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  • #1,501
  • Apr 12, 2023 6:40pm Apr 12, 2023 6:40pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
Here's the problem with people like you, ... Peter
That pretty much says it all, now, doesn't it?

Cheers!
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  • #1,502
  • Apr 12, 2023 6:43pm Apr 12, 2023 6:43pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
"Don't make excuses ..... make tracks and pay attention".
What does it mean if someone is petulant?
: insolent or rude in speech or behavior. : characterized by temporary or capricious ill humor : peevish.
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  • #1,503
  • Apr 12, 2023 7:16pm Apr 12, 2023 7:16pm
I have every right and reason to speak my mind. I don't conform to "PC" crap as it's a direct violation of being a living thinking human. I've been trading a lot longer than many and have seen all sorts of crap. And lived life instead of reading about it. So yes I can say I have learned some things. Quotes are all well and good but that's not real life. THAT is what social media rubbish has done to you people. Being real and thick skinned just isn't normal anymore. I don't challenge because I think I know everything I do it because I have lived and learned. End of story. I don't need to hide behind "memes" etc ... I have lived. And yes I'm sick of people's bullshit. It's hard enough for most people to learn anything new these days, let alone have to deal with dickheads on the walking path getting in the way, without any real guidance on foundational work. So who cares who you are in real life. I challenge myself and others. Can't hack it then (what is it the kids say now?) ....Step off !!! I told you from the beginning that I don't play by the rules and don't screw around. The thread I started is proof of that.

So if your responses are the best you can muster, good luck. Idiots will follow you and others will simply learn beyond you.

Peter
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  • #1,504
  • Apr 12, 2023 7:35pm Apr 12, 2023 7:35pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
I have every right and reason to speak my mind. I don't conform to "PC" crap as it's a direct violation of being a living thinking human. I've been trading a lot longer than many and have seen all sorts of crap. And lived life instead of reading about it. So yes I can say I have learned some things. Quotes are all well and good but that's not real life. THAT is what social media rubbish has done to you people. Being real and thick skinned just isn't normal anymore. I don't challenge because I think I know everything I do it because I have lived...
Here's how CHAT AI psychoanalyzed the above message:

Based on the message provided, it appears that the writer, Peter, may have some characteristics of a narcissistic personality. He seems to hold himself in high regard and places great importance on his own life experiences, which he views as superior to reading or quoting sources. He also seems to have little regard for other people's opinions, dismissing them as "PC crap" and "social media rubbish."

Peter may also be prone to being defensive and confrontational, as evidenced by his challenge to others and his assertion that he does not play by the rules. He may have difficulty handling criticism or feedback, which could lead him to respond aggressively or dismissively.

Overall, Peter's message suggests that he values his own experiences and opinions above all else, and may struggle with empathy or understanding other perspectives. He may benefit from working on developing more humility and openness to different ideas and feedback from others.
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  • #1,505
  • Apr 12, 2023 7:54pm Apr 12, 2023 7:54pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} Here's how CHAT AI psychoanalyzed the above message: Based on the message provided, it appears that the writer, Peter, may have some characteristics of a narcissistic personality. He seems to hold himself in high regard and places great importance on his own life experiences, which he views as superior to reading or quoting sources. He also seems to have little regard for other people's opinions, dismissing them as "PC crap" and "social media rubbish." Peter may also be prone to being defensive and confrontational, as evidenced by his challenge...
And that proves my point. You don't understand real things so have to use "modern psychology" to disguise your own ignorance. For me, I simply won't replace real stuff for bullshit. That's all it comes down to. Not my opinions. On this site, there is NO formal section for human psychology. To me that proves EVERYTHING. It proves this is not a serious site for people. The people who choose to stay around all the time for years and years cannot be taken seriously at all and just get in the way of others who wish to learn. It is why I stated early on that REAL persons who actually want to learn need not interact with the site ie sign up. It's worthless, useless and only hinders. To me you are not a real person, you're just some anon. presence on a website. So it won't change what someone has learned in full form instead of just sitting online using pitiful modern psych to do anything.

