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  • #21
  • Jun 17, 2023 6:55am Jun 17, 2023 6:55am
60 trades on average.
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  • #22
  • Jun 17, 2023 1:09pm Jun 17, 2023 1:09pm
Quoting GMD
Hello fellow traders. The thing is as simple as the title of the thread. How many trades you take every month on average? Which timeframe do you use to pull the trigger? I am gonna be starting a poll so we can have an average of the amount of trades taken per month, but it would be nice also if you share which timeframe do you usually use for taking a trade. GMD
I can not specify exact number , about 15-20 trades.
It's important to prioritize quality, discipline, and risk management over the quantity of trades. The focus should be on making well-informed and calculated trading decisions rather than opening trades excessively. Adapting your trading approach based on your experience and ongoing evaluation can help you determine a sensible number of trades for your specific situation.
  • #23
  • Jun 18, 2023 10:15am Jun 18, 2023 10:15am
Quoting GMD
Hello fellow traders. The thing is as simple as the title of the thread. How many trades you take every month on average? Which timeframe do you use to pull the trigger? I am gonna be starting a poll so we can have an average of the amount of trades taken per month, but it would be nice also if you share which timeframe do you usually use for taking a trade. GMD
I can not specify exact number , about 15-20 trades.
It's important to prioritize quality, discipline, and risk management over the quantity of trades. The focus should be on making well-informed and calculated trading decisions rather than opening trades excessively. Adapting your trading approach based on your experience and ongoing evaluation can help you determine a sensible number of trades for your specific situation.
  • #24
  • Jul 14, 2023 1:55am Jul 14, 2023 1:55am
The quantity of trades executed per month predominantly depends on the trading style you've chosen. We tend to categorize traders on short-term and long-termers, timeframes depend on the same variable as well.
Day trader usually make from 5-10 trades per day, so using simple calculation they make about 100-200 trades in average. But these are rather dry calculations, and I don't speak for myself. As for investors, for instance, they make less trades per month. Sometimes there are such ones who make no more than 10-15 per month, because they utilize MN timeframe to predict what will happen to the price in future.
  • #25
  • Jul 14, 2023 2:21am Jul 14, 2023 2:21am
Quoting hayseed
over 500 but rarely more than 1000..... time frames used for triggers would be 15 minute thru weekly...... with the daily chart being the most active, followed by 240.....h
thats same i have too, 500-1500 per month. depends also how its calculated. when i get partially fills because of bigger order sizes by going in or out and when i reset rest orders and set it new this also changes the statistics.
  • #26
  • Jul 14, 2023 5:54am Jul 14, 2023 5:54am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} thats same i have too, 500-1500 per month. depends also how its calculated. when i get partially fills because of bigger order sizes by going in or out and when i reset rest orders and set it new this also changes the statistics.
that's impressive. is that automated or manual? If it's across multiple pairs, how do you handle overall exposure?
  • #27
  • Edited 1:33pm Jul 14, 2023 1:19pm | Edited 1:33pm
Quoting triphop
{quote} that's impressive. is that automated or manual? If it's across multiple pairs, how do you handle overall exposure?
its from many currencies. i watch around 16, but only trade some each day (1- around 7 maybe, depends how it looks like).
its manual, more easy to trust with big size orders and more easy to get cheaper in and out , when you know what to do.

overall exposure its easy to handle, you just calculate your maximum risk you have worst case when you will close all.
normally i only allow 2-4 % real drawdown , depends how much all is connected inside the trade setups or for what reason you opened the trades. but when i have very good wins in the month (greater 5%), i risk this wins as worst case closing point, so i can increase this 4% then to higher numbers.my biggest goal is maximize win/drawdown ratio (Calmar ratio) by same time hold monthly drawdown small.
and i don't let trades run more then 24 hours (if not running very great and a possible stoploss following strategy could work, but i am often to lazy for this and need the margin for other ideas and not blocked over days), so its inside 0,1 until 12 hours near all closed).

