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  • #14,741
  • Apr 6, 2023 1:11am Apr 6, 2023 1:11am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Yep, that group

Ok thanks, what I'm thinking also .
  • #14,742
  • Apr 6, 2023 4:14am Apr 6, 2023 4:14am
just trying to purchase challenge from mff using bitcoin, can anyone help to choose btc wallet which broadcast payment within 15 minutes? binance takes time. thanks
  • #14,743
  • Apr 6, 2023 5:03am Apr 6, 2023 5:03am
Quoting tradealltime
just trying to purchase challenge from mff using bitcoin, can anyone help to choose btc wallet which broadcast payment within 15 minutes? binance takes time. thanks

try coinbase,, they are synced with mff. almost instant
  • #14,744
  • Apr 6, 2023 8:59am Apr 6, 2023 8:59am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} My question is....how does one go about joining one of these firms......It's like "hmmmmm, here is MFF and FTMO paying out millions, solid reputation from traders actually using them for several years, or I could even join TFTP, TFF, maybe even E8, they're all pretty good too, nah, fk it, I'm gonna join this brand new firm with the CEO being interviewed in his bedroom and the curtains blowing around, flapping from the fan because he doesn't have AC....yep, this is the one!"

Nothing makes sense, but maybe some of these folks... 1. are seeking out "easier to pass" props 2. are banned from the big 2 due to TOS trading violations 3. think the game is somehow rigged against them @ FTMO/MFF 4. are seeking out Funding talent/TPT perfect fill trading conditions.
  • #14,745
  • Apr 6, 2023 10:16am Apr 6, 2023 10:16am
Why was this thread moved to Broker Discussion?
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #14,746
  • Edited 10:45am Apr 6, 2023 10:33am | Edited 10:45am
must return where it belongs, this is different than brokers
Be happy, friendly, humble and winner!!
  • #14,747
  • Apr 6, 2023 10:33am Apr 6, 2023 10:33am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} My question is....how does one go about joining one of these firms......It's like "hmmmmm, here is MFF and FTMO paying out millions, solid reputation from traders actually using them for several years, or I could even join TFTP, TFF, maybe even E8, they're all pretty good too, nah, fk it, I'm gonna join this brand new firm with the CEO being interviewed in his bedroom and the curtains blowing around, flapping from the fan because he doesn't have AC....yep, this is the one!"
They join because they can cheat to pass.
  • #14,748
  • Apr 6, 2023 10:59am Apr 6, 2023 10:59am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} They join because they can cheat to pass.
Yes, haven't thought about that one. So basically, scammers trying to scam scammers. Both sides get what they desreve.
  • #14,749
  • Apr 6, 2023 12:32pm Apr 6, 2023 12:32pm
I feel like we are beating a dead horse at this point, but I will add my input on this again, anyway.

There are many reasons why someone might look at other firms besides the top 2 to 5 (or whatever), and it is not always for the reasoning that you might think. And although I suspect that the reasoning may not be good in many cases, I think that we should not discourage discussion of new firms here.

If people want to experiment or test the waters with a new firm, then that is their choice; to each their own. Doing so can benefit the rest of us, anyway, as we share information and learn from each other.

If people refuse to do their due diligence or heed the advice of this forum and end up getting scammed by one of these new firms and then choose to cry about it and throw a fit after the fact, then by all means, criticize them for it. But to criticize people without cause for looking at new firms and making assumptions about their reasoning is not very beneficial, in my opinion.

If we did not have people looking at new firms, then we would all be trading exclusively with FTMO at this point.
  • #14,750
  • Apr 6, 2023 12:35pm Apr 6, 2023 12:35pm
Quoting Capablanca
Also copies from the group. Now about 5ers. Could be nothing but better be alert
-Thanks for sharing. I'm not so sure about this one. The way that it reads is questionable. I detect some deception here, maybe even some admission of guilt. I suspect that we are not getting the full story.
  • #14,751
  • Apr 6, 2023 12:36pm Apr 6, 2023 12:36pm
I just pointed out that the same affiliates who promoted two scams are promoting a third, which is likely to be a scam. Its a repeated model. The two firms that were scams, I spent money on and got scammed.
  • #14,752
  • Apr 6, 2023 12:41pm Apr 6, 2023 12:41pm
Quoting mrdfx
Why was this thread moved to Broker Discussion?
They want the traffic moved from the commercial section to the regular section. They are steering more traffic to the regular section of the site.



edited for clarity
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #14,753
  • Apr 6, 2023 12:44pm Apr 6, 2023 12:44pm
Quoting Ak386
must return where it belongs, this is different than brokers
-I personally think that this thread is better suited in a non-commercial sub-forum. Being placed in the commercial sub-forum seemed to give people the idea that they could freely advertise in this thread.

