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  • #25,181
  • Oct 31, 2023 4:47pm Oct 31, 2023 4:47pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
Day 2 w/Apex. Banked $639 for each account ($6390 total). My approach for any challenge is to divide the Profit goal by the days needed. If its 7 days then $3000 profit goal divided by 7. So i need to make at least $430 per day. {image}
only $600 for the smartest trader alive ????
  • #25,182
  • Oct 31, 2023 5:17pm Oct 31, 2023 5:17pm
Quoting Markula
{quote} Actually your the idiot. the "money" is made anywhere and there are tons of agricultural related futures that I can predict unlike you: 1) Soybean meal 2) Soybean oil 3) Live cattle 4) Rough rice 5) Lean hogs 5) Corn 6) coffee arabica 7) coffee robusta I can predict all of these easily unlike you. The reason you can only predict indices and gold means you're an inferior trader. Which is why you're not making millions . Gold silver and indices are very similar to just trading the USD so you essentially can only predict movements in the dollar,...
In the context of the current discussion, ag futures wasn’t a part of it. Maybe if you were paying attention and not a drive by commenting idiot you would know.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #25,183
  • Oct 31, 2023 5:20pm Oct 31, 2023 5:20pm
Quoting Markula
{quote} only $600 for the smartest trader alive ????
Never said I was, again you’re missing the context of what’s being discussed and the long game that’s taking place.

Apex is in addition to my FTMO account and personal AMP futures account.

The only account that matters to me is AMP. The rest is for entertainment value and personal achievement.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #25,184
  • Oct 31, 2023 5:58pm Oct 31, 2023 5:58pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} It's to stop yoloers from making it to payout in 1-2 lucky trades. If you make 50% in 1 trade day you will need more positive trade days to lower that 1 trade day's % of total profits <30%. In my case, I risk .50% live so this will never come into play.
I did today 932$ on my profit goal of 1500$ in scalping. Total contracts bought 500 sold 500.

So to make big profit with lot of scalping would be better consistency than 1 trade with a big profit?
in holiday till end of November
  • #25,185
  • Oct 31, 2023 5:58pm Oct 31, 2023 5:58pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} In the context of the current discussion, ag futures wasn’t a part of it. Maybe if you were paying attention and not a drive by commenting idiot you would know.
they are implied to be a part of this thread because thetradingpit was brought up which has two brokers fxflat and gbe, one of which primarily offers ag commodities. I don't care what u think the "context" is . The context is actually the 1260 pages of discussion so far in this thread.
  • #25,186
  • Oct 31, 2023 6:04pm Oct 31, 2023 6:04pm
Quoting Markula
{quote} they are implied to be a part of this thread because thetradingpit was brought up which has two brokers fxflat and gbe, one of which primarily offers ag commodities. I don't care what u think the "context" is . The context is actually the 1260 pages of discussion so far in this thread.
You must be fun at parties, everyone is talking about the game last Sunday and you stroll in demanding to be heard about the ethics of Gefilte fish breeding.

ADD is your only accomplishment in life it seems.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #25,187
  • Oct 31, 2023 6:06pm Oct 31, 2023 6:06pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} You must be fun at parties, everyone is talking about the game last Sunday and you stroll in demanding to be heard about the ethics of Gefilte fish breeding.
you're an incorrigible person incapable of reading comprehension. we were talking about the tradingpit before you strolled in talking nonsense. the fact is you run your mouth off with 1635 posts of nonsense to my 20 or so comments, is a testament to who likes to blab and who likes to be quiet.
  • #25,188
  • Oct 31, 2023 6:12pm Oct 31, 2023 6:12pm
Quoting Markula
{quote} you're an incorrigible person incapable of reading comprehension. we were talking about the tradingpit before you strolled in talking nonsense. the fact is you run your mouth off with 1635 posts of nonsense to my 20 or so comments, is a testament to who likes to blab and who likes to be quiet.
You strolled in and mouthed off about websites.
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...6#post14636676

You can’t even tell if you’re coming or going.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #25,189
  • Oct 31, 2023 6:22pm Oct 31, 2023 6:22pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} You strolled in and mouthed off about websites. https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...6#post14636676 You can’t even tell if you’re coming or going.
again *reading comprehension*. The word context means that which comes before and after. If I were to want to understand what Genesis 8 means, that means understanding Genesis 1-7 and for our thread, the last 20 pages. So again you're too dense to get that. I haven't strolled in, I've been in the room.
  • #25,190
  • Oct 31, 2023 6:32pm Oct 31, 2023 6:32pm
Quoting Markula
{quote} again *reading comprehension*. The word context means that which comes before and after. If I were to want to understand what Genesis 8 means, that means understanding Genesis 1-7 and for our thread, the last 20 pages. So again you're too dense to get that. I haven't strolled in, I've been in the room.
Like I said, you can’t even tell if you’re coming or going.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #25,191
  • Oct 31, 2023 6:44pm Oct 31, 2023 6:44pm
Quoting montygoldy
just now realised skilledfundedtrader they dont have a physical address on their website. Thats the biggest red flag for me. But What the h@ll already bought the challenge.
Skilled Funded Traders, LLC
8 The Green, Ste. R
Dover, DE 19901

