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  • #1,481
  • Apr 9, 2023 11:36pm Apr 9, 2023 11:36pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
I have a quote I would like to insert here that was told to me many years ago at the beginning of my career ..... "If a person possesses an opinion about something important but has no knowledge of the truth of such an opinion or its subject matter, then how can one's thinking be trusted?" I find this to be VERY appropriate to people I see all around these days about a great MANY things. Peter
Knowledge is not a requirement to have an opinion.

Trust facts, not opinions.
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  • #1,482
  • Apr 10, 2023 3:43am Apr 10, 2023 3:43am
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} Knowledge is not a requirement to have an opinion. Trust facts, not opinions.
In my experience, opinions and facts are interchangeable. And so, a rather silly thing to say regarding opinion and knowledge. That is why the quote I offered uses a specific context ...... "opinion about something important but has no knowledge of the truth of such an opinion or its subject matter" ...... the person who said it to me, understood that many people are addicted to opinions/facts and consider them "the truth", which is an absurd concept in the real world. It's about understanding the difference between Life and one's mere opinion or "facts". And since an opinion or fact is just an extension of a person's own thinking, we come full circle back to the quote I offered. People who rely on or "trust" opinions or facts, without the other pieces are no better off. And so you have misunderstood the quote. Congratulations.

Peter
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  • #1,483
  • Apr 10, 2023 9:38am Apr 10, 2023 9:38am
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} In my experience, opinions and facts are interchangeable. And so, a rather silly thing to say regarding opinion and knowledge. That is why the quote I offered uses a specific context ...... "opinion about something important but has no knowledge of the truth of such an opinion or its subject matter" ...... the person who said it to me, understood that many people are addicted to opinions/facts and consider them "the truth", which is an absurd concept in the real world. It's about understanding the difference between Life and one's mere opinion...

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o·pin·ion

noun

  1. a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
    "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance"

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  • #1,484
  • Apr 10, 2023 8:27pm Apr 10, 2023 8:27pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more o·pin·ion noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance"
I am going to briefly write what I feel is necessary as a response but I do not wish to pollute this person's thread any further after this......

What you have written and quoted there is for a layperson, so they 'don't get lost amongst all the other words and language'. But it has nothing to do with 'what' an opinion really is, why it exists or anything to do with the relationships it has inline with other things such as knowledge. 50yrs ago people "stated that X is a fact". These days we know it has been proven NOT to be a fact, for whatever reason, therefore, nothing but an opinion wrapped up inside "other information". People would be wise to remember this happens a lot. Now to add, THAT definition you offered, is a bridged/amended version of what an opinion is. or was, in the past. So as I said, a VERY limited idea of how to define it.

Without using context, talking about opinions is akin to just shouting out words randomly while standing in a crowd of people.

And since most people these days do not know how to use an opinion beyond the basic form, they and obviously you alike, do not understand the different contexts surrounding "knowledge". So, a person can have an opinion about something without ever having ANY experience in whatever the topic is about. BUT, they must have prior knowledge of WHAT the topic IS (or some part of the topic), to then venture an opinion about it. This can be in any simplistic form eg. reading a single line of words and then blindly responding/reacting. And so, this is why I consider opinion and fact to be on par. The next challenge and problem for you and other people, is to reconcile the reality of what a opinion actually IS...... according to real life and not merely a book. Some people use it so they have a voice or have others know what they feel or think or believe. But this is a base use of an opinion. If opinion does not become something more, something broader and deeper, then it remains powerless.

This is the difference between one person trying to choose between vanilla and chocolate ice cream, and another person trying to find the truth in something.

And so now we come full circle re: the quote I offered to this thread. Your poor interpretation / maligned / sarcastic response to the posted quote, shows you do not understand specific basic rules of nature. Here's an example ... "He who sees no reason to learn becomes fodder for the oncoming person who desires to learn". This silly site is full to the brim with "sir-mix-a-lots" but seeing as a persona can choose what and how they react or respond, it becomes very clear who are the fools and who merely pretend to help or know / understand something.

And so, now, I return to the quote I offered in good faith ....

"If a person possesses an opinion about something important but has no knowledge of the truth of such an opinion or its subject matter, then how can one's thinking be trusted?"

