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  • #3,181
  • Jul 7, 2023 8:56am Jul 7, 2023 8:56am
SB's latest video with a click bait title. Dude stop this kind of advertising.

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  • #3,182
  • Jul 7, 2023 9:17am Jul 7, 2023 9:17am
Quoting spzd
SB's latest video with a clickbait title. Dude stop this kind of advertising. {image}
if he is going to post stuff like that, he should name names it is like saying they hate, who what where when.
LOL
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  • #3,183
  • Jul 7, 2023 9:35am Jul 7, 2023 9:35am
Quoting Steverino832
{quote} if he is going to post stuff like that, he should name names it is like saying they hate, who what where when. LOL
Click bait BS.
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  • #3,184
  • Jul 7, 2023 10:02am Jul 7, 2023 10:02am
Quoting vidvad
{quote} Stacey is very hard to decipher for me because he has that two different "Day 1, Day 2, Day 3" counts and they run at the same time but not necessarily the same day. Like you said, Monday is Day 1, but for the other count, Day 1 might also be that Monday, but more likely it is some other day later in the week or even Thursday or Friday of the week before. I'm not smart enough to understand it and test it to tell you the truth. However, using previous highs and lows, three pushes, pump and dumps and dump and pumps and things of that nature...
I understand your points vidvad and it makes sense to just go with what you get and can work with. It's all there to discover, but just how hard one works is up to that person. I found this interview that was posted in the dutchy thread before to be useful, especially the part about not being able to trade a simple system because it was created by a different mind and personality.
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  • #3,185
  • Jul 7, 2023 10:09am Jul 7, 2023 10:09am
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  • #3,186
  • Jul 7, 2023 10:55am Jul 7, 2023 10:55am
Quoting Kwt4x
{quote} Richard D. Wyckoff is well known investor who know the market inside out, this is his interview with GANN in 1909. https://www.traderslog.com/ganninterview in 1936 GANN owned an airplane "Silver Star" {image} but everyone now want to believe an ungrateful son and a hater like Ehler, and ignore a man like Wyckoff and GANN math just because they don't know how to apply it and profit from it. :/
My question then, did he make the money for that plane from trading or from selling his courses.

I will read the article when I have more free time.

And, why, if one disagrees with something, are they considered "haters".

I do not follow Ehlers, nor Gann, nor Burke anymore, and I especially do not follow Huddleston the fraud (iCt).

Any one who markets trading needs to show a minimum of 1 year of verified account from a live trading account. If not they should not be followed.
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  • #3,187
  • Jul 7, 2023 12:01pm Jul 7, 2023 12:01pm
Quoting Kwt4x
{quote} the article will explain everything, as I said it's written by someone who know the market and cannot be fooled. selling courses will never buy anyone a plane , we might have million's of traders now, but in that era (1900's in New York) they are 100's or 1000's only, and not all take courses. they don't even have charts, GANN used to make his own by hand. no one has the right to disagree with proven math (Fibonacci, GANN, or any mathematician in any profession) unless they hate math.
We will have to agree to disagree.

I read the article and it is a bit lacking on specifics and detail. imo it does not prove much if anything.

Fibonacci only works sometimes. Gann methods only work sometimes. There are no mathematical proofs of wither that say they are pin point precise.

And to use the term hater of math is disingenuous crap. I use linear regression. And it works sometimes and does not work sometimes.

$1000 in 1919 is equivalent to abt $18000 today. So, I stand by my conclusion that his money was made through courses and subscriptions so he could have easily bought a plane for say $10k or whatever it cost in 1936.

