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  • #381
  • Jan 29, 2023 1:44am Jan 29, 2023 1:44am
Quoting vvm
AlistairC, i like your thread more and more atb vvm
So kind . Here's a thank you gift. Two very useful utilities (for MT4).

They are both scripts, i.e. they don't live on any chart and work just once for each time you activate them. One will change the timeframe across all your charts to match the TF that is on the chart that is open in front of you. Saves a lot of time and effort. The other loads the template you select onto all charts - you need to look at your list of templates and count down to the one you want to load onto all your charts. Remember that number and enter it into the script.
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  • #382
  • Jan 29, 2023 3:42am Jan 29, 2023 3:42am
Thanks Alistair
I test them

atb

vvm
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  • #383
  • Jan 29, 2023 6:37am Jan 29, 2023 6:37am
He Alistair
I am reading now the complett Thread from beginning
I am on Page 5

It is about Ur Post 87 with a SellTrade NZDJPY

I think sometimes the Channels give a bit more propper Info
about the TrendDirection and we can make a better Decision

Ur Chart without Channel
What do U say about?

atb
vvm

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My D1 has a Channel and H4 too
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  • #384
  • Jan 29, 2023 10:46am Jan 29, 2023 10:46am
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Alistar
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As a weekend preparation activity I thought I would mark up every H4 chart with which way the daily chart is going, as in the example. I will then ignore those that are unclear, sideways or obviously blocked by S/R or an extreme level until they show signs of a trend forming.

I've got these 10 going somewhere (as per the daily) and 18 I'm not sure about:
EURAUD down
EURUSD up
AUDJPY up
CADJPY down
CADCHF down
CHFJPY down
GBPAUD down
USDJPY/CAD/CHF all down

Of these, some are possibly at the end of a trend or are close to S/R, but I've included...

IMHO
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atb
vvm
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  • #385
  • Jan 29, 2023 11:44am Jan 29, 2023 11:44am
About Post 141

IMHO
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  • #386
  • Jan 29, 2023 12:22pm Jan 29, 2023 12:22pm
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  • #387
  • Jan 30, 2023 12:50am Jan 30, 2023 12:50am
Quoting AlistairC
As a weekend preparation activity I thought I would mark up every H4 chart with which way the daily chart is going, as in the example. I will then ignore those that are unclear, sideways or obviously blocked by S/R or an extreme level until they show signs of a trend forming. I've got these 10 going somewhere (as per the daily) and 18 I'm not sure about: EURAUD down EURUSD up AUDJPY up CADJPY down CADCHF down CHFJPY down GBPAUD down USDJPY/CAD/CHF all down Of these, some are possibly at the end of a trend or are close to S/R, but I've included them...
I don't quite know how helpful this can be (especially including pairs in a range). Did you find any trades using this list?
Wouldn't it be more helpful to look for these two things on higher TF:
a) directional bias: price is in a clear (!) trend
b) price is in a retracement at the moment
For me this means that I should actually be looking/waiting for an entry on my trading TF (the moment the retracement is over).
Anything that may lead directly to a trade is helpful. Anything that doesn't can be disregarded.
  • #388
  • Edited 3:30am Jan 30, 2023 3:17am | Edited 3:30am
Quoting josi
{quote} I don't quite know how helpful this can be (especially including pairs in a range). Did you find any trades using this list? Wouldn't it be more helpful to look for these two things on higher TF: a) directional bias: price is in a clear (!) trend b) price is in a retracement at the moment For me this means that I should actually be looking/waiting for an entry on my trading TF (the moment the retracement is over). Anything that may lead directly to a trade is helpful. Anything that doesn't can be disregarded.
Quite right.

