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  • #23,121
  • Sep 28, 2023 4:39pm Sep 28, 2023 4:39pm
Quoting Takisd
Staying away from props, all of them for now. Will go back to working on my lego starship enterprise.
Have you tried futures? Going to start a challenge with FTMO next week & if they don't honor their own rules I will stick with futures. I'm not @ all happy with the platform I use, but not experiencing the BS being discussed here with forex. I was spoiled with the trade station that FXCM provided during their time in the USA.
  • #23,122
  • Sep 28, 2023 4:41pm Sep 28, 2023 4:41pm
Quoting acetrader
{quote} Have you tried futures? Going to start a challenge with FTMO next week & if they don't honor their own rules I will stick with futures. I'm not @ all happy with the platform I use, but not experiencing the BS being discussed here with forex. I was spoiled with the trade station that FXCM provided during their time in the USA.
I have traded futures professionally in my young days. Its not cleaner than this market in prop, the prop owners are equally as unsavory. I am good to go with my life. I things settle down i will continue but i think now things wont settle till Angelo is done.
  • #23,123
  • Sep 28, 2023 4:43pm Sep 28, 2023 4:43pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-I think, America is not really free. Corruption exists everywhere, but countries like the US have just gotten really good at hiding it. Privacy is an illusion. There are more people incarcerated here than any other place on the planet, including places like China, that have more than four times our population. I would bet that we have more laws than any other country. Taxes are not only high here, but money and property are taxed multiple times; sometimes repeatedly. People can make money here, but in terms of trading, setting up a business...
You my USA mate you are so correct. People living outside of the USA just don't realize the level of BS that is going on here now. Some in their own countries are experiencing the same if not worse situations. Some people here are so wrap up in football they are living blinded to the reality.
  • #23,124
  • Sep 28, 2023 4:47pm Sep 28, 2023 4:47pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} I have traded futures professionally in my young days. Its not cleaner than this market in prop, the prop owners are equally as unsavory. I am good to go with my life. I things settle down i will continue but i think now things wont settle till Angelo is done.
I understand & I guess I'm with a good broker as so far all seems well. Maybe it's not & I just haven't notice yet. I hope things will settle down as forex is my preference since the retail side began. Best of trades to you.
  • #23,125
  • Sep 28, 2023 4:49pm Sep 28, 2023 4:49pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} We are at the final stage. Possibly 24 hours later I just got the "crypto submission form" to fill out because requesting a payout and giving them the wallet address isn't enough. So you have to fill this form out, give them your email that they already have, the exact time of the original request (or in my case multiple requests), the withdrawal amount that was already provided, and the crypto wallet address that was already provided. It's like an insurance company. Even though they know they have to pay their main strategy is to keep the...
Nothing yet but another email today.

IMPORTANT NEXT STEPS
We wanted to deliver an update to all traders on the status of our payouts system. As of today we have begun the process of clearing traders who have been delayed with our payouts system. We have sent so far about $500k USD today. We are working through another batch and our goal is to send $2 million total by tomorrow end of day which would clear the delayed payouts.
Please read below on current important things to take note of.
To this point we have rejected 97% of the requests made via wise. If you have made a request via wise and your payout was not rejected yet, do not worry we are currently performing an audit to reject the request so that you can submit via crypto
If you have received a rejection notification via email of your previous payout we understand this is extremely frustrating, we ask you to submit a new payout request via your dashboard using crypto methods. This will ensure you are on the path of getting paid.
If you have requested a new payout request via the dashboard then we will be sending you a confirmation email so we can ensure the address you sent is accurate. Once this step is completed we will activate your account for trading and process your payout shortly after.

There is less than 60 people who have submitted a wise request, have been activated for trading and are owed a payout without confirming their address. Please check your email as we are asking you to submit a crypto address for your pending withdrawal.
We are currently prioritizing everyone through 9/26 that had payouts delayed. The reason we are focusing on this batch is because up until this date people were able to submit via wise, which resulted in the need to reject payouts. Once we have systematically paid all of the traders who submitted requests through this date. We will then work towards clearing all remaining withdrawal requests made video crypto after 9/25 and then returning to normal operations. We are making progress and will continue to keep you all updated.