of course the win will extrem be different by what time i want to invest in trading (learning, strategy development, backtesting, forward testing, trading plans,.... all what is needed to make you not gamble and know your result over a bigger amount of trades), when i want work more the wins get much more , when i get lazy then wins get around 2-3% a month (because i only use what i have already developed and do my setups as often as possible (of course all setups trading are always best to do, to reduce luck in trading, but anyone gets lazy from time to time).
  • #28
  • Jul 16, 2023 4:05am Jul 16, 2023 4:05am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} its from many currencies. i watch around 16, but only trade some each day (1- around 7 maybe, depends how it looks like). its manual, more easy to trust with big size orders and more easy to get cheaper in and out , when you know what to do. overall exposure its easy to handle, you just calculate your maximum risk you have worst case when you will close all. normally i only allow 2-4 % real drawdown , depends how much all is connected inside the trade setups or for what reason you opened the trades. but when i have very good wins in the...
Got it, I was thinking more about exposure to a single asset - so obviously if you were long eurusd and long usdjpy you've created a synthetic long eurjpy but it gets trickier with correlated but not the same currencies - do you map out correlations or just intuit around it? I know there's many different approaches to it, but not many people are truly trading across the whole fx spectrum so I'm interested in your experience
  • #29
  • Edited 7:26am Jul 16, 2023 7:10am | Edited 7:26am
Quoting triphop
{quote} Got it, I was thinking more about exposure to a single asset - so obviously if you were long eurusd and long usdjpy you've created a synthetic long eurjpy but it gets trickier with correlated but not the same currencies - do you map out correlations or just intuit around it? I know there's many different approaches to it, but not many people are truly trading across the whole fx spectrum so I'm interested in your experience
normally i only care about all risk until my stoploss.
but when i take trades synthetic to save costs/spread (like for example with medium ordersize starting from over 50 lots gbpnzd its often cheaper to take gbpusd and nzdusd, but numbers are different in time of day and currency and events volatility, often even small ordersizes of 10 lot get much better spread and commission with "cynthetic" orders), so same like your "synthetic long eurjpy", then i take in calculation only the original currency pair (in this case GBPNZD).

and when i have combination of forward and spot it is of course different too.

for monitor and calculate exposure i did not found an advantage in this (i only monitor the cfd currency pairs results) , more difficult to calculate (any close of positions activates then new risk in what was before no risk maybe in a currency, so not only opening position is doing it, now you have open and close to recalculate) and each strategy has my own calculation models and only need to be in line additionally with the maximum allowed drawdown of the whole portfolio.

but for margin i use the exposure model, because has some advantages (against the model calculated with currency pairs), even some more advantages when you trade synthetic orders sometimes.
and i like doing synthetic orders often because of the much lower spread and the much lower commissions it produce when you want trade bigger accounts/order sizes.
  • #30
  • Jul 16, 2023 8:38am Jul 16, 2023 8:38am
Quoting GMD
Hello fellow traders. The thing is as simple as the title of the thread. How many trades you take every month on average? Which timeframe do you use to pull the trigger? I am gonna be starting a poll so we can have an average of the amount of trades taken per month, but it would be nice also if you share which timeframe do you usually use for taking a trade. GMD

90k+ trades per month, 1 min and lower
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  • #31
  • Jul 16, 2023 10:44am Jul 16, 2023 10:44am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} 90k+ trades per month, 1 min and lower
so you trade very low volume each order or you trade extrem high account values or fund accounts?
how many millions/billions turnover (halfturn calculated ) you do each month, so that it is possible see if its only one normal order splitted in many orders and so same like with 1 bigger size order ?

you do so many orders because you go in by grid trading style because you don't need to calculate exact optimum entry point, or because you use martingale a lot, or because you use many small brokers same time (for security reason or because of you get smaller spread fees) ,or because of latency arbitrage or other arbitrage models or just because you like many orders with very small lot sizes against big size orders (like do 100 times 0,01 order for a 1,00 lot order or 100 times 0,1 order for a 10 lot order, 100 times a 1 lot order for one 100 lot order.....), or maybe because because it changes the account statistic numbers on the end? did i forgot a possibility?
  • #32
  • Jul 16, 2023 1:56pm Jul 16, 2023 1:56pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} so you trade very low volume each order or you trade extrem high account values or fund accounts? how many millions/billions turnover (halfturn calculated ) you do each month, so that it is possible see if its only one normal order splitted in many orders and so same like with 1 bigger size order ? you do so many orders because you go in by grid trading style because you don't need to calculate exact optimum entry point, or because you use martingale a lot, or because you use many small brokers same time (for security reason or because of...
There are very small sizes, but a lot of trades.
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  • #33
  • Jul 16, 2023 4:04pm Jul 16, 2023 4:04pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} normally i only care about all risk until my stoploss. but when i take trades synthetic to save costs/spread (like for example with medium ordersize starting from over 50 lots gbpnzd...
thanks fella, interesting. I put together a half-assed correlation model purely for asset exposure but I'm not convinced it's done anything other than slow down my execution time so nice to see you've binned that kind of thing off too.
  • #34
  • Jul 18, 2023 9:11am Jul 18, 2023 9:11am
Quoting triphop
{quote} thanks fella, interesting. I put together a half-assed correlation model purely for asset exposure but I'm not convinced it's done anything other than slow down my execution time so nice to see you've binned that kind of thing off too.
same for me.
often there are ideas, and after done it shows more disadvantages and reduces concentrate on the important parts because consumes more time then worth it.

