Nov 2, 2023 2:14pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} On Oct 17th you came here looking for advice on props. Two weeks after you are already recommending two props. One is unsuspected, anybody could recommend it (FTMO), but the other other is crypto fund trader. Just a week after another member with two posts also recommended crypto fund trader. https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...9#post14633999 You guys from crypto fund trader should attend some sort of marketing digital course. What you just did was to burn crypto fund trader in this space with that shady approach....
lol, I just posted a sarcastic post 3 above you
  • #25,357
  • Nov 2, 2023 2:15pm Nov 2, 2023 2:15pm
You guys have chosen Rithmic or Tradovate? I am completely newbie on futures but will buy a 50k plan to train on it.
Don't give up on your dreams. Keep sleeping.
  • #25,358
  • Nov 2, 2023 2:19pm Nov 2, 2023 2:19pm
So if you pass within 1 month the 300k is clearly better. Then it is similar if you need to pass it within 2 months. But I would say this is indifferent from the numbers. So go for the higher absolute money you can make with the 300k even the difficulty versus value is the same like 50k if you pass in 2 months. Go for the $300k acc. really.
  • #25,359
  • Nov 2, 2023 2:21pm Nov 2, 2023 2:21pm
Quoting Artcool
You guys have chosen Rithmic or Tradovate? I am completely newbie on futures but will buy a 50k plan to train on it.
If you do not want a headache then go for Rithmic. By far much more professional and reliable than Tradovate. This is a nobrainer, if you can choose among them.
  • #25,360
  • Nov 2, 2023 2:26pm Nov 2, 2023 2:26pm
Apex 50k: Looks like I need to get Tradovate as it has dax but I need to pay $23 per month to get the eurex subscription. NY session is too late for me where I live. Beginning next week, NY opens at 10:30pm. I don’t have the energy by then.
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