So while your focus was on the literal and material world stylized view and mindset, the quote is offering the reader greater depths to consider and venture an opportunity to learn. Literal two dimensional thinkers will always miss the point/lesson/insight/opportunity.

In my experience, immature people rely far too much on facts or opinion as their base line for what is valuable or real. One possible reason is a lack of being truthful.

Apologies to AlexC for taking up so much space on this thread will all this chin wagging.


Peter
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  • #1,485
  • Apr 11, 2023 12:09am Apr 11, 2023 12:09am
Quoting PeterCaleb
... And since most people these days do not know how to use an opinion beyond the basic form, they and obviously you alike, do not understand the different contexts surrounding "knowledge"... Peter
What does having a superiority complex mean?

A superiority complex is a belief that your abilities or accomplishments are somehow dramatically better than other people's. People with a superiority complex may be condescending, smug, or mean to other people who don't agree with them.
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  • #1,486
  • Apr 11, 2023 5:07am Apr 11, 2023 5:07am
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} What does having a superiority complex mean? A superiority complex is a belief that your abilities or accomplishments are somehow dramatically better than other people's. People with a superiority complex may be condescending, smug, or mean to other people who don't agree with them.
And that's the problem with you people these days. It's not "acceptable/politically correct" to just be knowledgeable. My response was being thorough. That's all there is to it. You made a comment about the quote I offered to this thread. I responded. It's not my problem if you have trouble thinking. So if your talk re: superiority complex is in reference to me, its unfounded..... I merely have higher personal standards for myself. You should try it sometime, you might learn something. The problem I see with all you people is this - you hide behind all this "modern stuff" but lack the backbone to create suitable foundations, THEN, when this is seen, you want to turn the attention onto something else. So therefore, the more you try to run and hide, the more is seen. So as I have said, lots of idiots think they know some stuff, but really, it's overshadowed by what you don't know ......... hence the personal standards. Nothing wrong with having those nor having some self respect either. Good talk.

Once again, sorry AlexC.

Peter
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  • #1,487
  • Apr 11, 2023 7:13am Apr 11, 2023 7:13am
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} And that's the problem with you people these days. It's not "acceptable/politically correct" to just be knowledgeable. My response was being thorough. That's all there is to it. You made a comment about the quote I offered to this thread. I responded. It's not my problem if you have trouble thinking. So if your talk re: superiority complex is in reference to me, its unfounded..... I merely have higher personal standards for myself. You should try it sometime, you might learn something. The problem I see with all you people is this - you...

Great Minds Discuss Ideas. Average Minds Discuss Events. Small Minds Discuss People.
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  • #1,488
  • Apr 11, 2023 10:13am Apr 11, 2023 10:13am
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  • #1,489
  • Apr 11, 2023 6:10pm Apr 11, 2023 6:10pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} Great Minds Discuss Ideas. Average Minds Discuss Events. Small Minds Discuss People.
The usual belief espoused by people who think intellectualism can and will solve all things in life. Ideas, events and people are interlinked in Life. So, to speak of one is to also speak of the others, being their counterparts in Life..... or didn't the "memes" teach you people that yet? Or does it need to be some megalomaniac, or some intellectual turnocoat, or does it need to come from some other silly idea of intelligence within the human experience?

The fact that you love to use that saying, shows me you don't really understand it, or its potential, or its roots. Sorry, not gullible enough to submit to that. But I see your "liking/thumbs up mates" seem to "agree" with you. I love it when persona/people get cliquey, it always shows their true colours. Well done fellow 'humans'.

I COULD show or teach you many things about this but we've been through this already haven't we, on my own thread. You people only choose to learn something when you have a hand in the outcome. Never simply to learn and gain understanding. So self interest is the motivator. And so learning is devastatingly limited.

In my experience, small minds HATE talking about people outside the reference of anything considered unreal or unknown to them. Hence the small mind. I think you're confusing 'coffee shop chit chat' and catty gossip, with anything more real and substantial.

Therefore it has nothing at all to do with whether I agree with people or not. The fact that so many people on these sites seem to insist on going through the same cycles of resistance or inflexibility, shows me many things. The difference for me is, I don't like to letting my judgments get the better of me. Hint Hint. As I have said, there is no merit in how long a persona has inhabited these sites. It's all in the learning and not the pretense.

