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  • #22,181
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:20am Sep 20, 2023 5:20am
Quoting TrAndy1
He is also on trustpilot with his negative review. Maybe this review will be deleted soon. "Disheartening Experience with Funded Engineer Team I must express my profound disappointment with my experience dealing with the Funded Engineer Team. Placing trust in them has proven to be a grave mistake, as they have consistently let me down. My case centered around a challenge refund for Mr. Shams ul Hassan, and it has been a turbulent journey filled with confusion and frustration. The team leveled serious allegations against Mr. Hassan, including accusations...
One should take screenshot of those before they are deleted.
  • #22,182
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:21am Sep 20, 2023 5:21am
Quoting Vitore
{quote} Using one entity for evaluation and another one for "funded" trading is nothing alarming. Many prop firms have them separated, even FTMO (and MFF) Breaching account due to using HFT would be a legitimate reason if they provided an evidence. But many prop firms just don't bother providing any, so (assuming it is true) if no evidence was provided that would indeed be a(nother) reason for being cautions with Funded Engineer.
The most surprising or good part is that the CFTC did not say MFF was not doing legit payout for no reasons. You cannot say that on any other prop firm except FTMO of course. That would be the most severe accusation that any prop is not doing legit payouts, just only because they do not want it and want to keep all the money for themselves.
  • #22,183
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:23am Sep 20, 2023 5:23am
Also they the CFTC did not claim to silent any claims or for deleting negative reviews on trustpilot to make their company in better light than it is in reality. Many other props except MFF and FTMO were doing this. It can only get worse from the MFF case.
  • #22,184
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:25am Sep 20, 2023 5:25am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} What I do not get, is, that FE said he was not doing HFT trading style after he claimed not do so. But then again with the same reason they denied the payout again. I mean how this can be ? There is no sound logic behind those behavior from this prop. There might be dispute between Funded Engineer and Scaled Trader company I guess. But here it is, the legal case. Interesting to see if it will be ever able to public to see how it plays out on the court, especially with the recent steps from regulators.
This reminds me how Bespoke treated me.

I placed a standard manual trades and passed. They confirmed. Later they said I used martingale. I provided evidence this was not true. They said ok, it wasn't martingale but grid (wtf???). I proved them wrong again. Then they said it's final decision and irreversible. Then I went public. Suddenly, they confirmed there was nothing wrong about my trading, reversed their final irreversible decision and even wondered why I was not willing to continue trading with them...
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #22,185
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:29am Sep 20, 2023 5:29am
Quoting Vitore
{quote} This reminds me how Bespoke treated me. I placed a standard manual trades and passed. They confirmed. Later they said I used martingale. I provided evidence this was not true. They said ok, it wasn't martingale but grid (wtf???). I proved them wrong again. Then they said it's final decision and irreversible. Then I went public. Suddenly, they confirmed there was nothing wrong about my trading, reversed their final irreversible decision and even wondered why I was not willing to continue trading with them...
Okay, it was a mess. But in the end they said that you can continue to trade with them. So why did you not get your refund + payout then ? I mean when they say nothing is wrong they need to payout you or ? Was it a bigger payout ? So you got your refunds back but NOT your payout, really ? After all that messages from Bespoke I would say you had the right to get back your payout and continue trading also. When was that ? In March or earlier ? They had pretty fast growth and some changing rules to that time.
  • #22,186
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:29am Sep 20, 2023 5:29am
Hey. Is there any way to implement a news filter for manual trading on MT4? So that in the case of some restricted news events, it is simply not technically possible for an order to be executed accidentally? There are some for EA's, disabling automatic trading, but for manual trading?
  • #22,187
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:34am Sep 20, 2023 5:34am
Quoting lddd
Hey. Is there any way to implement a news filter for manual trading on MT4? So that in the case of some restricted news events, it is simply not technically possible for an order to be executed accidentally? There are some for EA's, disabling automatic trading, but for manual trading?
I do not think so you can disable manual trading. I just would look on FF calendar when there are red news. Easiest way to do that and prevent any trading I guess. But I think you can get a timer for your PC that it will shut down or in sleep mode for some time period. But then you need to put in manually the given time period. So I do not know if that makes sense for you.
  • #22,188
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:38am Sep 20, 2023 5:38am
Here is a list (excluding MFF) where there are some serious red flags going on right now:

Myfundedfx - Massive slippage on limit orders, refusing legit payouts by saying there are snitches
TFT - Payouts missing, lots and lots of payouts missing
Fundedengineer - Refusing legit payouts
Bespoke - Refusing legit payouts
Leveledupsociety - Refusing all payouts
fundingpips - not so much but a few cases of wrongful banning
Rocket21 - Refusing legit payouts

Any others?
  • #22,189
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:40am Sep 20, 2023 5:40am
More claims right now. I was right with my opinion regarding FE, that they are very suspicious and maybe fraudulent. Their MOD on Discord said to me HFT is fine here!
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  • #22,190
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:52am Sep 20, 2023 5:52am
I think you need to have an opposite list of prop firms which are actually fine and doing payouts:

1.) FTMO
2.) Bespoke
3.) FXIFY
4.) ACC
...???

any others are still legit ?

For me Bespoke is also legit. But the opinions are different here. I cannot confirm this. There has been to many cheaters caught, that they get no payouts is obvious.
  • #22,191
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:53am Sep 20, 2023 5:53am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} I do not think so you can disable manual trading. I just would look on FF calendar when there are red news. Easiest way to do that and prevent any trading I guess. But I think you can get a timer for your PC that it will shut down or in sleep mode for some time period. But then you need to put in manually the given time period. So I do not know if that makes sense for you.
Yes. A timer that would shut down the machine or terminate the MT4 platform will work. I hadn't thought of that yet, thanks. I thought there might be an indicator for the platform that, similar to deactivating automatic trading, can at least deactivate the one-click trading.