Thank you,
Angelo Ciaramello
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #23,126
  • Sep 28, 2023 4:50pm Sep 28, 2023 4:50pm
Quoting acetrader
{quote} I understand & I guess I'm with a good broker as so far all seems well. Maybe it's not & I just haven't notice yet. I hope things will settle down as forex is my preference since the retail side began. Best of trades to you.
Thanks mate, I have broker accounts but they are certainly less fun than prop
  • #23,127
  • Sep 28, 2023 5:10pm Sep 28, 2023 5:10pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Thanks mate, I have broker accounts but they are certainly less fun than prop
Any update from MFF - CFTC case you might know ?
Intraday only.
  • #23,128
  • Sep 28, 2023 5:19pm Sep 28, 2023 5:19pm
Quoting CableJ
After FTX's collapse... investors/traders, media, congress criticized the SEC "why didn't you stop this from happening" & demanded that they do something. I wonder... Is an objective of the CFTC to create a crisis via months of FUD around MFF, which eventually leads to another top 5 prop firm collapsing, which then leads to loud demands for the FCA/ESMA/CFTC/ASIC to regulate the space?
Ahhhh....intelligence. 99% of folks do not see or just ignore all of the hidden agendas. If one actually sit down and connects the dots with some common sense, so many questions are answered....from covid to climate change to racism to 25 genders to border crisis.....you just have to think sometimes.
  • #23,129
  • Sep 28, 2023 5:28pm Sep 28, 2023 5:28pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Any update from MFF - CFTC case you might know ?
I think they are waiting for judge ruling on the SRO. Until there is that ruling i dont know anything. All quiet.
  • #23,130
  • Sep 28, 2023 5:52pm Sep 28, 2023 5:52pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Ahhhh....intelligence. 99% of folks do not see or just ignore all of the hidden agendas. If one actually sit down and connects the dots with some common sense, so many questions are answered....from covid to climate change to racism to 25 genders to border crisis.....you just have to think sometimes.
I'm getting the right tool to become more like you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat
  • #23,131
  • Sep 28, 2023 6:21pm Sep 28, 2023 6:21pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I'm getting the right tool to become more like you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat
Ah, I knew I'd engage someone. Yes. You are exclty the type I am referring to....blind, naive, or perhaps you just choose to ignore reality. You see, everything us "conspiracy theorists" have been speaking about for 3 years.....well, wake-up, my friend, it's all becoming reality.
Covid is bullshit and the "vaccines" don't work. Climate will always change. There are only 2 genders. Racism is fueled by the media. Border crisis? What border crisis?
Go ahead, rebuttal any of them.
I know, I know but the media said we should get our 15th booster and there are 30 genders and we are not being overwhelmed at the border and Joe Biden is great, kamala is even better.
  • #23,132
  • Sep 28, 2023 6:31pm Sep 28, 2023 6:31pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Ah, I knew I'd engage someone. Yes. You are exclty the type I am referring to....blind, naive, or perhaps you just choose to ignore reality. You see, everything us "conspiracy theorists" have been speaking about for 3 years.....well, wake-up, my friend, it's all becoming reality. Covid is bullshit and the "vaccines" don't work. Climate will always change. There are only 2 genders. Racism is fueled by the media. Border crisis? What border crisis? Go ahead, rebuttal any of them. I know, I know but the media said we should get our 15th booster...
If you luck out and your fave convicted felon (soon to be but should have been long ago) takes the helm, you will be in much better mood.
  • #23,133
  • Sep 28, 2023 7:05pm Sep 28, 2023 7:05pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} If you luck out and your fave convicted felon (soon to be but should have been long ago) takes the helm, you will be in much better mood.
The lunacy is pretty bi-partisan.
  • #23,134
  • Sep 28, 2023 7:11pm Sep 28, 2023 7:11pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} If you luck out and your fave convicted felon (soon to be but should have been long ago) takes the helm, you will be in much better mood.
See this the problem. He still lives in all of you folks heads. The hatred for one man convinces people they should support all of the lunacy of this current government....simply because, hey, atleast it's not Trump. No rebuttals, of course, to any of the actual items I mentioned? Yeah, didn't think so.