So none of that stuff is even contextually accurate re myself. I'm not after anything. I have something to say and share and I do that. You don't like it then bad luck. We don't have to like each other and I don't have to agree with people's bullshit. BUT ...... I DO love it when LIFE is ignored by people. So therefore, who gives a rats ass what people say about me.

Modern psych is for lazy people. So good luck with that.

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #1,506
  • Apr 12, 2023 7:56pm Apr 12, 2023 7:56pm
"If you value Life's learning over people's instruction, you will go far."

** Dickheads will always be dickheads. ==
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  • #1,507
  • Apr 12, 2023 8:25pm Apr 12, 2023 8:25pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} And that proves my point. You don't understand real things so have to use "modern psychology" to disguise your own ignorance. For me, I simply won't replace real stuff for bullshit. That's all it comes down to. Not my opinions. On this site, there is NO formal section for human psychology. To me that proves EVERYTHING. It proves this is not a serious site for people. The people who choose to stay around all the time for years and years cannot be taken seriously at all and just get in the way of others who wish to learn. It is why I stated...
Here's how CHAT AI psychoanalyzed the above message:

It appears that the writer is expressing a strong opinion regarding modern psychology and its validity. The tone of the message suggests that the writer is defensive and dismissive of the field of psychology, and may have a negative view of those who use it.

The writer also seems to have a strong sense of individuality and independence, as they emphasize the importance of relying on "real stuff" rather than relying on what they see as "bullshit" psychology. Additionally, the writer appears to view themselves as someone who is not interested in the opinions of others, and may have a dismissive attitude towards those who do not share their views.

Overall, the writer's tone suggests a high level of defensiveness and hostility towards the field of psychology, and a strong desire to assert their independence and individuality. However, without additional context or information, it is difficult to make a more detailed analysis of the writer's psychological state or motivations.
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  • #1,508
  • Apr 12, 2023 9:13pm Apr 12, 2023 9:13pm
Enjoy.

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  • #1,509
  • Apr 12, 2023 9:17pm Apr 12, 2023 9:17pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote}
Here's how CHAT AI psychoanalyzed the above message:
It appears that the writer is expressing a strong opinion regarding modern psychology and its validity.
The tone of the message suggests that the writer is defensive and dismissive of the field of psychology, and may have a negative view of those who use it.

ffs TS

You are obviously taking the p!ss out of the discussion just now lol.

But if not.

Can you maybe ask your AI where it received "it's" opinion about "modern psychology" and the AI stated "validity"

Then we might get somewhere with this (pretend, imo) Artifical Intelligence

(artificial might just be the truest thing in the sentences)

Can we then ask the AI to analyse itself as to HOW & WHY it reaches its "own " conclusions

I'll just use my 'own' thinking in the meantime though
  • #1,510
  • Apr 20, 2023 10:46am Apr 20, 2023 10:46am
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  • #1,511
  • Apr 22, 2023 6:36pm Apr 22, 2023 6:36pm
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  • Apr 27, 2023 5:17pm Apr 27, 2023 5:17pm
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  • May 28, 2023 10:01am May 28, 2023 10:01am
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  • May 31, 2023 3:06pm May 31, 2023 3:06pm
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  • May 31, 2023 3:21pm May 31, 2023 3:21pm
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  • #1,516
  • May 31, 2023 7:19pm May 31, 2023 7:19pm
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} ffs TS You are obviously taking the p!ss out of the discussion just now lol. But if not. Can you maybe ask your AI where it received "it's" opinion about "modern psychology" and the AI stated "validity" Then we might get somewhere with this (pretend, imo) Artifical Intelligence (artificial might just be the truest thing in the sentences) Can we then ask the AI to analyse itself as to HOW & WHY it reaches its "own " conclusions I'll just use my 'own' thinking in the meantime though
where does ChatGPT receive "it's" opinion about "modern psychology" and the AI stated "validity"