There are also many duplicate threads in the commercial sub-forum advertising the same site or service, using multiple threads and bumping those threads regularly, using garbage technical analysis and other things to try to disguise their actions as legitimate. This just created unnecessary clutter. Many of them were in violation of the Commercial Code of Conduct, but it seems that the moderators were not too keen on removing them for some reason.

So, this seems like a reasonable concession to me. Just my opinion.
  • #14,754
  • Apr 6, 2023 12:47pm Apr 6, 2023 12:47pm
Quoting Takisd
I just pointed out that the same affiliates who promoted two scams are promoting a third, which is likely to be a scam. Its a repeated model. The two firms that were scams, I spent money on and got scammed.
-Your efforts are much appreciated and the information that you share here is invaluable to traders.
  • #14,755
  • Edited 1:06pm Apr 6, 2023 12:54pm | Edited 1:06pm
Quoting Nsak3y
I feel like we are beating a dead horse at this point, but I will add my input on this again, anyway. There are many reasons why someone might look at other firms besides the top 2 to 5 (or whatever), and it is not always for the reasoning that you might think. And although I suspect that the reasoning may not be good in many cases, I think that we should not discourage discussion of new firms here. If people want to experiment or test the waters with a new firm, then that is their choice; to each their own. Doing so can benefit the rest of us,...
I agree 100%, if nobody tested the new firms, we wouldn't know about them. However, one must be willing to take their own risk and be responsible for it. Know what you are getting into and hold YOURSELF accountable if you've been scammed. Taki does it, knowing he will probaly lose his money, just to confirm the scam.
I also will beat a dead horse here..... if you are new to prop firm trading and are only going to use 1 or 2 companies to start, it should absolutely, 100%, beyond the shadow of a doubt be one of the 2-5 we are constantly mentioing here as reliable. They are also posted on page 1 of this thread. Getting scammed at your first shot in this space will leave a very bad taste in your mouth and will probably prevent you from what may have otherwise been very lucrative.
  • #14,756
  • Apr 6, 2023 12:57pm Apr 6, 2023 12:57pm
Quoting pipmaster77
However, one must be willing to take their own risk and be responsible for it. Know what you are getting into and hold YOURSELF accountable if you've been scammed. Taski does it, knowing he will probaly lose his money, just to confirm the scam. I also will beat a dead horse here..... if you are new to prop firm trading and are only going to use 1 or 2 companies to start, it should absolutely, 100%, beyond the shadow of a doubt be one of the 2-5 we are constantly mentioing here as reliable. They are also posted on page 1 of this thread. Getting scammed...
-Well said.
  • #14,757
  • Apr 6, 2023 1:41pm Apr 6, 2023 1:41pm
Quoting spzd
{quote} They want the traffic moved from the commercial section to the regular section. They are steering more traffic to the regular section of the site. edited for clarity
Sure I get that and in that case I would think the Trading Discussion section would be better suited, well a good thing is at least the snake oil salesman can't advertise their crap here anymore.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #14,758
  • Apr 6, 2023 1:44pm Apr 6, 2023 1:44pm
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Sure I get that and in that case I would think the Trading Discussion section would be better suited, well a good thing is at least the snake oil salesman can't advertise their crap here anymore.
Agree on both counts. Discussion section would be better. This thread in commercial attracted some unsavory types.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #14,759
  • Apr 6, 2023 4:09pm Apr 6, 2023 4:09pm
Several are right, I think that one can be opened in the Forum Directory only for Prop Firms Discussion, I already passed the proposal.
I think brokers are different from Prop firms, but in the future all brokers are going to be Prop firms too
Be happy, friendly, humble and winner!!
  • #14,760
  • Apr 6, 2023 4:40pm Apr 6, 2023 4:40pm
Broker section traffic = more revenue from marketing by brokers
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