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  • #16,721
  • Jun 15, 2023 5:56pm Jun 15, 2023 5:56pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Oh, my comment was not directed at you in any way. Sorry about that. You just happen to be the person that I quoted for context. I was merely making the point that these firms that claim this nonsense are a joke.
No worries. I wasn't offended by you or anything. Cheers.
  • #16,722
  • Jun 15, 2023 7:06pm Jun 15, 2023 7:06pm
Quoting youngD
{quote} I reviewed them (OFP) with 1 star at trustpilot with explanation and here was info about them as well, if i member correctly i said is scam here. And i remeber their dashboard is the worst i ever seen. It should be some scam report in this threat, too many props operating now and so many of them are cheating traders.
No point, trust pilot is itself skewed towards vendor in general, I reviewed OFP with all details and they send me for more documentation, I gave but still removed my review.
  • #16,723
  • Jun 16, 2023 10:42am Jun 16, 2023 10:42am
Quoting Capablanca
FTUK ... we are concerned about your trading history with us. As a firm we need to assess you further and see that you are profitable long-term. We want you to succeed with us long term and reaching the drawdown limit is in nobody's interest. Therefore we are going to proceed with your level 2 account but under 2 conditions: 1. There will be a relative drawdown to ensure a buffer on your trading account and to help you succeed to level 3. 2. Pay-outs will be increments of 5%. Meaning you need to make 5% on your level 2 account in order to request...
Its FTUK legit or no?
  • #16,724
  • Jun 16, 2023 11:38am Jun 16, 2023 11:38am
Quoting sampat
{quote} No point, trust pilot is itself skewed towards vendor in general, I reviewed OFP with all details and they send me for more documentation, I gave but still removed my review.
I dont agree. I can go to a website live chat, screenshot the conversation, write a 1 star review with "live chat wasnt helpful" provide that screenshot and the review will stay up. The company itself likely did nothing wrong and I haven't actually used them.
  • #16,725
  • Jun 16, 2023 11:51am Jun 16, 2023 11:51am
Quoting Vibezinho
{quote} Its FTUK legit or no?
Who knows.... I would do a lot of due diligence after reading those unwritten changes (several cases reported)
  • #16,726
  • Jun 16, 2023 12:37pm Jun 16, 2023 12:37pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} I dont agree. I can go to a website live chat, screenshot the conversation, write a 1 star review with "live chat wasnt helpful" provide that screenshot and the review will stay up. The company itself likely did nothing wrong and I haven't actually used them.
That's not quite true. The company may request you to provide evidence that you actually used their services such as invoice #, account # or whatever. If you don't provide it or the company says they could not identify you Trust Pilot will remove your review
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #16,727
  • Jun 16, 2023 2:01pm Jun 16, 2023 2:01pm
Quoting Vitore
{quote} That's not quite true. The company may request you to provide evidence that you actually used their services such as invoice #, account # or whatever. If you don't provide it or the company says they could not identify you Trust Pilot will remove your review
Next step, the first step is email address at bare minimum. Then they have to flag that the experience is not authentic. And thats when you hit em with the screenshots, so long as the review and the screenshots match, it suffices. If you say they never paid me but don't have proof it doesnt work but if you say I was not satisfied with their live chat ........
  • #16,728
  • Jun 16, 2023 5:03pm Jun 16, 2023 5:03pm
Quoting Takisd
If you say they never paid me but don't have proof it doesnt work but if you say I was not satisfied with their live chat ........
-This is an important discernment. It seems that requirements may vary, depending on the nature of the complaint. Customer support, is, after all, part of a company's workings.

More importantly, probably, is the potential exploit and opportunity for sabotage, since it would be very easy to deliberately ask questions that you know will not be answered in chat.

