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  • #201
  • Mar 21, 2023 4:46am Mar 21, 2023 4:46am
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} So black and white thinking is on the menu again. Gotta love the ignorance.
Yes

Perhaps when you understand how to simplify trading down two or three external functions, you will not be frightened to trade larger than your usual 0.01 trade size.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #202
  • Edited 5:39am Mar 21, 2023 4:57am | Edited 5:39am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi ntk This is BWilliam's thread so I will drop my comments about my Bank Level BS here to avoid confusing anyone reading BW's thread. If you made $244 on a $5K evaluation, that's exception. Cheers
RickM, BWilliam i am sorry about the many many posts like my monologue disturbs or hijacks the BWilliam's thread. It is really not my intention.

I only want BWlliam would explain or describe clearly the blue box, and the bank levels, he posted in a mystic way, I dont think he want to brag but to keep what he understood and practice for himself only, he want to wake us up from the many false assumptions, so I ignorance the common forum good manor I research all the posts related to bank level, the blue box, the H4 intent target trading strategy, and I hope when i ask Bwiilam would give a clear direct answer. So everyone can benefit, can understand him, and not attack, misunderstood him like it happened recently ... if nobody asks how can BWilliam knows where what to explain the shortage or the thurst of knowledge, anybody who understand the H4 intent target trading strategy, can drop in and clarify what I haven understood so every reader would benefit. I do not hijack his thread, attack him, or undermine his right, his knowledge

If he ask me to stop, here or DM me I would respect the H4 intent target trading strategy should stay a theme of research, and secrecy. I will respect that, I will stop asking more question here.

PP: I hope BWilliam would give his opinion on this picture I attach, short or with detail explanation what he sees or know, for common traders
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  • #203
  • Mar 21, 2023 5:37am Mar 21, 2023 5:37am
Quoting ntk
{quote} RickM, BWilliam i am sorry about the many many posts like my monologue disturbs or hijacks the BWilliam's thread. It is really not my intention. I only want BWlliam would explain or describe clearly the blue box, and the bank levels, he posted in a mystic way, I dont think he want to brag but to keep what he understood and practice for himself only, he want to wake us up from the many false assumptions, so I ignorance the common forum good manor I research all the posts related to bank level, the blue box, the H4 intent target trading strategy,...
Hi ntk, the purpose of this thread is to discuss the faulty, misleading and dangerous TA assumptions. I set a intraday swing trade minimum 50pips requirement for TA traders to show us how to use TA as we know it for this special acid test that I set. So far there are no TA traders who have step forward to demonstrate this intraday swing trade as per TA.

This thread is not about the way I trade(should be in the trading strategy section if it is), a quant approach to bank intent to target trading. I wrote a summary post with links attach and referred to. Everything I intend to post on FF is on this post and the links, not more. Read carefully.
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/post/14348356#post14348356

I had to post about the way I trade as a direct comparison with TA trading to demonstrate this lack of assumptions in my trading. That's all.

TA assumptions are faulty, misleading and dangerous. You were given these assumptions, market structure or mechanism by someone else, regurgitated in FF retail traders community without any logical questioning. What's worse is such FF members who strongly propound such theory don't even show live trades that resemble the theory they preach. This is what I take aim at, and the purpose of this thread. To raise awareness what goes on on FF.

Cheers
Know what you trade
  • #204
  • Mar 21, 2023 6:00am Mar 21, 2023 6:00am
Quoting ntk
PP: I hope BWilliam would give his opinion on this picture I attach, short or with detail explanation what he sees or know, for common traders {image}
After market plunged below key demarcation level Wednesday, since last Thursday market has been trading unsuccessfully above this latest demarcation zone.

Today's attempt is the strongest thus far. Therefore this current bullish push is known in Asia session. IF failure is confirmed, market will plunge down to new lows. Cheers
Know what you trade
  • #205
  • Mar 21, 2023 8:32am Mar 21, 2023 8:32am
Thanks for the explanation and all the pieces of the puzzle are making sense be it slowly.

