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  • #1
  • First Post: May 25, 2007 12:21am May 25, 2007 12:21am
I just get one new strategy..and i want to share it here...
I named it Spreading Strategy because we spread buy/sell position every 10 pips...
for example we use GBP/USD :
now GBP/USD 1.9850
so w put buy and sell stop ( 2 positions at same price ) at 1.9500,1.9510, 1.9520, 1.9530...... until 2.0200...
so for every 10 pips..we put buy and sell stop ( use mini lot )...
for every buy and stop position we set take profit 15 pips...
for the position that not reach the take profit or still open.. we left it still open.. JUST LET IT GO......the fluctuation and whipsaw and trending will make pips to us..
any analysis and comment will welcome..
  • #2
  • May 25, 2007 3:59am May 25, 2007 3:59am
can anyone make EA for this strategy.. may be with EA we can test the percentage of return...

thanks anyway if someone can make the EA..
  • #3
  • May 25, 2007 4:21am May 25, 2007 4:21am
If I understand your system is a grid.
There a lot of EA that do this. The most famous is called "makegrid" and you can find a big thread about in another forum (SBFX). I attach the EA, but I do not use it and I do not know anything about it
The grid trading looks something very dangerous to me.

Good Luck
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File Type: mq4 MakeGrid193-working_fine.mq4   28 KB | 824 downloads
  • #4
  • May 25, 2007 7:47am May 25, 2007 7:47am
Your intervals are WAY too small...in fact, that last move of 150 pips would probably have killed your grid.

Quoting budi_838
I just get one new strategy..and i want to share it here...
I named it Spreading Strategy because we spread buy/sell position every 10 pips...
for example we use GBP/USD :
now GBP/USD 1.9850
so w put buy and sell stop ( 2 positions at same price ) at 1.9500,1.9510, 1.9520, 1.9530...... until 2.0200...
so for every 10 pips..we put buy and sell stop ( use mini lot )...
for every buy and stop position we set take profit 15 pips...
for the position that not reach the take profit or still open.. we left it still open.. JUST LET IT GO......the fluctuation and whipsaw and trending will make pips to us..
any analysis and comment will welcome..
  • #5
  • May 25, 2007 9:08am May 25, 2007 9:08am
Grid strategy works well with ranging pairs. Do not attempt pairs like gbpusd, gbpjpy with this strategy. You will not know what hit you.
Bullish Attitude!
  • #6
  • May 25, 2007 9:10am May 25, 2007 9:10am
Agreed, unless you've got a good hedge against trends, the one way direction those pairs tend to maintain from time to time are killer.

Quoting marketsnipers
Grid strategy works well with ranging pairs. Do not attempt pairs like gbpusd, gbpjpy with this strategy. You will not know what hit you.
  • #7
  • May 26, 2007 4:54am May 26, 2007 4:54am
To an extent eurusd is safer, because even though it trends, it doesn't do in the fashion that gbpusd does.
Bullish Attitude!
  • #8
  • May 27, 2007 9:42pm May 27, 2007 9:42pm
for GBP/USD if this pair trending very high or very low... we still get our pips when the price goes up or down because we put both buy and stop for every 10 pips range...
example if the price goes up.. so we loss for the sell position but we get pips from buy position.. and the price will ranging or whipsaw..from the ranging and whipsay we can harvest pips from that..(no price just goes up without whipsaw or ranging)...
the key is the FLUCTUATION...from that we get our pips...
  • #9
  • May 27, 2007 10:09pm May 27, 2007 10:09pm
I've seen plenty of occasions where the price of the GBP/USD has gone 150-200 pips without a 10 pip retrace, and even on most occasions when there was a 10 pip retrace, there wasn't enough of an stop to overcome the losses of the orphans you would have.

It sounds appealing and possible, but I just don't think you have enough movement to overcome the fluctuations.

Quoting budi_838
for GBP/USD if this pair trending very high or very low... we still get our pips when the price goes up or down because we put both buy and stop for every 10 pips range...
example if the price goes up.. so we loss for the sell position but we get pips from buy position.. and the price will ranging or whipsaw..from the ranging and whipsay we can harvest pips from that..(no price just goes up without whipsaw or ranging)...
the key is the FLUCTUATION...from that we get our pips...
  • #10
  • May 27, 2007 11:31pm May 27, 2007 11:31pm
if the price goes up 150-200 or even 500-1000 pips without any retracement..we are not loss any thing because we open 2 position for every 10 pips range..
we lose for sell position but we still profit from our buy position.. the profit from buy position will add our margin so the minus from the sell position will not harm our margin because our margin added from the buy position that profit..
and i don't believe that the price will rise 500-1000 pips without any retracement...usually GBP/USD after rise hundred pips will retrace more pips or fluctuation for a day or couple day before goes down or up again.. if goes down..
if someone can make EA for this strategy.. it will explain the whole thing...
  • #11
  • May 28, 2007 12:13am May 28, 2007 12:13am
Quoting budi_838
if the price goes up 150-200 or even 500-1000 pips without any retracement..we are not loss any thing because we open 2 position for every 10 pips range..
we lose for sell position but we still profit from our buy position.. the profit from buy position will add our margin so the minus from the sell position will not harm our margin because our margin added from the buy position that profit..
and i don't believe that the price will rise 500-1000 pips without any retracement...usually GBP/USD after rise hundred pips will retrace more pips or fluctuation for a day or couple day before goes down or up again.. if goes down..
if someone can make EA for this strategy.. it will explain the whole thing...
how about the spread?