The flip side to that is seeing newer companies asking for positive reviews after only engaging with them via email or similar, without even using their services yet. Obviously, a cheap way to garner positive reviews and to get the ball rolling, but if people are willing, then more power to them, I suppose.
  • #16,729
  • Jun 16, 2023 7:42pm Jun 16, 2023 7:42pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-This is an important discernment. It seems that requirements may vary, depending on the nature of the complaint. Customer support, is, after all, part of a company's workings. More importantly, probably, is the potential exploit and opportunity for sabotage, since it would be very easy to deliberately ask questions that you know will not be answered in chat. The flip side to that is seeing newer companies asking for positive reviews after only engaging with them via email or similar, without even using their services yet. Obviously, a cheap...
the worst companies are those who incentivize good reviews. As part of some giveaways it includes the regular like and follow but also the leave a review.
  • #16,730
  • Jun 16, 2023 7:47pm Jun 16, 2023 7:47pm
Quoting Takisd
the worst companies are those who incentivize good reviews. As part of some giveaways it includes the regular like and follow but also the leave a review.
-Yes, or encouraging their patrons to spam websites like this one and take screenshots for proof etc..
  • #16,731
  • Jun 17, 2023 9:34am Jun 17, 2023 9:34am
Someone in the telegram group said that she received an email from ethics department of Funded Next asking for an interview before they provide the funded account.

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I knew that they were doing this before paying some people. It even happened to me as I said here. But didn't know that they were also doing that before funded phase.

The girl is afraid because she says she doesn't speak well English.

I never really thought about this. I think asking for an interview before paying is already an unacceptable annoyance. But what if the person can't even speak decent English ?

One can be decent reading and writing, using google translate, but speaking is a completely different world. I have not gone through their T&C but I doubt that they say there that we may need to be interviewed or that we need to understand and speak decently English verbally.

She could even be deaf, for example. I'm exaggerating, obviously, but from the most known props these guys from Funded Next are, no doubt, the biggest piece of sh* around.
  • #16,732
  • Jun 17, 2023 9:47am Jun 17, 2023 9:47am
Honestly, I would not even give any thought about this firm if people did not talk about them here.

However, one would assume that if there is a language (or communication) barrier, that accommodations would be made, and/or understandings be given etc.. Simply inform them of the situation.

Certainly, there is no reason to fear for anything, and if they reject her because they are unwilling to make any accommodations, then obviously they are a joke that should be blacklisted by all traders (if not already).

Probably, they just want to see that you are really who you say you are in an effort to weed out bad actors. Otherwise, what would be the point?
  • #16,733
  • Jun 17, 2023 10:11am Jun 17, 2023 10:11am
Quoting Nsak3y
Honestly, I would not even give any thought about this firm if people did not talk about them here. However, one would assume that if there is a language (or communication) barrier, that accommodations would be made, and/or understandings be given etc.. Simply inform them of the situation. Certainly, there is no reason to fear for anything, and if they reject her because they are unwilling to make any accommodations, then obviously they are a joke that should be blacklisted by all traders (if not already). Probably, they just want to see that you...
I don't think it's ethical to have this and not disclosing that upfront in T&C.

What if someone refuses because they didn't know about that and don't speak English ? Even if they refund it's not acceptable because she spent time of her life passing the challenge.

And it's even more serious if someone refuses the interview and, because of that, they refuse a payout. Is this acceptable ?

In my case I have no idea why I was flagged. I guess they tried to pick something to deny the payout because I had already 2 or 3 small payouts before and this was when I achieved 5% which entitled my to receive 15% profits from phase 1 and 2. It was an higher one.

I only trade manually (I don't even know how a EA or copier works) and only trade in desktop or laptop and using land net, so no IPs stuff. I guess they do this to everyone above X because if I got flagged - and I'm the most basic guy in this topic, probably - then everybody will have something they can pick to do an entreview.

Funded Next is really a super shady prop.
  • #16,734
  • Edited 11:11am Jun 17, 2023 10:47am | Edited 11:11am
Quoting Capablanca
I don't think it's ethical to have this and not disclosing that upfront in T&C.
-Are they asking for a quick phone call or something more?

I cannot imagine that any firm would reject someone just because they cannot speak English well, else they would just be digging their own grave.

If this firm is making something like this a requirement, then they should not only state that upfront, but it should be clearly explained what their expectations are and whether or not any accommodations (or exceptions/alternatives) will be made for those that do not speak the same language and/or that do not have a way to make a voice call for whatever reasoning.