Sincerely

Peter
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  • #1,490
  • Apr 11, 2023 6:20pm Apr 11, 2023 6:20pm
Here's another helpful quote ....

"An average mind assumes they're intelligent. A healthy mind assumes both the intelligence and the unintelligence is present at all times and is therefore aware of what has been learned and understood".

I know that most people these days like to think they're intelligent, but man doesn't rule over the idea of, nor the definition of intelligence. 21st Century people are so funny in this way. You think it's one way .... but it's really the other way. Interesting isn't it.

Past to present trading alone is not intelligent, it's known as carbon copying. Get it??? Hihihihihi. Us carbon life forms are so funny.

I treat everyone on these sites equally, it's simply that I'm not as gullible or unattended as most people. SO bitch about it or catch up.

Have Fun

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #1,491
  • Apr 11, 2023 11:09pm Apr 11, 2023 11:09pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
Here's another helpful quote .... "An average mind assumes they're intelligent. A healthy mind assumes both the intelligence and the unintelligence is present at all times and is therefore aware of what has been learned and understood". I know that most people these days like to think they're intelligent, but man doesn't rule over the idea of, nor the definition of intelligence. 21st Century people are so funny in this way. You think it's one way .... but it's really the other way. Interesting isn't it. Past to present trading alone is not intelligent,...
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  • #1,492
  • Apr 11, 2023 11:12pm Apr 11, 2023 11:12pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} The usual belief espoused by people who think intellectualism can and will solve all things in life. Ideas, events and people are interlinked in Life. So, to speak of one is to also speak of the others, being their counterparts in Life..... or didn't the "memes" teach you people that yet? Or does it need to be some megalomaniac, or some intellectual turnocoat, or does it need to come from some other silly idea of intelligence within the human experience? The fact that you love to use that saying, shows me you don't really understand it,...
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  • #1,493
  • Apr 11, 2023 11:17pm Apr 11, 2023 11:17pm
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  • Apr 12, 2023 9:33am Apr 12, 2023 9:33am
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  • #1,495
  • Apr 12, 2023 10:00am Apr 12, 2023 10:00am
Trading Forex is the most difficult exam.

Many people fail because they try to copy others, not realizing that everyone has a different question paper.

Trade well / Mos
#Credit to original scribe.
Don't limit yourself!!
  • #1,496
  • Apr 12, 2023 5:07pm Apr 12, 2023 5:07pm
Quoting TooSlow
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Great. More out of context pseudo sycophantic bruce lee "quotes". Just what people need.
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  • #1,497
  • Apr 12, 2023 5:07pm Apr 12, 2023 5:07pm
Quoting TooSlow
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Great. More out of context pseudo sycophantic bruce lee "quotes". Just what people need.
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #1,498
  • Apr 12, 2023 5:10pm Apr 12, 2023 5:10pm
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  • #1,499
  • Apr 12, 2023 5:13pm Apr 12, 2023 5:13pm
"Don't make excuses ..... make tracks and pay attention".
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  • #1,500
  • Apr 12, 2023 5:29pm Apr 12, 2023 5:29pm
Quoting TooSlow
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Here's the problem with people like you, you have no idea what the person was actually like in real life. I would wager you've never bothered to make contact with Linda or Shannon or Bruce's other family members. Why do this? The guy was VERY imperfect. He was moody, impatient and became highly irritable at frustrating challenges. All this frickin' bullshit you people come out with about him is such rot. And the way people "idolize him" is VERY concerning. So, do what I did, MAKE REAL CONTACT with real people to learn the truth instead of parroting BS about things you have no idea about that was seen on a video or "documentary" or on youtube or the internet etc. Bruce, by many REAL WORLD REAL LIFE accounts was a TERRIBLE teacher. He was easily heated and would only do well when things were his way. It wasn't until he GREW UP and actually matured as a human, that he ACTUALLY came out with anything real and worthwhile. So like I have said, do some real life research. For people like me who can see right through people's toilet knowledge, it's disturbing to think that other (unsuspecting) people would be ensnared in such an action.

I don't have any problem with people learning. But I do have a problem with people pretending they understand something and then affecting others through it.


Peter
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