ChatGPT

As an AI language model, ChatGPT doesn't have personal opinions or beliefs. It doesn't possess inherent knowledge or receive input from external sources. The responses provided by ChatGPT are generated based on patterns and information present in the training data it was trained on, which includes a wide range of internet text available up until September 2021.
When ChatGPT mentions the "validity" of something like "modern psychology," it is merely providing a generic response based on patterns observed in the training data. It doesn't have access to the latest developments or research in the field of psychology beyond what was available up until September 2021. Therefore, it's always a good idea to consult experts, professionals, or trusted sources for up-to-date and accurate information.
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  • #1,517
  • May 31, 2023 7:20pm May 31, 2023 7:20pm
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} ffs TS You are obviously taking the p!ss out of the discussion just now lol. But if not. Can you maybe ask your AI where it received "it's" opinion about "modern psychology" and the AI stated "validity" Then we might get somewhere with this (pretend, imo) Artifical Intelligence (artificial might just be the truest thing in the sentences) Can we then ask the AI to analyse itself as to HOW & WHY it reaches its "own " conclusions I'll just use my 'own' thinking in the meantime though

Asking ChatGPT to analyse itself as to HOW & WHY it reaches its "own " conclusions

ChatGPT

ChatGPT reaches conclusions or generates responses based on patterns and information present in the training data it was trained on. During the training process, GPT models are exposed to a large amount of text data from diverse sources such as books, articles, websites, and other written material. The model learns to identify patterns in the data and make predictions based on those patterns.
When you ask a question or provide a prompt, ChatGPT tries to generate a response that is consistent with the patterns it has learned. It analyzes the context provided and generates a response by predicting the most likely continuation based on its training.
It's important to note that while ChatGPT can generate responses that may seem logical or coherent, it doesn't have a genuine understanding or awareness. It doesn't possess personal experiences, beliefs, or access to external knowledge beyond what was in the training data.
ChatGPT's responses can vary based on the specific input it receives. Sometimes it might provide accurate information, but it can also generate incorrect or nonsensical responses. Therefore, it's always advisable to fact-check and verify the information provided by consulting reliable sources or experts.
Overall, ChatGPT's responses are based on statistical patterns observed in its training data and its ability to predict likely continuations given a particular context.



Regenerate response
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  • #1,518
  • May 31, 2023 10:06pm May 31, 2023 10:06pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote}
Asking ChatGPT to analyse itself as to HOW & WHY it reaches its "own " conclusions

ChatGPT
ChatGPT reaches conclusions or generates responses based on patterns and information present in the training data it was trained on.
During the training process, GPT models are exposed to a large amount of text data from diverse sources such as books, articles, websites, and other written material. The model learns to identify patterns in the data and make predictions based on those patterns. When...

Hi TS,

Pretty much as I expected from what I see as the artficial part of the new deal AI.
Chat by its own words will research & comment, in great detail, on the basis of the "training data" it had to work with that was input somewhere for Chat's convenience.

When folks can assess the WHO it was/is that provided the data for Chats assessment they can get closer to the validity of "Chat information output"
from the ORIGINAL input.

In the early PC days in the mid 80's I remember when we started programming so we could quickly extract data from a database, that the biggest weakness of course would not be the programmers, but the original data (base) itself.

It was refrerred to as GIGO. Garbage In, Garbage Out.

As long as folks will do their own due diligence on anything coming out of the mouths of people AND the artificial Artificial Intelligence then they may have a good hope of navigating this world to their own best outcomes based maybe on what they discard, and not necessarily from what they keep.

Cheers for the update.
  • #1,519
  • May 31, 2023 10:13pm May 31, 2023 10:13pm
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Hi TS, Pretty much as I expected from what I see as the artficial part of the new deal AI. Chat by its own words will research & comment, in great detail, on the basis of the "training data" it had to work with that was input somewhere for Chat's convenience. When folks can assess the WHO it was/is that provided the data for Chats assessment they can get closer to the validity of "Chat information output" from the ORIGINAL input. In the early PC days in the mid 80's I remember when we started programming so we could quickly extract data...
I find specifically with ChatGPT it is very important to ask the right question. You can get very different answers by rephrasing your question. The model also adapts to your answers. I asked it to help me develop code to recognize price patterns. The AI originally stated that it was not able to comply. I asked why and so on, in the end getting the code that I wanted after a debate.
  • #1,520
  • Jul 13, 2023 5:26pm Jul 13, 2023 5:26pm
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