look at forex tsd-expertadvisor.... read all v1+v2 thread and fifthelement blessing ea
Simplicity your Life
  • #12
  • May 28, 2007 12:18am May 28, 2007 12:18am
[quote=budi_838;1452083]if the price goes up 150-200 or even 500-1000 pips without any retracement..we are not loss any thing because we open 2 position for every 10 pips range..
we lose for sell position but we still profit from our buy position.. the profit from buy position will add our margin so the minus from the sell position will not harm our margin because our margin added from the buy position that profit..
and i don't believe that the price will rise 500-1000 pips without any retracement...quote]

what will you do when the position is accumulated in the highest and the lowest range? even if your grid works, what is left in the corner must be cleaned,.
  • #13
  • May 28, 2007 2:12am May 28, 2007 2:12am
there is no need to close any position...
we just follow the price.. just close the positive one.. don't afraid if we look the big minus in our positions because to get the minus we have already get the positive ones...
our margin have added by the positive ones that we close..
and about spread..it's not harmful with this strategy...
with this strategy..it goes up or down..we got the pips...
PRICE WILL TRENDING..RANGING..RETRACEMENT...WHIPSAW.....THE IMPORTANT THING IS WE GOT THE PIPS...
  • #14
  • May 28, 2007 2:19am May 28, 2007 2:19am
i want to improve the strategy..
we just close the positive one....not use stop loss and take profit..
just close the positive one that we want...(about how many pips, it's no rule..you can close the position if you have time)..
so with this new improvement you don't need to staring at the monitor all day long..
if you have time...close the positive one.. and don't forget to replace the position that you close with buy/sell stop..
it's simple..keep it simple...
  • #15
  • May 28, 2007 5:05am May 28, 2007 5:05am
Quoting budi_838
i want to improve the strategy..
we just close the positive one....not use stop loss and take profit..
just close the positive one that we want...(about how many pips, it's no rule..you can close the position if you have time)..
so with this new improvement you don't need to staring at the monitor all day long..
if you have time...close the positive one.. and don't forget to replace the position that you close with buy/sell stop..
it's simple..keep it simple...

can you count this scenario?

example we use gbpusd with 3 spread.. and 10 grid

if price goes up 50 pips without retracement, let us see


buy 5 times hit tp ... it means 5 x (10-3) = $35

at sell position.... we have $ 165 floating minus

how about 100 pips without retracement... ?


we have to pay spread, and swap...

think about risk and reward strategy...

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Simplicity your Life
  • #16
  • May 28, 2007 9:39pm May 28, 2007 9:39pm
we can choose the broker without swap...
and about spread..it will lessen our profit but we still profit...
example if we close the positive position at +55 pips..so 55-5(spread)= 50 it still profit...isn't it?
and about floating position don't worry about it..if it retrace the minus will lessen..and we get profit from the opposite position...and if it continue the direction, we still get the opposite position pips added to our margin...
  • #17
  • May 29, 2007 7:36pm May 29, 2007 7:36pm
have you trade live with this system...

is about time... can you show your system in the chart? thx
Simplicity your Life
  • #18
  • May 29, 2007 10:44pm May 29, 2007 10:44pm
because it is difficult to show or explain use the chart.. here i enclose the excel file that explain dan count the pips..
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File Type: zip Spreading Strategy.zip   4 KB | 655 downloads
  • #19
  • May 31, 2007 1:21am May 31, 2007 1:21am
sorry but from the excel file I cannot figure out the method that you are using for closing the trades? What are the rules for closing the trades?

Quoting budi_838
because it is difficult to show or explain use the chart.. here i enclose the excel file that explain dan count the pips..
  • #20
  • May 31, 2007 2:43am May 31, 2007 2:43am
method for closing is just close the positive ones..so simple...
if you open your computer and look there are positive pips.. just close it.. and re-order again the closed position with buy stop or sell stop...
after that you can open your computer again whenever you want..close and re-order the position again..close and re-order...close and re-order..that's what we do...
no need any indicator.. no need the news..no need to staring at the monitor all the time...
just PATIENT.. and harvest the pips...
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