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  • #25,161
  • Oct 31, 2023 3:17pm Oct 31, 2023 3:17pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} This 30% rule should be on the evaluation not for the funded account like earn2trade does,you don't want to limit profits when it is for real,no ? Cut your losses short and let your profits run, like they say. an extra indication it is probably only demo with Apex {image} Better deal is what earn2trade offers and there you really get a live account connected to the exchange, earn2trade scales you up all the way https://www.earn2trade.com/trader-career-path {image} {image} {image} {image} With topstep it is 50% also during evaluation...
let's be real..... The rule is not there in the evals so gamblers that buy a 10-20 accounts on sales eventually pass, pay the higher activation fees (monthly or 1x), then get hit with reality that they can't trade when the 30% rule forces them to have a series of smaller wins to get paid.
  • #25,162
  • Oct 31, 2023 3:19pm Oct 31, 2023 3:19pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} I made a smaller calculation and figured out, that is the same for 80% discount (never ending) with the $85 per month fee on $50k accounts like you would take the $300k account with $80 reset fee anytime and $85 fee on funded stage too. It is not exact the same but near. 20 accounts at $50k for each $34 (at 80% discount as follow up when you failed first time) + 20*$85 fee = $2.3k TO 20*$67 (later $80 reset fee for those 300k) +20*$85 = $3.1k to $3.3k but you make three times more with the given DD (2.5k vs 7.5k) on funded. Capped at $3.5k...
There is NO 30 day time limit with Apex

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  • #25,163
  • Oct 31, 2023 3:22pm Oct 31, 2023 3:22pm
Quoting Takisd
Those video thumbnails giving me hemorrhoids looking at them. Thanks for the spam
So I come back to this thread for 1st time since yesterday and >30% of the new posts are from TrAndy1 SMH
  • #25,164
  • Oct 31, 2023 3:32pm Oct 31, 2023 3:32pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} So I come back to this thread for 1st time since yesterday and >30% of the new posts are from TrAndy1 SMH
And they are all garbage
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #25,165
  • Oct 31, 2023 3:32pm Oct 31, 2023 3:32pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} So I come back to this thread for 1st time since yesterday and >30% of the new posts are from TrAndy1 SMH
Beginning to look like a spammer with all his misinformation..
Please, Andy ,can you slow down with your posts ?
  • #25,166
  • Oct 31, 2023 3:37pm Oct 31, 2023 3:37pm
Was interested in these futures prop but I think I am not interested to spend days to read and understand all the rules. Getting too complicated
Don't give up on your dreams. Keep sleeping.
  • #25,167
  • Oct 31, 2023 3:48pm Oct 31, 2023 3:48pm
What I do not know is, if the 90% discount code is the monthly fee until infinity (when you do not violate the account) or only for the first month and then you pay 80% discount or full fee if you need more time to get eval passed ?
  • #25,168
  • Oct 31, 2023 3:56pm Oct 31, 2023 3:56pm
Quoting TrAndy1
What I do not know is, if the 90% discount code is the monthly fee until infinity (when you do not violate the account) or only for the first month ? Who knows that...
I think it is only for the challenge? because if you pass the challenge, than the fee has another name, is the monthly fee, and that won't be at discount of course.
in holiday till end of November
  • #25,169
  • Oct 31, 2023 3:58pm Oct 31, 2023 3:58pm
Quoting forexbali
{quote} I think it is only for the challenge? because if you pass the challenge, than the fee has another name, is the monthly fee, and that won't be at discount of course.
yes I am speaking of the challenge. If you do not pass within 1 month there is again a fee. But is that fee also 90% discount or less or full fee then if you need more time ?
  • #25,170
  • Oct 31, 2023 4:01pm Oct 31, 2023 4:01pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} let's be real..... The rule is not there in the evals so gamblers that buy a 10-20 accounts on sales eventually pass, pay the higher activation fees (monthly or 1x), then get hit with reality that they can't trade when the 30% rule forces them to have a series of smaller wins to get paid.
wait, but it's very hard to make 30% of the profit goal every day,

if you divide for 20 sessions, 100/20, to make a 5% per day of the profit goal should be ok. Not? than if it is 10-20% range, faster.

Perhaps now I don't understand why there is this rule when funded. So to get paid, payout, we have to reach every time the profit goal even when funded?
in holiday till end of November
  • #25,171
  • Oct 31, 2023 4:04pm Oct 31, 2023 4:04pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} yes I am speaking of the challenge. If you do not pass within 1 month there is again a fee. But is that fee also 90% discount or less or full fee then if you need more time ?
i remember the advertising was stating about the second month, but somebody above wrote that you don't have 1 month time...