  • #23,135
  • Sep 28, 2023 8:08pm Sep 28, 2023 8:08pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} See this the problem. He still lives in all of you folks heads. The hatred for one man convinces people they should support all of the lunacy of this current government....simply because, hey, atleast it's not Trump. No rebuttals, of course, to any of the actual items I mentioned? Yeah, didn't think so.
Rebuttals:
..blind, naive, or perhaps you just choose to ignore reality bunch of sutpid accusations not worth replying to.
wake-up, my friend, it's all becoming reality. Right back at you
Covid is bullshit and the "vaccines" don't work. They worked for me, so stop spreading misinformation. Did they work for you? Oh you didn't take any? Then you have no say in this.
Climate will always change. I don't expect you to see the world beyond tip of your nose, so maybe watch news about all the environmental phenomenon linked to pollution and human abuse. But again, never mind. Too much for you to understand.
There are only 2 genders. Yes and many shades of grey in between. There are 2 kinds of ppl. Those who have hair and those who are bald. You have a problem with in between black and white I see. There are many shades between bald and hairy too but you will squawk about only crap you want.
Whatever the rest...I've wasted enough time on this.

Oh...Pls stop bitching on this thread about politics and engaging ppl in it. Mb try 4chan.
  • #23,136
  • Sep 28, 2023 8:25pm Sep 28, 2023 8:25pm
Quoting Ferna
yeah proably same thing happen to Europe, we seem to copy everything from america. Maybe better be a refugee and flee to Africa soon.
-Although much of our legal system was adopted from the common law system of England, much has changed over time. I cannot say that it has all been for the better. There are pros and cons to every place, so better to choose based on needs and preferences.

For those that can, obtaining multiple passports is the way to go, in my opinion.
  • #23,137
  • Sep 28, 2023 8:49pm Sep 28, 2023 8:49pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Ah, I knew I'd engage someone. Yes. You are exclty the type I am referring to....blind, naive, or perhaps you just choose to ignore reality. You see, everything us "conspiracy theorists" have been speaking about for 3 years.....well, wake-up, my friend, it's all becoming reality. Covid is bullshit and the "vaccines" don't work. Climate will always change. There are only 2 genders. Racism is fueled by the media. Border crisis? What border crisis? Go ahead, rebuttal any of them. I know, I know but the media said we should get our 15th booster...
I'm neutral in this as I don't get involved in arguing politics, wrong is wrong, doesn't matter Republican or Democrat. I'd like to share a personal story regarding the vaccine, got my 4th booster about 3 weeks ago and last week I got so sick and normally I don't. High fever that didn't break for a week, chills all over and couldn't taste my food, no appetite. Thought sure I had Rona, all test were negative. I'm still baffled. I'm done with boosters.
  • #23,138
  • Sep 28, 2023 9:46pm Sep 28, 2023 9:46pm
Quoting coastie0194
{quote} I'm neutral in this as I don't get involved in arguing politics, wrong is wrong, doesn't matter Republican or Democrat. I'd like to share a personal story regarding the vaccine, got my 4th booster about 3 weeks ago and last week I got so sick and normally I don't. High fever that didn't break for a week, chills all over and couldn't taste my food, no appetite. Thought sure I had Rona, all test were negative. I'm still baffled. I'm done with boosters.
the evidence is out there regarding the clot shot even moderna and fiszer says they dint work and the shot has so many side effect thats why they were given immunity against prosecution , you guys were test cases , the next fact is more people died of the shot that people died of covid here hospitals were give 70,000 per covid case can you see the fraud , so many didn't do there research i asked my doctor what was in it he said he didn't know AND PEOPLE HAD THE SHOT with out the knowledge but you all had taken it freely ,and that was a red flag
people leave, but this thread will go on for ever
  • #23,139
  • Sep 28, 2023 10:10pm Sep 28, 2023 10:10pm
Guys.... back on topic of the post
  • #23,140
  • Sep 28, 2023 11:41pm Sep 28, 2023 11:41pm
Anyone used Smart Prop trading..Any reviews??
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