This address is listed on their "Term of Use" page... good luck!
  • #25,192
  • Oct 31, 2023 6:48pm Oct 31, 2023 6:48pm
Quoting BlackLotus
{quote} Skilled Funded Traders, LLC 8 The Green, Ste. R Dover, DE 19901 This address is listed on their "Term of Use" page... good luck!
thanks man
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #25,193
  • Oct 31, 2023 6:56pm Oct 31, 2023 6:56pm
Quoting BlackLotus
{quote} Skilled Funded Traders, LLC 8 The Green, Ste. R Dover, DE 19901 This address is listed on their "Term of Use" page... good luck!
Uups it’s just virtual office suite in Delaware…
Don't give up on your dreams. Keep sleeping.
  • #25,194
  • Oct 31, 2023 7:29pm Oct 31, 2023 7:29pm
Quoting Artcool
{quote} Uups it’s just virtual office suite in Delaware…
They are all virtual offices with the exception of FTMO and the 5%ers.
  • #25,195
  • Oct 31, 2023 7:35pm Oct 31, 2023 7:35pm
Ok, here is the rule about the drawdown of APEX

if I understood well, it is "trailing" but at some point it is locked to the initial balance. That's good. So it is not trailing forever.

This mean that if you make on a 50K account a profit of 22500, you can withdraw 20000 and continue to trade as before.

Is it correct?
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  • #25,196
  • Edited 8:21pm Oct 31, 2023 8:02pm | Edited 8:21pm
Other question:

the offers of APEX is 90% off for the first month, and 80% off for recurring months.

so for a 50K account (tradovate 187/month and rithmic 167/month) this would mean

that you start the evaluation with just 19$ and 17$ first month and 38 and 34 second month.

But what happen if you pass the eval before the end of the first month?

There is a PA perfomance account fee that is 85$ per month for rithmic and 105$ for Tradovate, or you can pay a lifetime one time fee of 180 and 160$.

So, let's say we decide to save this monthly fee, and we go for the lifetime, we pay this lifetime fee and we do not have anymore a monthly fee for the funded account. But, do still apply the monthly fee of 38$ and 34$? Will be this the unique cost per month to continue to trade the funded account?

I guess there is no sense to pay 105/85$ per month for the PA fee if the lifetime fee cost less of 2 months PA fee.

Please if somebody can clarify if all this is correct, thank you.

Also I would like somebody to compare Tradovate option with Rithmic:
I spent time till now to set up Tradevate web, and now I have a nice set up, plus I can use TradingView and the Tradovate/Ninjatrader android app that is also nice, plus I could use the group feature of tradevate to trade in group accounts, but I don't need this now.

With Rithmic? Some of you prefer it. In case of rithmic connection, ok you can't use tradingview and tradovate-ninja app, but do you have a web interface and another mobile app? if you can send me the links to check it. Thanks again.
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  • #25,197
  • Oct 31, 2023 8:03pm Oct 31, 2023 8:03pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I didn't get your calculation when saying 43% is low. By high risk trades do you mean a coin flip to pass in one day and then complete remaining min days with small trades ?
I don't think APEX publishes pass rates. They publish percentage of people getting PA (live account). For example If 2 traders buy 20 accounts each and out of them if one trader passes 1 and gets PA account and another trader fails all 20 account. They calculate 50% Actually it is 0.012%. I bet if they calculate real percentage it will be 0.001% because barrier of buying evaluation is pretty low.
  • #25,198
  • Edited 10:01pm Oct 31, 2023 9:40pm | Edited 10:01pm
Quoting forexbali
Ok, here is the rule about the drawdown of APEX if I understood well, it is "trailing" but at some point it is locked to the initial balance. That's good. So it is not trailing forever. This mean that if you make on a 50K account a profit of 22500, you can withdraw 20000 and continue to trade as before. Is it correct? {image}
It trails the account's highest intraday peak and stops once it reaches initial bal (+$2500), from there it's similar to trading a personal futures account (up to 20 accounts)...

Start 50,000 = 47,500 DD limit... +1,000 @ 51,000 = 48,500... -500 @ 50,500 = 48,500... +2,000 @ 52,500 = 50,000... +2,500 @ 55,000 = 50,000... +15,000 @ 70,000 = 50,000
  • #25,199
  • Oct 31, 2023 9:47pm Oct 31, 2023 9:47pm
Quoting forexbali
Other question: the offers of APEX is 90% off for the first month, and 80% off for recurring months. so for a 50K account (tradovate 187/month and rithmic 167/month) this would mean that you start the evaluation with just 19$ and 17$ first month and 38 and 34 second month. But what happen if you pass the eval before the end of the first month? There is a PA perfomance account fee that is 85$ per month for rithmic and 105$ for Tradovate, or you can pay a lifetime one time fee of 180 and 160$. So, let's say we decide to save this monthly fee, and...
Rithmic.... $17 initial (90% off), $34 monthly auto renew (80% off), $85 monthly or $140 1x activation fee
Tradovate... $19 initial (90% off), $38 monthly auto renew (80% off), $105 monthly or $160 1x activation fee
  • #25,200
  • Oct 31, 2023 11:40pm Oct 31, 2023 11:40pm
Quoting Vitore
A new player (with old people behind it - from Purple Trading) https://www.fintokei.com/ {image}
Cannot find any reviews or even a discord for these guys. Seems a little sus. Website is nice though and good metrics.
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