I think this apex is a mess with the confusion of their website, things written here and there, too many, while other prop are so simple in rules that it's hard to find more info, here is a mix of things, I will go now to try to read again in the site everything because I'm confused.

Here all jumped in with 90% discount, but lots of doubts about rules, and you are quite expert about prop, me less, and on futures is the first time.
in holiday till end of November
  • #25,172
  • Oct 31, 2023 4:16pm Oct 31, 2023 4:16pm
Quoting TrAndy1
What I do not know is, if the 90% discount code is the monthly fee until infinity (when you do not violate the account) or only for the first month and then you pay 80% discount or full fee if you need more time to get eval passed ?
Every month 80% off you let account violated during next billing cycle account resets to original (note : if account is not breached it will not reset it will remain in drawdown)
  • #25,173
  • Oct 31, 2023 4:19pm Oct 31, 2023 4:19pm
Quoting Masterrmind
TOP 5 PROP FIRMS CURRENTLY PAYING TRADERS FTMO My Forex Funds (As of late August 2023 this firm is under heavy investigation by several regulators regarding a multitude of deceptive and illegal practices) E8 TFF The Funded Trader
Who is TFF?
  • #25,174
  • Oct 31, 2023 4:19pm Oct 31, 2023 4:19pm
Quoting pewebly
{quote} Who is TFF?
True forex funds
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #25,175
  • Edited 4:32pm Oct 31, 2023 4:19pm | Edited 4:32pm
Quoting forexbali
{quote} wait, but it's very hard to make 30% of the profit goal every day, if you divide for 20 sessions, 100/20, to make a 5% per day of the profit goal should be ok. Not? than if it is 10-20% range, faster. Perhaps now I don't understand why there is this rule when funded. So to get paid, payout, we have to reach every time the profit goal even when funded?
It's to stop yoloers from making it to payout in 1-2 lucky trades. If you make 50% in 1 trade day you will need more positive trade days to lower that 1 trade day's % of total profits <30%. In my case, I risk .50% live so this will never come into play.
  • #25,176
  • Oct 31, 2023 4:21pm Oct 31, 2023 4:21pm
just now realised skilledfundedtrader they dont have a physical address on their website. Thats the biggest red flag for me. But What the h@ll already bought the challenge.
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #25,177
  • Oct 31, 2023 4:25pm Oct 31, 2023 4:25pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} It's to stop yoloers from making it to payout in 1-2 lucky trades. If you make 50% in 1 trade day you will need more positive trade days to lower that 1 trade days % of total profits <30%. In my case, I risk .50% live so this will never come into play.
30% rule is only for withdrawal. Lets say if I make 2500$ one day I can trade 50$ profit there after daily till total profit reaches 8334 than I can make withdrawal. So YOLO is ok to get pass trailing threshold and than one can trade micros instead of minis.
  • #25,178
  • Oct 31, 2023 4:26pm Oct 31, 2023 4:26pm
Quoting forexbali
{quote} i remember the advertising was stating about the second month, but somebody above wrote that you don't have 1 month time... I think this apex is a mess with the confusion of their website, things written here and there, too many, while other prop are so simple in rules that it's hard to find more info, here is a mix of things, I will go now to try to read again in the site everything because I'm confused. Here all jumped in with 90% discount, but lots of doubts about rules, and you are quite expert about prop, me less, and on futures is...
JFC you and Tranny have to be the thickest there ever was here. You two claim to be baller future traders in the past but fail to understand or grasp simple concepts.

The mess is watching you two playing your Abbott and Costello routine.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #25,179
  • Oct 31, 2023 4:39pm Oct 31, 2023 4:39pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} JFC you and Tranny have to be the thickest there ever was here. You two claim to be baller future traders in the past but fail to understand or grasp simple concepts. The mess is watching you two playing your Abbott and Costello routine.
haaaaa
  • #25,180
  • Edited 4:58pm Oct 31, 2023 4:46pm | Edited 4:58pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Nobody was talking AG futures numbnuts. The money is made in Indicies, CL, Gold.
Actually your the idiot. the "money" is made anywhere and there are tons of agricultural related futures that I can predict unlike you:
1) Soybean meal
2) Soybean oil
3) Live cattle
4) Rough rice
5) Lean hogs
5) Corn
6) coffee arabica
7) coffee robusta
I can predict all of these easily unlike you. The reason you can only predict indices and gold means you're an inferior trader. Which is why you're not making millions . Gold silver and indices are very similar to just trading the USD so you essentially can only predict movements in the dollar, only 1 asset compared to me being able to predict any stock, commodity, crypto, etc. you're hilarious. I don't confine myself to trading 3 things. You seem to not comprehend that I will not stop responding to your replies because it doesn't matter if you worked for Soros or Jim Rogers or whoever, it has no bearing on your actual level of skill.
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