but i did so come to other margin Models to use, so any step working not like planed is always a step in direction of other plans, because you add some points to your list of advantages and disadvantages. and trading is only about collect as many advantages as possible, avoid as many disadvantages as possible, by this shift the probability over a set of many trades in your direction and then do this consistently to have the high numbers game probability on your side (and luck out of game).
  • #35
  • Jul 19, 2023 4:58am Jul 19, 2023 4:58am
totally. I sense from a handful of posts you're way more experienced than most on this board. what's your journey in fx been like if you don't mind me asking?
  • #36
  • Edited 6:14pm Jul 19, 2023 11:53am | Edited 6:14pm
fx i started in 2008 and did pay in some money and grow from this. it was a different trading time , higher spreads but higher moves too.
but now is same easy, only in different way.

with time i build up my advantage list and my disadvantage list, keeps growing and gets more information in any year. this i call my edge. on this edge (advantage / disadvantage list) i build all my trading systems after a special methode ( to find it, backtest it, improve it...) , from this i build my trading plans after a fixed method to bring in any possible outcome plus even what i do with the outcome, so no possible event can happen what let you stand without what you do and planless. after trading plan is set i never have to think about trading if i want, just do it (then you can even stop thinking, because you did already think about all, and thinking to much even blocks).

my plan was always to trade with luck outside the system, so i decided to do intraday trading because many more points on the advantage list i could use.
Cfd trading i chosed because of same much bigger advantage list against futures in fx.

my goal is always to have biggest profit/ drawdow (before i had wrong written "small" , sorry when this did irritate someone , so plan is biggest return with small 4-5% drawdown , so biggest ratio) ratio. so i grow steady but slow , but even with this slow and steady growing over this 15 years fx i got a nice 500.000 % profit, what sounds much, but its not that extrem over such a long time, its around 4-5% monthly in average. without my drawdown in black swan event CHF my drawdown was around 2-5% most of time. flatting my equity line with a standard deviation lower then 1 % is my second goal and i hold it since start.

luck i hold out of my trading with a lot of plans and strategies, but biggest is that my wins are often not big, but they are many trades ... because of intraday shortterm trading. so missing out trades have very small influence in end result and the "backtest- reality gap" is much smaller, or at least i can do much much more mistakes, what i still do (we are all human and have emotions) - but i learn from most and get new ideas and so was just paying for new ideas.

my biggest wins i had from my losses, because let me invent best ideas .... so its true that professional traders should be experts in losing. being happy about a loss is always a nice feeling because you did not expect a win before (for any trade you never know, you can only start calculating about many trades together) and just was paying for a information about the market, and loss information is best to pay if you want for decades grow steady and slow.
  • #37
  • Jul 19, 2023 1:15pm Jul 19, 2023 1:15pm
Only trading index options, I trade on a 1- or 2-week cycle, usually closing between 4 and 10 trades a week, probably 20-30 trades in a month, on average. I might take Aug off and also December......
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #38
  • Jul 21, 2023 1:27am Jul 21, 2023 1:27am
Quoting triphop
totally. I sense from a handful of posts you're way more experienced than most on this board. what's your journey in fx been like if you don't mind me asking?
how is your journey?
  • #39
  • Jul 22, 2023 1:14am Jul 22, 2023 1:14am
Hello Fellow Traders,

Mostly I use 4 Hour TimeFrame and On a Monthly Basis I do 20 Trades Approx
  • #40
  • Jul 22, 2023 10:29am Jul 22, 2023 10:29am
You've obviously got a natural mindset for this game. Totally agree about planning - trading is entirely won or lost before you place a trade but my journey wasn't as smooth as yours
I started just before you back in 2007 with the conviciton that nothing, absolutely nothing, is random. Applied to the markets I managed to lose hard, way beyond chance, so I kind of proved the theory in a way I wasn't really hoping for for about 2 years solid.
Set about discovering a decent strategy and initially went down the esoteric route but came up wanting so researched hard till I understood the mechanics of FX, then developed a method based entirely outide the charts. Went full time. Whole thing worked for several years until it became unviable.
But meanwhile spend aeons studying natural law, which is the basis of just about anything and everything. Came back anew to Gann & Honma, figured out what I needed to and been doing nothing but that since. But discovery process was torturous, the most useful thing I can say about it is that it's so hard, the time and capital you need to figure it out makes it probably out of reach for most. My biggest mistake was thinking it was relatively easy but the vast majority ended up dozens of times more complex than I ever initially suspected. Even now, it's not 'over' - still haven't tackled longer tfs and other markets outside fx/metals.
But now my focus is about automation and execution. I'm miles off full automation but inching there bit by bit.
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