My post over the weekend was suggesting no more than that certain D1 charts were pointing either up or down. It wasn't attempting to identify setups. It means that I can ignore the other charts for a while, the sideways ones, and focus on those that are at least going somewhere.
  • #389
  • Jan 30, 2023 5:47am Jan 30, 2023 5:47am
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Hello, I am long on GBP/JPY ( 4 hours). I entered the trade at 11am (CET) at the close of the 4h candlestick. Close above 8 EMA. Long trade on D1 chart.
At the moment it is GREEN (20 pips). Soon I will move the stop to breakeven as it is Monday and there could be huge movements at the opening of the US stock market.
  • #390
  • Jan 31, 2023 12:10am Jan 31, 2023 12:10am
Quoting neilpryde
{image} Hello, I am long on GBP/JPY ( 4 hours). I entered the trade at 11am (CET) at the close of the 4h candlestick. Close above 8 EMA. Long trade on D1 chart. At the moment it is GREEN (20 pips). Soon I will move the stop to breakeven as it is Monday and there could be huge movements at the opening of the US stock market.
The trade was BE. It was wise to protect that trade because at this point there is a pullback in the major trend. The market is waiting for direction as there is no clear trend and a lot of big news this week.
  • #391
  • Jan 31, 2023 12:42am Jan 31, 2023 12:42am
Quoting neilpryde
{quote} It was wise to protect that trade because at this point there is a pullback in the major trend. The market is waiting for direction as there is no clear trend and a lot of big news this week.
Yes, very wise, indeed.
"pullback in the major trend"?
Hmmh...
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  • #392
  • Jan 31, 2023 12:45am Jan 31, 2023 12:45am
Quoting neilpryde
{quote} The trade was BE. It was wise to protect that trade because at this point there is a pullback in the major trend. The market is waiting for direction as there is no clear trend and a lot of big news this week.
Well done for not losing on this one. Trading seems difficult at the moment. As happens from time to time it seems every trade I place goes the wrong way immediately after. As if the entire global market is sitting there watching me, joking about how to trick me this time around
  • #393
  • Jan 31, 2023 12:48am Jan 31, 2023 12:48am
Quoting josi
{quote} Yes, very wise, indeed. "pullback in the major trend"? Hmmh... {image}
It certainly seems as if something is going on that is tripping me up (if not anyone else). Any ideas what it might be apart from what neilpryde suggested?
  • #394
  • Jan 31, 2023 1:15am Jan 31, 2023 1:15am
I placed this trade yesterday, and as usual these days, it went backwards by almost 50 pips before turning bullish. Next is to see what happens at that upper trend line.
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  • #395
  • Jan 31, 2023 1:15am Jan 31, 2023 1:15am
Quoting AlistairC
{quote} It certainly seems as if something is going on that is tripping me up (if not anyone else). Any ideas what it might be apart from what neilpryde suggested?
Simple answer - as always - most instruments are not clearly trending on higher TFs right now (but either retracing or ranging - especially in ranges: your trend-trading signals very often coincide with a turnaround in ranges).
What do you do? You wait (or change to a lower TF).
  • #396
  • Jan 31, 2023 1:21am Jan 31, 2023 1:21am
Quoting AlistairC
I placed this trade yesterday, and as usual these days, it went backwards by almost 50 pips before turning bullish. Next is to see what happens at that upper trend line. {image}
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Is it a retest or will it break out upwards - you decide...
  • #397
  • Jan 31, 2023 2:12am Jan 31, 2023 2:12am
Quoting josi
{quote} Simple answer - as always - most instruments are not clearly trending on higher TFs right now (but either retracing or ranging - especially in ranges: your trend-trading signals very often coincide with a turnaround in ranges). What do you do? You wait (or change to a lower TF).
Thank you for highlighting this.

Neilpryde's analysis (pullback from the major trend) is not dissimilar. And as you say the MA crossover method is fundamentally a trend-trading system and does not do well in ranging, or sideways conditions and our task with this method is to wait until a clear trend emerges.
  • #398
  • Jan 31, 2023 2:25am Jan 31, 2023 2:25am
Quoting AlistairC
{quote} Thank you for highlighting this. Neilpryde's analysis (pullback from the major trend) is not dissimilar. And as you say the MA crossover method is fundamentally a trend-trading system and does not do well in ranging, or sideways conditions and our task with this method is to wait until a clear trend emerges.
I have tried to capture some of this is a diagram. If I have missed something it would be good if others could add to this using their own chart.

What we are looking for is to enter close to the MA crossover (but waiting for a suitable candle setup) and wait for a clear separation between the EMAs themselves and between the EMAs and price. The ideal (in a bullish case) is for price to 'dance' just above the MA envelope without pulling too far above and without sinking into the envelope.

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  • #399
  • Jan 31, 2023 2:38am Jan 31, 2023 2:38am
Quoting AlistairC
{quote} What we are looking for is to enter close to the MA crossover (but waiting for a suitable candle setup) and wait for a clear separation between the EMAs themselves and between the EMAs and price. The ideal (in a bullish case) is for price to 'dance' just above the MA envelope without pulling too far above and without sinking into the envelope. {image}
I have tried to show some conditions we do want for our MA crossover method (except the "explosion" feature shown on the left).

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  • #400
  • Jan 31, 2023 3:20am Jan 31, 2023 3:20am
Quoting AlistairC
{quote} I have tried to show some conditions we do want for our MA crossover method (except the "explosion" feature shown on the left). {image}
This to me sounds like an almost magical belief in a crossover.
What does an MA do? It gives you the average price development over a certain period.
If price breaks and closes above this average, chances are somewhat higher that the general evaluation of a fair price has altered for the time being, i. e. buying is an option.
For your "explosive" example that means: MA100 was retested and price closes above it; so the bias is up and it is a valid buy trade. That principle can be apllied to all MAs; no crossover needed.
Just my opinion, of course.
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