However could you please advise in any way how you make the demarcation zone(blue box?

thanks pal


Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Specific to this question, you have to know, 1. the demarcation zone(blue box) for all timeframe, and 2. bank target at the extremes. For intraday trading, you need to look at one timeframe upward(the same for intra-h4 and intra-h1 trading), 1. H1 timeframe, 2. Open line is wol, 3. Awr and adr Banks ALWAYS move price to demarcation zone(blue box) or the extreme. Which is already sitting on your chart for ALL timeframes, except traders don't see them and therefore not aware. Forex price movement at demarcation zones and extreme is highly...
  • #206
  • Mar 21, 2023 8:42am Mar 21, 2023 8:42am
Hi Rick

Is volume levels you looked at when doing your gold trades not a form of technical analysis ? I might be wrong but I just thought where we use info like that is ta ? I don't know still trying to understand this great thread tbh


Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi ntk Forget bloody TA, it’s not required other than a brief glimpse at a candlestick chart. First question? Is there expansion of price? Thats all we need to know, then apply smart money management to the chart and you will make some good money. No one makes good money using TA, they make good money using smart money management. Last night on Gold, after reading the tape and seeing excessive volume levels - I when Short. First trade Short failed - cut at 8 Ticks Second trade Short quickly when into profit due to great volume signals. Third...
  • #207
  • Mar 21, 2023 9:09am Mar 21, 2023 9:09am
Quoting hope&glory
Hi Rick Is volume levels you looked at when doing your gold trades not a form of technical analysis ? I might be wrong but I just thought where we use info like that is ta ? I don't know still trying to understand this great thread tbh {quote}
Hi hope&glory

My angle is this.

All tradional TA is price based, meaning most TA uses some indicator like a moving average or RSI indy that gets its signal directly of current price.
My strategies are only focussed on Ask or Bid Imbalance, so its based off Orders not yet executed or I may jump on top of an Market Order Momentum run.
Price is irrevelant for me and infact I couldn't even tell you if the S&P I am trading tonight is Bullish or Bearish.

Fuck, don't get Peter C started for christ sake.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #208
  • Mar 21, 2023 3:14pm Mar 21, 2023 3:14pm
Hi BW, do you want some intent-to-target trades posted here? Just checking before I post anything.
  • #209
  • Mar 21, 2023 4:03pm Mar 21, 2023 4:03pm
Quoting GEfx
Hi BW, do you want some intent-to-target trades posted here? Just checking before I post anything.
Hi GEfx, yes that'll be great. 👍
Know what you trade
  • #210
  • Mar 21, 2023 4:07pm Mar 21, 2023 4:07pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} After market plunged below key demarcation level Wednesday, since last Thursday market has been trading unsuccessfully above this latest demarcation zone. Today's attempt is the strongest thus far. Therefore this current bullish push is known in Asia session. IF failure is confirmed, market will plunge down to new lows. Cheers
Fail again as expected. Another attempt which look weaker. Tomorrow is crucial, h4 intent is still poised bullish. Huge move is required to succeed. Cheers.
Know what you trade
  • #211
  • Mar 21, 2023 4:27pm Mar 21, 2023 4:27pm
I know the demarcation zone you're talking about but i don't get it when you say 'another attempt which look weaker' because today's high is really close to the zone or are you refering to the last swing high of 161.96?
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Fail again as expected. Another attempt which look weaker. Tomorrow is crucial, h4 intent is still poised bullish. Huge move is required to succeed. Cheers.
  • #212
  • Mar 21, 2023 4:31pm Mar 21, 2023 4:31pm
Quoting angelofx
I know the demarcation zone you're talking about but i don't get it when you say 'another attempt which look weaker' because today's high is really close to the zone or are you refering to the last swing high of 161.96?{quote}
Hi angelofx, yes "another attempt" refers to this last swing high after London close. Cheers
Know what you trade
  • #213
  • Mar 21, 2023 4:43pm Mar 21, 2023 4:43pm
On H4 Intent, you've often said intent must be orientated to a level what is this level? DOL, WOL, MOL? Also 'intent without target is useless so even if we know the intent we also have to know the target. It may not be worth entering a trade if the target is already achieved while waiting for the market to show its hand(33% ADR or 40-50 pip move.
  • #214
  • Mar 21, 2023 4:46pm Mar 21, 2023 4:46pm
I got you.
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Hi angelofx, yes "another attempt" refers to this last swing high after London close. Cheers
  • #215
  • Mar 21, 2023 5:09pm Mar 21, 2023 5:09pm
Quoting angelofx
On H4 Intent, you've often said intent must be orientated to a level what is this level? DOL, WOL, MOL?
Hi angelofx, in hindsight, we can see banks intent to push price north towards this target after Frankie open. By level, I mean from where this push started. And for today first attempt is wol, and 2nd attempt dol.