And yes, I attempted to get the fraud iCt to show proof of his actual live trading and was blocked.
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  • #3,188
  • Jul 7, 2023 2:24pm Jul 7, 2023 2:24pm
Quoting spzd
{quote} My question then, did he make the money for that plane from trading or from selling his courses. I will read the article when I have more free time. And, why, if one disagrees with something, are they considered "haters". I do not follow Ehlers, nor Gann, nor Burke anymore, and I especially do not follow Huddleston the fraud (iCt). Any one who markets trading needs to show a minimum of 1 year of verified account from a live trading account. If not they should not be followed.
Even that can prove tricky as Tom is finding out, with mounting losses last month.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #3,189
  • Jul 7, 2023 3:07pm Jul 7, 2023 3:07pm
Quoting Shabs19
{quote} Even that can prove tricky as Tom is finding out, with mounting losses last month.
Tom is a great Inspirational speaker, not sure about his trading.
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  • #3,190
  • Jul 7, 2023 3:15pm Jul 7, 2023 3:15pm
Quoting spzd
{quote} We will have to agree to disagree. I read the article and it is a bit lacking on specifics and detail. imo it does not prove much if anything. Fibonacci only works sometimes. Gann methods only work sometimes. There are no mathematical proofs of wither that say they are pin point precise. And to use the term hater of math is disingenuous crap. I use linear regression. And it works sometimes and does not work sometimes. $1000 in 1919 is equivalent to abt $18000 today. So, I stand by my conclusion that his money was made through courses and...
$1000 in 1919 are you kidding me?
from 1920 It's surprising what certain items at the grocery store would have set you back in 1920. For instance, a dozen eggs cost 47 cents ($7.09 today), one pound of round steak cost 40 cents ($6.04 today), and three pounds of macaroni cost 25 cents ($3.77 today). Several factors including inflation and an avian flu outbreak have caused eggs to skyrocket in price at the grocery store in recent years even more than expected.
How much is $20 in 1919 worth today?
Value of $20 from 1919 to 2023

$20 in 1919 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $351.59 today, an increase of $331.59 over 104 years.
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  • #3,191
  • Jul 7, 2023 3:23pm Jul 7, 2023 3:23pm
Quoting Shabs19
{quote} Even that can prove tricky as Tom is finding out, with mounting losses last month.
Tom trades at a level that at times is more gambling.
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  • #3,192
  • Jul 7, 2023 3:26pm Jul 7, 2023 3:26pm
Quoting Steverino832
{quote} $1000 in 1919 are you kidding me? from 1920 It's surprising what certain items at the grocery store would have set you back in 1920. For instance, a dozen eggs cost 47 cents ($7.09 today), one pound of round steak cost 40 cents ($6.04 today), and three pounds of macaroni cost 25 cents ($3.77 today). Several factors including inflation and an avian flu outbreak have caused eggs to skyrocket in price...
I don't think the "guru" selling has changed in the last 100 years.

There is nothing new under the sun.
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  • #3,193
  • Jul 7, 2023 4:36pm Jul 7, 2023 4:36pm
Quoting spzd
{quote} Tom trades at a level that at times is more gambling.
Since I have been following him, over the last few weeks, I seem to get the impression that with him throwing large lot sizes at the market is going to change the direction of the market in his favour. Clearly it does not.

At times I think he gets into panic mode which clearly does not help.

He made a lot of money in trending markets, when market conditions change you can't keep using the same tactics, you have to step back,
Look at your mistakes and try something else.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #3,194
  • Jul 7, 2023 5:18pm Jul 7, 2023 5:18pm
Quoting spzd
{quote} I don't think the "guru" selling has changed in the last 100 years. There is nothing new under the sun.
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  • #3,195
  • Jul 7, 2023 5:34pm Jul 7, 2023 5:34pm
Quoting Shabs19
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  • #3,196
  • Jul 7, 2023 5:56pm Jul 7, 2023 5:56pm
I hate it when people delete their posts. Kind of a cowardly act imo.
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  • #3,198
  • Jul 7, 2023 8:17pm Jul 7, 2023 8:17pm
Quoting vidvad
{quote} We are actually above the immediate pre-covid employment levels, especially in the all-important 25- to 54-year-old age group. US economy is doing pretty well, even if one doesn't want to admit it. It is hard to feel like we are doing well with price gouging corporations squeezing every last nickle from us that they can, but those increasing corporate profits are what is keeping the money flowing.
I would argue the other way. The massive inflation gives the illusion that the economy is doing good.

The work force participation rate is at historical lows.

I would also argue that the job numbers are not what is reported.
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  • Jul 7, 2023 8:42pm Jul 7, 2023 8:42pm
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