Watching the calendar manually and simply not clicking anything makes sense. I was just thinking about the worst case, maybe forgetting it in the heat of the moment. Finally, if you are trading a prop trading account and this could mean your immediate exclusion, I would like to eliminate mistakes that need to be avoided as much as possible.
  • #22,192
  • Sep 20, 2023 5:55am Sep 20, 2023 5:55am
Quoting TrAndy1
I think you need to have an opposite list of prop firms which are actually fine and doing payouts: 1.) FTMO 2.) Bespoke 3.) FXIFY 4.) ACC ...??? any others are still legit ? For me Bespoke is also legit. But the opinions are different here. I cannot confirm this. There has been to many cheaters caught, that they get no payouts is obvious.
Bespoke is not doing fine but the rest seem ok. tradingpit is another fine one.
  • #22,193
  • Sep 20, 2023 6:03am Sep 20, 2023 6:03am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Okay, it was a mess. But in the end they said that you can continue to trade with them. So why did you not get your refund + payout then ? I mean when they say nothing is wrong they need to payout you or ? Was it a bigger payout ? So you got your refunds back but NOT your payout, really ? After all that messages from Bespoke I would say you had the right to get back your payout and continue trading also. When was that ? In March or earlier ? They had pretty fast growth and some changing rules to that time.
I did get the refund. But they still owe me bonus of phase 1 and 2 which they advertised. They never paid it to me. It was many times more than the fee. It was 400K account and maybe some 15% of those P1+P2? IDK and IDC any more anyways. It's over.
May be that you would happily make another business with a proven liar who only wanted to steal your money and gave you back a small portion only after you had to put him at the (public) court. I wouldn't and I didn't.
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #22,194
  • Sep 20, 2023 6:07am Sep 20, 2023 6:07am
Quoting Vitore
{quote} I did get the refund. But they still owe me bonus of phase 1 and 2 which they advertised. They never paid it to me. It was many times more than the fee. It was 400K account and maybe some 15% of those P1+P2? IDK and IDC any more anyways. It's over. May be that you would happily make another business with a proven liar who only wanted to steal your money and gave you back a small portion only after you had to put him at the (public) court. I wouldn't and I didn't.
How much was your requested payout in relation to the refund ?
  • #22,195
  • Edited 6:28am Sep 20, 2023 6:15am | Edited 6:28am
Quoting Vitore
{quote} I did get the refund. But they still owe me bonus of phase 1 and 2 which they advertised. They never paid it to me. It was many times more than the fee. It was 400K account and maybe some 15% of those P1+P2? IDK and IDC any more anyways. It's over. May be that you would happily make another business with a proven liar who only wanted to steal your money and gave you back a small portion only after you had to put him at the (public) court. I wouldn't and I didn't.
If they offered you to continue trading on your 400k funded account why did you not continued then ? I mean you had nothing to loose. You could just make more payouts out of them. So why did you say no to them then ? This funded account was still an opportunity to make some money. I would not have done this if they offered me to continue trading. Or did you loose your funded account right after because of trading losses ? There are too many things here I do not understand with you.

You really have thrown away a $400k funded account with profits on it ? They offered you to continue trading on it, so why did you refuse to do so ?
  • #22,196
  • Sep 20, 2023 6:23am Sep 20, 2023 6:23am
I mean Bespoke has staff and they can do mistakes, especially in the very early days of them when the new hired staff is unsure about interpreting their own rules. So in the end they admitted they have done a mistake. You got a refund back and they offered you to continue trading on your 400k funded account. So what happened then ?
  • #22,197
  • Sep 20, 2023 6:24am Sep 20, 2023 6:24am
Quoting TrAndy1
I think you need to have an opposite list of prop firms which are actually fine and doing payouts: 1.) FTMO 2.) Bespoke 3.) FXIFY 4.) ACC ...??? any others are still legit ? For me Bespoke is also legit. But the opinions are different here. I cannot confirm this. There has been to many cheaters caught, that they get no payouts is obvious.
5) 5ers I think it's still legit though max is only 100K
  • #22,198
  • Sep 20, 2023 6:28am Sep 20, 2023 6:28am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} 5) 5ers I think it's still legit though max is only 100K

5ers is Legit I am funded with them
MY OPINION NOT FINANCIAL ADVISE
  • #22,199
  • Sep 20, 2023 6:28am Sep 20, 2023 6:28am
Quoting Takisd
Here is a list (excluding MFF) where there are some serious red flags going on right now: Myfundedfx - Massive slippage on limit orders, refusing legit payouts by saying there are snitches TFT - Payouts missing, lots and lots of payouts missing Fundedengineer - Refusing legit payouts Bespoke - Refusing legit payouts Leveledupsociety - Refusing all payouts fundingpips - not so much but a few cases of wrongful banning Rocket21 - Refusing legit payouts Any others?
Rocket 21 and TFT are both of Angelo's, as far as I know, so I guess one will mimic the other.

E8 with a huge backlog of almost 2 weeks in payout. Many people claiming in Telegram. Dylan says that's because they were being validated in Plane (similar to Deel).
At some point he said all was already sent just to be flogged by several users saying they received nothing. Seems a burning house right now. Let's see.
  • #22,200
  • Sep 20, 2023 6:31am Sep 20, 2023 6:31am
1. FTMO
2. Bespoke
3. FXIFY
4. ACC
5. Tradingpit
6. 5ers
...?
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