Overlay h4 candle onto m15 chart to see visually this bank intent. Cheers

Quoting angelofx
Also 'intent without target is useless so even if we know the intent we also have to know the target. It may not be worth entering a trade if the target is already achieved while waiting for the market to show its hand(33% ADR or 40-50 pip move.
Correct.

When we trade intraday swing, we watch every 4 hour candle starting from Frankie open. Cheers
Know what you trade
  • #216
  • Mar 21, 2023 5:38pm Mar 21, 2023 5:38pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Hi ntk, the purpose of this thread is to discuss the faulty, misleading and dangerous TA assumptions. I set a intraday swing trade minimum 50pips requirement for TA traders to show us how to use TA as we know it for this special acid test that I set. So far there are no TA traders who have step forward to demonstrate this intraday swing trade as per TA. This thread is not about the way I trade(should be in the trading strategy section if it is), a quant approach to bank intent to target trading. I wrote a summary post with links attach and...
Thanks @BWilliam
Some gold nuggets in this post and attached links.
Need to read it again few times as I didn't fully understand everything
Cheers
  • #217
  • Mar 21, 2023 5:48pm Mar 21, 2023 5:48pm
This week, I've been trading the G$, $J, $CAD, and the EA. Attached is the EA which has behaved really well, within structure. Trade target to target, once intent is clear. Stay in your trades all the way to the target (that's why it's called a target).
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  • #218
  • Mar 21, 2023 8:28pm Mar 21, 2023 8:28pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} Yes Perhaps when you understand how to simplify trading down two or three external functions, you will not be frightened to trade larger than your usual 0.01 trade size.
Yeah OK. Maybe once you get off a website and step into real life you'll be able to tell the difference between an explained demonstration and something else, idiot.
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #219
  • Mar 21, 2023 8:52pm Mar 21, 2023 8:52pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi hope&glory My angle is this. All tradional TA is price based, meaning most TA uses some indicator like a moving average or RSI indy that gets its signal directly of current price. My strategies are only focussed on Ask or Bid Imbalance, so its based off Orders not yet executed or I may jump on top of an Market Order Momentum run. Price is irrevelant for me and infact I couldn't even tell you if the S&P I am trading tonight is Bullish or Bearish. Fuck, don't get Peter C started for christ sake.
TA is anything to do with a chart - any indicators any price action - volume is an indicator and is TA - on my charting platform volume is in the indicator section
Why is their such hatred towards TA??? I have no idea. If u don't like other trading methods then that is fine but don't say they don't work. Miliions of traders use TA to make billions on this planet
U use TA to trade and make money - accept it - so many in this thread have closed minds like BWilliam - he thinks no trading method on this website works using TA to make money when people have been using TA to make money for years in the TA threads - the proof is in the posts - just insane thinking
Any trading using a chart is TA - technicals is using a chart - not using a chart is random trading
I just shake my head in disbelief - time to wake up to reality
  • #220
  • Mar 21, 2023 9:22pm Mar 21, 2023 9:22pm
Quoting Steven1
{quote} TA is anything to do with a chart - any indicators any price action - volume is an indicator and is TA - on my charting platform volume is in the indicator section Why is their such hatred towards TA??? I have no idea. If u don't like other trading methods then that is fine but don't say they don't work. Miliions of traders use TA to make billions on this planet U use TA to trade and make money - accept it - so many in this thread have closed minds like BWilliam - he thinks no trading method on this website works using TA to make money when...
Steven1

Look at GBPUSD right now.
What are the odds it will go up 10 pips or down 10 pips.

The answer is 50% either way.
TA does not increase the odds of changing that result, it’s smart money management of keeping losses small and winners large that makes traders profitable over the long term.

Fuck TA - just get the fuck out if your’e wrong and stay as long as possible if your’e right.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
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