But honestly, I have to ask why such a firm would even be on anyone's radar unless they are fully funded with the top firms already. And if that is the case, then they would not worry about losing an opportunity with this nobody-firm. Unless this firm offers something that others do not? Maybe a way to exploit demo conditions? Just saying...

I always say that if people elect to go with these smaller, nobody-firms, then they should probably align their expectations accordingly. In other words, be prepared to get scammed; expect horrible conditions, shady terms, questionable practices etc. and mitigate your risk as necessary.
  • #16,735
  • Jun 17, 2023 11:35am Jun 17, 2023 11:35am
Fundednext created the block big payouts trend. Others just followed suit.
  • #16,736
  • Jun 17, 2023 11:53am Jun 17, 2023 11:53am
Business is very simple actually. Start with this idea. Collect as much money as possible in the first months. Then beg that the winners are very few.

First winners will get money after three months.

Because most people that uses props have less experience they loose. So very attractive business.

If one makes a huge winner then you say your ip is not oke or your hair has not good colour
  • #16,737
  • Jun 17, 2023 12:26pm Jun 17, 2023 12:26pm
Hi there,
there's a new player in town : https://smartfundedtrader.com/
I don't know how to use TrAndy1's spreadsheet to rate them but I know one of the guy involved seems to be quite a honest person so that might be good. Also, I think they are willing to listen to feedback as they are pretty new. What do you think ?
  • #16,738
  • Jun 17, 2023 1:18pm Jun 17, 2023 1:18pm
Quoting obobinde
Hi there, there's a new player in town : https://smartfundedtrader.com/ I don't know how to use TrAndy1's spreadsheet to rate them but I know one of the guy involved seems to be quite a honest person so that might be good. Also, I think they are willing to listen to feedback as they are pretty new. What do you think ?
Its an influencer driven out of the box prop firm with 8cap, like every other one.
  • #16,739
  • Jun 17, 2023 1:57pm Jun 17, 2023 1:57pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Are they asking for a quick phone call or something more?
The email is not much different from the one I received. And that was for video call in Teams where they asked about strategy and where I had to show them how I traded (I was prepared for that and showed them some mumbo jumbo stuff because I don't care to share what I do to some scammers, I just wanted them to pay my money and get rid of them).

Quoting Nsak3y
But honestly, I have to ask why such a firm would even be on anyone's radar unless they are fully funded with the top firms already. And if that is the case, then they would not worry about losing an opportunity with this nobody-firm.
Funded Next is not a nobody firm. If you checked the traffic some time ago I it was ranked 4th.

They were good marketing their sh*. Payout proofs (true or fabricated, I don't know), lots of advertising and a lot of people promoting them. Even now, despite all these things with IPs, denied payments and intreviews, if anyone comes to the telegram groups and asks if Funded Next is reliable there will be a dozen of guys saying how good they were.

And it's recommended by the two major telegram groups so it's easy to lure people. People fail to understand that those groups are not a stamp of trust. They receive from props. They are not there to be honest or fair. They are there to pocket as much as they can from recommended firms.

We saw that with BigPips. A huge scam ran by one of the group administrators. Now they pretend to have nothing to do with that and delisted BigPips from their recommended firms. In the meantime a lot of their members were scammed because they trusted the group recommendation.

I feel sorry for that girl...
  • #16,740
  • Jun 17, 2023 3:26pm Jun 17, 2023 3:26pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} The email is not much different from the one I received. And that was for video call in Teams where they asked about strategy and where I had to show them how I traded (I was prepared for that and showed them some mumbo jumbo stuff because I don't care to share what I do to some scammers, I just wanted them to pay my money and get rid of them). {quote} Funded Next is not a nobody firm. If you checked the traffic some time ago I it was ranked 4th. They were good marketing their sh*. Payout proofs (true or fabricated, I don't know), lots of...
the telegram groups you speak of are paid to market them. Same as the review sites.

Forexpropreviews for example, its all paid nonsense. I am fairly sure most of the big review sites do the same as thats their revenue. Its same model as the broker sites. Truly scum of the scum.
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